The Remarkable Leadership Podcast

What does it mean to build a workplace culture that people want to join? In this episode, Kevin talks with Jennifer Moss about this important leadership question. They discuss the societal shift in how we view work, the psychological idea of mortality salience, and how these concepts are influencing employee expectations today. Jennifer also shares the basic elements of a strong work culture: inspiring hope, creating purpose, and fostering genuine community, whether your team works remotely, in a hybrid setting, or in-person. Additionally, Jennifer challenges the one-size-fits-all approach to office mandates and presents an alternative idea of the workplace as a “third place” where creativity and collaboration can flourish. Listen For 00:00 Introduction and why culture matters more than ever 01:24 About Kevin’s book “Flexible Leadership” 01:49 Introducing guest Jennifer Moss 02:48 The new book: “Why Are We Here?” 03:05 What is a discovery writer? 04:56 Journey from burnout to culture 05:56 Career pivots and “life is short” 07:02 Mortality salience and identity at work 08:06 How the pandemic reframed our view of work 08:40 Everyone has agency in shaping culture 09:50 Managing up and generational empathy 11:18 Foundations of culture: hope, purpose, and community 13:08 Losing joy at work and the great detachment 14:16 Time poverty vs. remote work 15:06 The office as a third place 16:23 Contradictions in return-to-office policies 17:56 Productivity vs. presence and the AI contradiction 19:15 Data-driven leadership and ignoring the data 20:04 The chapter on “Freedom” 21:20 Women opting out and redefining freedom 22:41 Leadership betrayal and lack of trust 24:09 Focusing on goals, not hours 25:15 Supporting employees who finish early 25:38 AI increasing workload 26:32 Leaders need real conversations about AI’s impact 27:02 Culture can change in 20 minutes 27:56 Weekly manager-employee check-ins 28:25 Jennifer’s favorite morning ritual with her daughter 29:53 What Jennifer is reading: The Tell by Amy Griffin 31:07 Where to find Jennifer and her book 31:52 Kevin’s closing challenge: “Now What?” Jennifer's Story: Jennifer Moss is the author of The Burnout Epidemic, which tackles employee burnout and was named one of Thinkers50's "10 Best New Management Books for 2022." Her latest book is WHY ARE WE HERE?: Creating a Work Culture Everyone Wants. She is an international speaker, award-winning journalist and author, workplace culture strategist, and co-founder of the Work Better Institute, a global workforce policy think tank. She is a nationally syndicated radio columnist and writes for Harvard Business Review, Fast Company, and Fortune. Jennifer has been recognized as a Canadian Innovator of the Year and an International Female Entrepreneur of the Year, and is the recipient of a Public Service Award from the Office of President Obama. This Episode is brought to you by... Flexible Leadership is every leader’s guide to greater success in a world of increasing complexity and chaos.  Book Recommendations Why Are We Here?: Creating a Work Culture Everyone Wants by Jennifer Moss  The Tell: A Memoir by Amy Griffin Like this? Creating Courageous Cultures with Karin Hurt and David Dye Solving the Culture Puzzle with Mario Moussa and Derek Newberry The Burnout Epidemic with Jennifer Moss Culture is the Way with Matt Mayberry Join Our Community If you want to view our live podcast episodes, hear about new releases, or chat with others who enjoy this podcast join one of our communities below. Join the Facebook Group Join the LinkedIn Group   Leave a Review If you liked this conversation, we’d be thrilled if you’d let others know by leaving a review on Apple Podcasts. Here’s a quick guide for posting a review. Review on Apple: https://remarkablepodcast.com/itunes    Podcast Better! Sign up with Libsyn and get up to 2 months free! Use promo code: RLP  

Getting buy-in sounds great—but it's not the end goal. It's just the beginning. In this episode, Kevin Eikenberry explains why buy-in alone isn’t enough to drive results and how leaders can bridge the gap between agreement and action. Discover the three leadership actions that move your team from “I’m in” to actual implementation. In this episode, you’ll learn: Why buy-in is a low bar What the real goal of leadership influence should be 3 specific steps leaders can take to drive action 🎯 Remarkable Reminder: “Gaining buy-in to a project or change is a good first step, but not the goal. The goal is action and implementation.” 