

Night Owls
John Ellis and Joe Klein
Joe Klein and John Ellis on what's happening and what happens next. Joe Klein is the author of seven books and "Sanity Clause," a Substack newsletter. John Ellis is the founder and editor of two Substack newsletters — News Items and Political News Items. The two friends have covered American politics for a combined 95 years.
Episodes
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Feb 9, 2024 • 56min
Episode 9
Discussion on Trump's potential ceiling, Supreme Court decision and border control politics, situation in Mexico and impeachment of Mayorkas, coalition government and Biden's strategy, deep fake audio in the election, Houthis' precision and China's economic challenges, American Fiction movie and cultural appreciation, recent favorite books and cyber hacking threat.

Feb 3, 2024 • 49min
Episode 8
Discussions include ongoing conflicts in the Middle East, American far-right extremism, the political power of Taylor Swift, the situation in Iran and the Middle East, Israeli settlements in Gaza, a possible Ruby Ridge-like situation in Texas, the Oklahoma City bombing, China's real estate industry, and the rise of populism and the disconnect with expertise.

Jan 26, 2024 • 44min
Episode 7
Joe and John discuss New Hampshire primaries, Nikki Haley's political success, deep fake audio, hacking into election systems, negotiations on the border crisis, and journalistic encounters in the latest episode of the podcast.

Jan 17, 2024 • 29min
Episode 6
Joe and John discuss the Iowa results. Joe is unnerved by some of the exit poll results. John expects DeSantis to endorse Trump before South Carolina. If the exit poll data are accurate, Haley has no chance of winning the GOP nomination.

Jan 13, 2024 • 52min
Episode 5
Joe and John talk Iowa and New Hampshire, Bobby Kennedy and Donald Trump, Barack Obama and Joe Biden, immigration and Ecuador, Tiger Woods and Nike. Mostly.

Jan 6, 2024 • 58min
Episode 4
John and Joe discusses Trump's chances ahead of the Iowa caucuses and his appeal of a Colorado Supreme Court decision barring him from the state's ballot. John offers an idea for the new president of Harvard.

Dec 30, 2023 • 1h 5min
Episode 3
A Look Back, A Look Ahead. Joe thinks 2024 most closely resembles 1924, when the Democratic National Convention needed 103 ballots to arrive at a presidential nominee. John thinks a third party is being born and that Bob Gates would make No Labels more than a wild card in the 2024 election.

Dec 30, 2023 • 34min
Episode 2
Joe's extensive experience reporting on the Middle East is evident. John's obsession with the property crisis in China is (briefly) unleashed.

Dec 29, 2023 • 40min
Episode 1
John and Joe (mostly) talk American politics in the inaugural edition of Night Owls.


