
Curious Minds at Work
Want to get better at work? At managing others? Managing yourself? Gayle Allen interviews experts who take your performance to the next level. Each episode features a book with insights to help you achieve your goals.
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Apr 20, 2025 • 47min
CM 290: Sabina Nawaz On Becoming The Manager You Want To Be
As you move up in leadership roles, you gain more power. Initially, you may take it in stride, thinking it’s something you earned and something you’d never let get in the way of being the manager you want to be.
But as the pressure to perform grows, the gap in power between you and your team creates blind spots that can erode these relationships.
Former Microsoft executive and Fortune 500 coach, Sabina Nawaz, experienced these challenges in her own career and, today, she coaches executives working through them. It’s why she wrote the book, You’re the Boss: Become the Manager You Want to Be (and Others Need). And in this conversation, she shares tools to help leaders manage their blind spots.
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Apr 6, 2025 • 53min
CM 289: Melody Wilding on How to Manage Up for Career Success
Managing up is crucial for your success. It’s about knowing your career goals and aligning them with your manager’s needs and priorities. Yet it’s a skill we’re rarely taught and one we rarely see done well.
For Melody Wilding, this gap in how to manage her career became clear when it caused her to lose her job. It’s what made her want to write her latest book, Managing Up: How to Get What You Need from the People in Charge.
In this conversation we talk about how to get aligned with your manager on what’s most important to them in ways that also help you, how to engage in effective networking, and how to promote yourself in the workplace.
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Skip-Level Meeting Success: How to Connect with Your Boss’s Boss
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Mar 23, 2025 • 48min
CM 288: Charles Feltman on a New Understanding of Trust
In this insightful discussion, Charles Feltman, a leadership coach and author of "The Thin Book of Trust," unpacks trust as a complex, four-dimensional construct rather than a simple yes or no. He highlights how vulnerability intertwines with trust and outlines a framework of care, sincerity, reliability, and competence essential for fostering team dynamics. Feltman also dives into the neuroscience behind trust, emphasizing the importance of self-trust and effective communication in building strong workplace relationships.

Mar 9, 2025 • 46min
CM 287: Andrew Brodsky on the Secrets of Successful Virtual Communication
We’re all virtual communicators. Even if we don’t work remotely, we’re texting, using social media, and making phone calls. But the question is, are we good at it? Do we know the best practices that can set us apart?
Andrew Brodsky can teach us. He’s a management professor and virtual communication expert. In this episode, we discuss his book, Ping: The Secrets of Successful Virtual Communication. We talk about ways to build trust, increase likability, and manage digital conflicts. He shares insights we can immediately put into action.
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The Rules for Making a Good Impression on Zoom and Emails
No, Remote Employees Aren’t Becoming Less Engaged
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Feb 23, 2025 • 48min
CM 286: Chris Lipp on Stepping into Your Personal Power
In this engaging discussion, Chris Lipp, the author of "The Science of Personal Power," shares his insights on finding true inner strength. He emphasizes that personal power stems from self-belief and responsibility, rather than external titles or wealth. Listeners will learn how curiosity fuels personal empowerment and leadership, and how to navigate challenging social interactions. Chris also offers practical strategies for building confidence in high-stakes situations, all aiming to create a more fulfilling life anchored in internal rather than external validation.

Feb 9, 2025 • 54min
CM 285: Adam Galinsky Shares What Great Leaders Do
Adam Galinsky is a social psychologist and the Paul Calello Professor of Leadership and Ethics at Columbia Business School. He believes leaders are made, not born, and he’s spent decades proving it.
In this interview, we talk about his findings and how they apply to today’s leaders. We also discuss his latest book, Inspire: The Universal Path for Leading Yourself and Others. In it, he shares three characteristics people repeatedly bring up when describing truly great leaders: they act as visionaries, exemplars, and mentors.
Adam’s written an insightful guide for current and aspiring leaders looking to take their craft to the next level.
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Interview with leadership expert Frances Frei
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Jan 26, 2025 • 1h 5min
CM 284: Alison Wood Brooks on the Science of Conversation
Conversations play a big role in our personal and professional lives. It’d be hard to build or maintain a relationship without them.
That’s why Alison Wood Brooks, Harvard Business School Professor and conversation expert, has written the book, Talk: The Science of Conversation and the Art of Being Ourselves. She’s found that if we improve our conversations, even a little, the results can be game changing.
In this interview, we talk about the framework she’s developed to help us do that. We also discuss how to improve our one-on-one and group conversations. Finally, we learn effective ways to manage difficult conversations, including apologies.
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Interview with Jeff Wetzler on Deepening Connections
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Jan 12, 2025 • 54min
CM 283: Sandra Matz on Protecting Our Privacy Online
With few exceptions, we have digital footprints. And each time we scroll social media, run a Google search, or use a smartphone to navigate, we’re adding data to that footprint. While we gain a lot from our ability to do all these things, we also feed companies the data they need to target us.
Sandra Matz is a computational social scientist and professor at Columbia Business School. Over the course of her career, she’s consulted with companies eager to profit from our data. In recent years, she’s intentionally shifted her consulting work in support of organizations that want to protect consumer data.
In this interview, I talk to Matz about her book, Mindmasters: The Data-Driven Science of Predicting and Changing Human Behavior. We discuss the methods companies use to profile us and how that profiling puts all the power in their hands. We also discuss promising ideas for pushing back, including solutions to empower and unite us.
Matz has written an accessible, highly readable book that anyone with a smartphone needs to read.
Episode Links
Now Isn’t the Time to Give Users Control of Their Data
Divided We Stand
Interview with Eric Johnson on the Science of Decision-Making
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Dec 29, 2024 • 45min
CM 282: Cassie Holmes on Happiness, Meaning, and Fulfillment – Rebroadcast
We go to the dentist, get our eyes checked, and get our cars inspected. These regularly scheduled health and safety audits let us know how we’re doing.
But we rarely audit how we spend our time.
Sure, most of us have a calendar. Yet few of us study how these calendar events impact our happiness. We rarely track the connection between what we spend our time doing and how well we’re flourishing.
As a result, we can find ourselves feeling unhappy, frustrated, and what scientists call “time poor.”
Researchers like Cassie Holmes want to change that. They’ve learned there’s a strong connection between how we spend our time and how happy we feel. In her book, Happier Hour: How to Beat Distraction, Expand Your Time, and Focus on What Matters Most, she shares ways we can optimize our calendars for happiness, including ways to avoid distraction, extend joy, create a meaningful schedule, and avoid regret.
Holmes’ tips on time tracking and time auditing are simple and powerful. As the year draws to a close, this may be just the book you’re looking for as we head into a new year.
Episode Links
Having Too Little or Too Much Time is Linked to Lower Subjective Well-being
Our Flawed Pursuit of Happiness – and How to Get It Right
A Valuable Lesson for a Happier Life (video)
Trust by Hernan Diaz
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Dec 15, 2024 • 51min
CM 281: Alison Fragale on Women and Success
Alison Fragale, a psychology professor and author of "Likeable Badass," delves into the intersection of gender and workplace success. She discusses the critical role of status over mere power for women seeking advancement. Alison offers practical advice on crafting personal narratives and the art of self-promotion. She highlights the importance of strategic volunteering and diverse mentorship in boosting credibility. Listeners are encouraged to embrace authenticity and proactive relationship-building to navigate the complexities of professional environments.
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