📅 Join Kevin for a free conversation with Dave Garrison, author of The Buy-In Advantage, at Virtual LeaderCon on September 22: 👉 https://VirtualLeaderCon.com My name is Kevin Eikenberry and I’m here to help you reach your goal as a leader and a human being with Remarkable TV and the Remarkable Leadership Podcast. I am also the Chief Potential Officer of The Kevin Eikenberry Group. We provide speaking, training, consulting, and coaching services to organizations who believe in investing in their most valuable assets – their people. Whether we are leading a training workshop, speaking to a group, facilitating a planning meeting, consulting with a leadership team, helping with team building, writing or developing products, our vision will be clear in everything we do – We want to be Your Leadership Help Button. Learn more about our offerings: ➡️ FREE NEWSLETTERs: Sign up for any of our newsletters: https://kevineikenberry.com/newsletters ➡️ LEADERSHIP WORKSHOPS: Sign up for any of our online workshops to help you become a better leader: https://kevineikenberry.com/store/?product_type=Workshops ➡️ SPEAKING: Learn more about our Speaking opportunities for your next event: https://kevineikenberry.com/how-we-can-help-speaking/  Connect with Kevin Eikenberry on Social Media:  https://kevineikenberry.com https://www.linkedin.com/in/kevineikenberry https://twitter.com/KevinEikenberry https://instagram.com/kevineikenberry https://www.facebook.com/KevinEikenberryFanPage/ About Kevin Eikenberry: Kevin Eikenberry is the Chief Potential Officer of the Kevin Eikenberry Group, a world expert on leadership development, best-selling author, sought-after speaker, popular blogger, husband and dad, a fan of Purdue athletics and antique tractors (especially John Deere’s). About The Remarkable Leadership Podcast: The Remarkable Leadership Podcast with Kevin Eikenberry is dedicated to all things leadership. Twice a week Kevin shares his thoughts about leadership development and ideas to help you lead more confidently and make a bigger difference for those you lead. He also has weekly conversations with leadership experts discussing a wide range of topics including teamwork, organizational culture, facilitating change, personal and organizational development, human potential and more.  

How can leaders navigate the messy middle of management, especially when it comes to delivering difficult news without damaging relationships or morale? In this episode, Kevin talks with Mahesh Guruswamy about the real-world challenges leaders face when communicating unwelcome information, from missed deadlines to ethical violations. Mahesh shares a thoughtful approach to raising the temperature of conversations gradually and when situations call for urgent, high-stakes responses. They also discuss the difference between technical and adaptive feedback, the importance of intentional communication, and the human side of letting team members go. Listen For 00:00 Introduction 02:02 Meet Mahesh Guruswamy 06:03 The Messy Middle of Leadership 06:24 When Should Leaders Deliver Bad News 07:17 Listening to Your Intuition as a Leader 08:06 Raising the Temperature Slowly 10:24 When to Start at a Higher Temperature 12:04 When Urgency or Ethics Demand Immediate Action 13:04 Communicating the Stakes with Your Team 13:46 Writing as a Tool for Delivering Difficult News 14:51 Lessons from Amazon on Written Communication 16:06 Documenting Over Slide Decks for Clarity 17:17 Reviewing Recordings to Improve Communication 18:45 The Power of Leadership Language 21:11 Balancing Policy and Humanity in Difficult Conversations 22:09 Helping Team Members Find Better Fit Elsewhere 22:58 Avoiding Emotional Delivery of Feedback 23:59 Two Types of Feedback Technical and Adaptive 25:42 Giving Feedback to Your Boss 26:56 Should You Be a Manager Key Questions to Ask 28:28 Can You Succeed Without External Validation 28:55 Giving Credit to the Team Not Yourself 30:31 Mahesh’s Personal Interests 32:51 Final Thoughts and Call to Action Mahesh's Story: Mahesh Guruswamy is the author of How to Deliver Bad News and Get Away with It: A Manager's Guide. He is a seasoned product development executive who has been in the software development space for over twenty years and has managed teams of varying sizes for over a decade. He is currently the chief product and technology officer at Kickstarter. Before that, he ran product development teams at Mosaic, Kajabi, and Smartsheet. Mahesh caught the writing bug from his favorite author, Stephen King. He started out writing short stories and eventually discovered that long-form writing was a great medium to share information with product development teams. Mahesh is passionate about mentoring others, especially folks who are interested in becoming a people manager and newer managers who are just getting going. This Episode is brought to you by... Flexible Leadership is every leader’s guide to greater success in a world of increasing complexity and chaos.  Book Recommendations How to Deliver Bad News and Get Away With It: A Manager’s Guide by Mahesh Guruswamy Leadership on the Line: Staying Alive through the Dangers of Leading by Ronald A. Heifetz and Marty Linsky Never Flinch by Stephen King Like this? Communicate Like a Leader with Dianna Booher Leadership, Communication and Credibility with Jack Modzelewski How to Communicate Effectively with Anyone, Anywhere with Raúl Sánchez and Dan Bullock How to Communicate More Effectively and Lead a Better Life with Michael Hoeppner Join Our Community If you want to view our live podcast episodes, hear about new releases, or chat with others who enjoy this podcast join one of our communities below. Join the Facebook Group Join the LinkedIn Group   Leave a Review If you liked this conversation, we’d be thrilled if you’d let others know by leaving a review on Apple Podcasts. Here’s a quick guide for posting a review. Review on Apple: https://remarkablepodcast.com/itunes    Podcast Better! Sign up with Libsyn and get up to 2 months free! Use promo code: RLP  

Are you an expert who’s stopped being curious? In this episode of Remarkable TV, Kevin Eikenberry explores the idea of the curious expert—a rare but powerful combination of knowledge and curiosity. You’ll discover why expertise alone isn’t enough in today’s fast-changing world, and why curiosity is the key to staying relevant, adaptable, and effective as a leader. Kevin shares how to balance what you know with what you still need to learn, and how doing so can help you build trust, grow as a leader, and remain a lifelong learner. 🔑 What you’ll learn in this episode: Why expertise often kills curiosity How curiosity fuels learning and growth Why today’s leaders must be both experts and learners Practical steps to become a “curious expert” 📌 Timestamps: 00:00 – Introduction 00:23 – What is a “curious expert”? 00:49 – Why curiosity fades as expertise grows 01:15 – Why most people stop being curious 01:46 – Why curiosity is essential for learning 02:06 – How expertise helps, but can hold us back 02:34 – Looking backward vs. looking forward 03:01 – Why leaders need both expertise and curiosity 03:28 – How to become a curious expert 03:49 – The more you know, the more you realize you don’t 04:10 – Holding expertise and curiosity in tension 04:39 – The benefits of being a curious expert 05:05 – Learn more through the Remarkable Learning Masterclass 05:32 – Closing and invitation to next week’s episode 👉 Learn more about the Remarkable Learning Masterclass here: https://remarkablemasterclass.com My name is Kevin Eikenberry and I’m here to help you reach your goal as a leader and a human being with Remarkable TV and the Remarkable Leadership Podcast. I am also the Chief Potential Officer of The Kevin Eikenberry Group. We provide speaking, training, consulting, and coaching services to organizations who believe in investing in their most valuable assets – their people. Whether we are leading a training workshop, speaking to a group, facilitating a planning meeting, consulting with a leadership team, helping with team building, writing or developing products, our vision will be clear in everything we do – We want to be Your Leadership Help Button. Learn more about our offerings: ➡️ FREE NEWSLETTERs: Sign up for any of our newsletters: https://kevineikenberry.com/newsletters ➡️ BOOK: Check out my latest book, The Long-Distance Teammate: https://longdistanceteammate.com/ ➡️ LEADERSHIP WORKSHOPS: Sign up for any of our online workshops to help you become a better leader: https://kevineikenberry.com/store/?product_type=Workshops ➡️ SPEAKING: Learn more about our Speaking opportunities for your next event: https://kevineikenberry.com/how-we-can-help-speaking/  Connect with Kevin Eikenberry on Social Media:  https://kevineikenberry.com https://www.linkedin.com/in/kevineikenberry https://twitter.com/KevinEikenberry https://instagram.com/kevineikenberry https://www.facebook.com/KevinEikenberryFanPage/ About Kevin Eikenberry: Kevin Eikenberry is the Chief Potential Officer of the Kevin Eikenberry Group, a world expert on leadership development, best-selling author, sought-after speaker, popular blogger, husband and dad, a fan of Purdue athletics and antique tractors (especially John Deere’s). About The Remarkable Leadership Podcast: The Remarkable Leadership Podcast with Kevin Eikenberry is dedicated to all things leadership. Twice a week Kevin shares his thoughts about leadership development and ideas to help you lead more confidently and make a bigger difference for those you lead. He also has weekly conversations with leadership experts discussing a wide range of topics including teamwork, organizational culture, facilitating change, personal and organizational development, human potential and more.  

Do you realize how much greatness lies within you? In this episode, Kevin talks with Dave Durand about the mindset and virtues necessary for leading others effectively and ethically in today’s complex world. Dave describes the concept of giants, those we lead who have incredible potential, and stresses that leading them involves creating an environment that promotes autonomy, impact, and growth. He shares his four core virtues: prudence, justice, fortitude, and temperance. He clarifies that these are not outdated ideals but timeless strengths that help leaders make better decisions, act fairly, demonstrate courage, and maintain self-control. They also discuss building a strong leadership pipeline, succession planning, and why the goal of any great leader should be to become irrelevant. Listen For 00:00 Introduction and episode overview 01:10 Flexible leadership and guest introduction 03:10 Dave’s journey to leadership 05:01 Defining a giant 06:20 Leadership and influence 09:21 Four virtues as leadership superpowers 12:06 Prudence 13:53 Justice 15:13 Fortitude 17:29 Temperance 19:34 Building a deep bench 24:44 Why are we working overtime 27:44 Optimizing personality for leadership 30:06 What Dave does for fun 31:03 What Dave is reading 32:05 Final thoughts and encouragement Dave's Story: Dave Durand is the author of Leading Giants: A Leader’s Guide to Maximum Influence. He is a 9-figure founder, keynote speaker, bestselling author, award-winning CEO of Leading Giants, and Executive Chairman of Best Version Media. He has over three decades of experience in leadership and entrepreneurship. He has built and sold multiple businesses, which have collectively done over one billion dollars in sales. Dave is also a trainer of over 150,000 individuals, ranging from Fortune 500 executives and CEOs to small business owners and sales representatives. His leadership culture and focus on humility have earned recognition from major organizations, including Glassdoor, Fortune, Great Place to Work, and Top Workplaces USA. This Episode is brought to you by... Flexible Leadership is every leader’s guide to greater success in a world of increasing complexity and chaos.  Book Recommendations Leading Giants: A Leader's Guide to Maximum Influence by Dave Durand Nicomachean Ethics by Aristotle Thinking, Fast and Slow by Daniel Kahneman Like this? Transformational Influence with Walt Rakowich You Have More Influence Than You Think with Vanessa Bohns Join Our Community If you want to view our live podcast episodes, hear about new releases, or chat with others who enjoy this podcast join one of our communities below. Join the Facebook Group Join the LinkedIn Group   Leave a Review If you liked this conversation, we’d be thrilled if you’d let others know by leaving a review on Apple Podcasts. Here’s a quick guide for posting a review. Review on Apple: https://remarkablepodcast.com/itunes   

Are you wearing your learning glasses? 🕶 In this episode of Remarkable TV, Kevin Eikenberry shares how changing your perspective can turn everyday moments—whether frustrating or joyful—into powerful learning opportunities. From handling setbacks to pursuing goals, coaching others, and even enjoying a good book or movie, Kevin explains practical ways to keep your "learning glasses" on and see the world differently. 📌 You’ll discover: What “learning glasses” are and why they matter When to put them on (hint: almost anytime!) How to practice this mindset in just 15 minutes a day The remarkable results you can expect when you start seeing life through a learning lens 💡 Remember: Learning opportunities are all around us—you just have to see them. 👉 Learn more: Take your growth to the next level with the Remarkable Learning Masterclass: https://RemarkableMasterclass.com My name is Kevin Eikenberry and I’m here to help you reach your goal as a leader and a human being with Remarkable TV and the Remarkable Leadership Podcast. I am also the Chief Potential Officer of The Kevin Eikenberry Group. We provide speaking, training, consulting, and coaching services to organizations who believe in investing in their most valuable assets – their people. Whether we are leading a training workshop, speaking to a group, facilitating a planning meeting, consulting with a leadership team, helping with team building, writing or developing products, our vision will be clear in everything we do – We want to be Your Leadership Help Button. Learn more about our offerings: ➡️ FREE NEWSLETTERs: Sign up for any of our newsletters: https://kevineikenberry.com/newsletters ➡️ LEADERSHIP WORKSHOPS: Sign up for any of our online workshops to help you become a better leader: https://kevineikenberry.com/store/?product_type=Workshops ➡️ SPEAKING: Learn more about our Speaking opportunities for your next event: https://kevineikenberry.com/how-we-can-help-speaking/  Connect with Kevin Eikenberry on Social Media:  https://kevineikenberry.com https://www.linkedin.com/in/kevineikenberry https://twitter.com/KevinEikenberry https://instagram.com/kevineikenberry https://www.facebook.com/KevinEikenberryFanPage/ About Kevin Eikenberry: Kevin Eikenberry is the Chief Potential Officer of the Kevin Eikenberry Group, a world expert on leadership development, best-selling author, sought-after speaker, popular blogger, husband and dad, a fan of Purdue athletics and antique tractors (especially John Deere’s). About The Remarkable Leadership Podcast: The Remarkable Leadership Podcast with Kevin Eikenberry is dedicated to all things leadership. Twice a week Kevin shares his thoughts about leadership development and ideas to help you lead more confidently and make a bigger difference for those you lead. He also has weekly conversations with leadership experts discussing a wide range of topics including teamwork, organizational culture, facilitating change, personal and organizational development, human potential and more.

What lessons can leaders draw from championship-winning coaches? Kevin is joined by Chantal Vallée, who discusses her academic research on leadership and coaching success across sports, business, education, and healthcare. She identified four essential elements shared by great leaders: a compelling vision, strong organizational skills, a focus on individual development, and the ability to utilize key leadership traits. Together, Kevin and Chantal explore topics like setting a vision, handling pressure, and trusting the process. Chantal also offers practical tools for leadership, including the Council of Advisors and symbolic team-building exercises. Listen For 00:00 Welcome to the Remarkable Leadership Podcast 00:39 Join Our Live Recordings 01:05 About Flexible Leadership 01:32 Introducing Chantal Vallée 02:48 Chantal’s Journey from Player to Coach 04:14 Why Chantal Wrote Her Book 05:13 Research Behind High-Performance Teams 06:28 Applying Research to Build a Championship Team 07:09 The Four-Part Leadership Framework 08:57 The Power of Vision 09:38 Organizational Skills as a Leadership Pillar 10:37 Investing in Individual Growth 11:12 Leadership Attributes: The Full Spectrum 11:42 Connecting to Flexible Leadership 12:02 Clarifying Organizational Skills 12:54 The Five-Year Vision and Recruiting 14:17 Making the Vision Real Through Staged Goals 16:19 Trusting the Process 17:28 Sacrificing Short-Term Wins for Long-Term Culture 18:29 Teaching Culture Through Strategic Decisions 19:13 Undervalued Leadership Attribute 20:27 The Importance of Lifelong Learning 21:34 Building a Council of Advisors 24:17 Inclusive Decision-Making as a Leader 25:06 Leading After a Crushing Defeat 26:10 Symbolism of the Hill and Letting Go 28:32 Applying Coaching Lessons to Business Leadership 28:52 Coaching Men’s Professional Basketball 30:22 Rapid Organizational Transformation 30:35 What Chantal Does for Fun 31:22 Recommended Book: Breaking the Habit of Being Yourself 32:14 Final Thoughts and Next Steps Chantal's Story: Chantal Vallée is the author of Dare to Win: The Blueprint to Building and Leading High Performance and Championship Teams. She is the Windsor Lancers Women’s Basketball Coach and transformed a last-place team into five-time national champions. She was also the first woman worldwide to coach and manage a men’s professional team (Hamilton Honey Badgers), guiding them to the finals. Chantal Vallée lives in Windsor, ON. This Episode is brought to you by... Flexible Leadership is every leader’s guide to greater success in a world of increasing complexity and chaos.  Book Recommendations Dare to Win: The Blueprint to Building and Leading High Performance and Championship Teams by Chantal Vallée and Dr. Gordon Bloom  Breaking The Habit of Being Yourself: How to Lose Your Mind and Create a New One by Dr. Joe Dispenza Like this? Winning! with Gary Brackett What Makes Teams Great with Sam Walker How Great Leaders Succeed Through Preparation with Matthew Mitchell Join Our Community If you want to view our live podcast episodes, hear about new releases, or chat with others who enjoy this podcast join one of our communities below. Join the Facebook Group Join the LinkedIn Group   Leave a Review If you liked this conversation, we’d be thrilled if you’d let others know by leaving a review on Apple Podcasts. Here’s a quick guide for posting a review. Review on Apple: https://remarkablepodcast.com/itunes    Podcast Better! Sign up with Libsyn and get up to 2 months free! Use promo code: RLP    

Do you believe in your ability to learn? Your mindset may be the biggest factor holding you back from becoming the learner—and leader—you were meant to be. In this episode of Remarkable TV, Kevin Eikenberry explores how your self-perception as a learner directly impacts your growth. He shares practical strategies to shift your thinking, revisit past successes, and build belief in your ability to master new skills. 📌 In this episode, you’ll learn: - Why believing you can learn is more important than you think - How school experience can mislead our self-perception - How to tap into past learning wins for future growth - Why persistence is a key part of learning mastery My name is Kevin Eikenberry and I’m here to help you reach your goal as a leader and a human being with Remarkable TV and the Remarkable Leadership Podcast. I am also the Chief Potential Officer of The Kevin Eikenberry Group. We provide speaking, training, consulting, and coaching services to organizations who believe in investing in their most valuable assets – their people. Whether we are leading a training workshop, speaking to a group, facilitating a planning meeting, consulting with a leadership team, helping with team building, writing or developing products, our vision will be clear in everything we do – We want to be Your Leadership Help Button. Learn more about our offerings: ➡️ FREE NEWSLETTERs: Sign up for any of our newsletters: https://kevineikenberry.com/newsletters ➡️ LEADERSHIP WORKSHOPS: Sign up for any of our online workshops to help you become a better leader: https://kevineikenberry.com/store/?product_type=Workshops ➡️ SPEAKING: Learn more about our Speaking opportunities for your next event: https://kevineikenberry.com/how-we-can-help-speaking/  Connect with Kevin Eikenberry on Social Media:  https://kevineikenberry.com https://www.linkedin.com/in/kevineikenberry https://twitter.com/KevinEikenberry https://instagram.com/kevineikenberry https://www.facebook.com/KevinEikenberryFanPage/ About Kevin Eikenberry: Kevin Eikenberry is the Chief Potential Officer of the Kevin Eikenberry Group, a world expert on leadership development, best-selling author, sought-after speaker, popular blogger, husband and dad, a fan of Purdue athletics and antique tractors (especially John Deere’s). About The Remarkable Leadership Podcast: The Remarkable Leadership Podcast with Kevin Eikenberry is dedicated to all things leadership. Twice a week Kevin shares his thoughts about leadership development and ideas to help you lead more confidently and make a bigger difference for those you lead. He also has weekly conversations with leadership experts discussing a wide range of topics including teamwork, organizational culture, facilitating change, personal and organizational development, human potential and more.   Join Our Community If you want to view our live podcast episodes, hear about new releases, or chat with others who enjoy this podcast join one of our communities below. Join the Facebook Group Join the LinkedIn Group   Leave a Review If you liked this conversation, we’d be thrilled if you’d let others know by leaving a review on Apple Podcasts. Here’s a quick guide for posting a review. Review on Apple: https://remarkablepodcast.com/itunes    Podcast Better! Sign up with Libsyn and get up to 2 months free! Use promo code: RLP  

What are some practical ways to make an impact as a leader? In this episode, Kevin welcomes Margaret Moore and Jeffrey Hull to discuss how leaders can close the gap between science and real-world application. Margaret and Jeffrey translated hundreds of leadership studies into nine capacities. These are grouped into three levels: self, relationships with others, and the larger organizational and societal impact. They share what it means to lead intentionally, develop agility and authenticity, and build psychologically safe environments. They also talk about concepts like the "quiet ego," balancing compassion and strategy, and why conscious leadership underpins all other capacities. Listen For 0:00 Introduction and Framing the Conversation 1:16 About the Podcast and Live Opportunities 1:48 Kevin Introduces His Book Flexible Leadership 2:15 Guest Introductions Margaret Moore and Jeffrey Hull 3:14 Why the Word “Impact” 5:26 How the Book Came to Be 8:09 Researching the Research 13:28 Three Segments of Leadership Capacities 17:32 The 3 Self Focused Capacities 19:39 The 3 Team or Other Focused Capacities 23:39 The 3 Organization Focused Capacities 27:48 Most Misunderstood Capacities 30:12 The Concept of the Quiet Ego 32:42 Book Takeaways and Closing Reflections 35:03 What They’re Reading 37:04 Where to Learn More 38:24 Kevin’s Final Challenge Now What Their Story: Jeffrey Hull, PhD, and Margaret Moore, MBA are the authors of The Science of Leadership: Nine Ways to Expand Your Impact. Jeffery has focused on leadership for over 30 years, as an HR leader with multiple corporations, cofounder of a leadership development consultancy, nonprofit executive director, and coach to leaders across the globe. He brings years of translating science into leadership as a consultant, psychologist, and teacher at New York University and Harvard Medical School. In writing this book, Jeff is excited to see his chosen professions—leadership and coaching—getting the scientific attention and application they deserve. Margaret blends leadership, coaching, and science, including thirty years in C-suite roles, co-leading four successful start-ups in biotechnology and coaching, and two decades of professional coaching and coach training. For 25 years, she has been a prolific translator of science into coaching, training, and leadership practice. Margaret's vision for this book is to help bring scientists, leaders, and coaches together to foster leadership excellence and support everyday leaders far and wide. https://www.scienceofleadership.com/ https://www.linkedin.com/in/jeffreywhull/ https://www.linkedin.com/in/coachmeg/ This Episode is brought to you by... Flexible Leadership is every leader’s guide to greater success in a world of increasing complexity and chaos.  Book Recommendations The Science of Leadership: Nine Ways to Expand Your Impact by Jeffrey Hull and Margaret Moore  The Transformative Self: Personal Growth, Narrative Identity, and the Good Life (Explorations in Narrative Psychology) by Jack J. Bauer  The Trauma of Everyday Life by Mark Epstein M.D Thoughts Without A Thinker: Psychotherapy from a Buddhist Perspective by Mark Epstein Rise Above: Overcome a Victim Mindset, Empower Yourself, and Realize Your Full Potential by Scott Barry Kaufman PhD James by Percival Everett Like this? Cracking the Leadership Code with Alain Hunkins Connecting with Others Through Listening with Ximena Vengoechea Join Our Community If you want to view our live podcast episodes, hear about new releases, or chat with others who enjoy this podcast join one of our communities below. Join the Facebook Group Join the LinkedIn Group   Leave a Review If you liked this conversation, we’d be thrilled if you’d let others know by leaving a review on Apple Podcasts. Here’s a quick guide for posting a review. Review on Apple: https://remarkablepodcast.com/itunes    Podcast Better! Sign up with Libsyn and get up to 2 months free! Use promo code: RLP  

What if the future of work isn't just about where we work, but how we think about work itself? In this episode, Kevin is joined by Steve Cadigan to explore the shifts reshaping our workplaces, what Steve calls a “work quake.” Steve shares insights on how leaders and employees can adapt to a rapidly changing world of work. They discuss why lifelong learning and "learning agility" are no longer optional, and how our ability to learn quickly is becoming more valuable than what we already know. Steve also challenges leaders to rethink traditional talent strategies, including embracing higher turnover, building organizational capacity more rapidly, and treating employees as part of a lifelong talent ecosystem. Listen For 00:00 Introduction to the episode topic – “Work Quake” 00:30 Importance of preparing for the future of work 01:00 How to join live and engage with future podcast episodes 01:36 Kevin’s book mention – "The Long-Distance Leader" 02:00 Introduction of guest Steve Cadigan 02:23 Steve’s background and experience 03:16 Steve joins the conversation 03:36 Steve’s unconventional career journey 04:57 Discovering a passion for recruiting 05:45 Learning through working in small and large organizations 06:49 Why Steve wrote "Workquake" 08:11 Adjusting the book for the impact of COVID 09:06 Kevin on how the book stayed relevant since 2022 09:30 Employee vs. employer vs. leader mindsets 09:57 The importance of learning agility 10:47 AI as an opportunity for human differentiation 11:53 Defining learning agility 13:16 The organizational challenge of fostering agility 14:17 Spotify’s experiment with internal mobility 14:49 Delegation and building organizational capacity 15:06 How the world of work radically changed in 2020 16:08 What employers must consider now 16:43 The remote vs. in-person debate 17:16 “Yes, and…” hybrid work models 18:16 Pilot vs. policy mindset 19:45 Aligning work strategy with actual results 20:04 Rethinking AI's role and use 21:17 The limits of AI for customer experience 22:01 The power of asking better questions 23:06 Rethinking talent strategy: 7 models 23:27 Steve’s ecosystem approach to talent 24:04 Designing for shorter tenures 25:03 Speeding up onboarding and retention through new models 26:15 The “illegal after 3 years” strategy exercise 26:58 What Steve would add to the book today 27:29 The rise of hybrid experimentation 28:08 The benefits of remote/hybrid work 29:04 Zoom meetings and inclusive communication 29:24 Final reflections on hybrid as an opportunity 29:45 Any final takeaways from Steve? 30:25 Organizations must become business schools 31:03 Training and internal learning over hiring externally 31:22 Kevin’s rapid fire closing questions 31:44 Steve’s personal interests – tennis, coaching, bird watching 32:26 Books and content Steve is consuming 33:04 Being a student of AI – trusted sources 34:39 Where to find Steve online 35:18 Kevin’s closing thought: Take action now 36:26 Outro and invitation to return next week Steve's Story: Steve Cadigan is the author of Workquake: Embracing the Aftershocks of COVID-19 to Create a Better Model of Working. He is a top talent strategist and leadership expert with 30+ years of experience. He famously led LinkedIn’s early hyper-growth phase as its first CHRO, building its world-class company culture from scratch and scaling the organization from 400 to 4,000 employees in 3.5 years. As one of the most provocative global thought leaders on the future of work, Steve is hired not only by F500 companies but by entire countries to help them navigate the talent landscape. His clientele spans from Google, X, Slack, BBC, and Inel, to the City of Lisbon, which hired him to develop the startup incubator Unicorn Factory. He has also written for Forbes and Inc., will soon be writing for Business Insider, and frequently appears on Bloomberg and CNBC to talk about the evolving nature of work, talent management, the Big Resignation, and successful leadership. This Episode is brought to you by... Flexible Leadership is every leader’s guide to greater success in a world of increasing complexity and chaos.  Book Recommendations Workquake: Embracing the Aftershocks of COVID-19 to Create a Better Model of Working by Steve Cadigan The God of the Woods: A Novel by Liz Moore Like this? How to Navigate the Future with Margaret Heffernan How the Future Works with Brian Elliott The Forces Reshaping the Workplace with Phil Simon Leave a Review If you liked this conversation, we’d be thrilled if you’d let others know by leaving a review on Apple Podcasts. Here’s a quick guide for posting a review. Review on Apple: https://remarkablepodcast.com/itunes    Join Our Community If you want to view our live podcast episodes, hear about new releases, or chat with others who enjoy this podcast join one of our communities below. Join the Facebook Group Join the LinkedIn Group