

Dirtbag Rich
Blake Boles
How do you build a life of freedom, travel, nature, and meaningful work?Join author Blake Boles (blakeboles.com) as he dives deep with working adults who have managed to strike that elusive balance of time, money, and purpose—without giving up on their wildest dreams.These vulnerable and provocative conversations reveal how everyday people create lives filled with wilderness adventure, creative expression, frequent exploration, and financial stability—no trust fund required.Each guest shares their unique flavor of "dirtbag rich": a way of living that prioritizes time wealth, personal relationships, and transformative experiences over luxury, comfort, and excess security.("Dirtbag" is a badge of honor in climbing and hiking communities, describing someone so devoted to their passion that they trade conventional success for the chance to do what they love, full-time.)Visit dirtbagrich.com for full transcripts and updates on Blake's forthcoming book, Dirtbag Rich: Low Income, High Freedom, Deep Purpose.
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Oct 19, 2026 • 9min
Final Call for Guests + Why Dirtbag Rich Matters
In this brief update, Blake makes a final call for podcast guests, discusses the financial stress he witnessed during six months of cycling in North America, shares some reader feedback, and invites you to read and review Dirtbag Rich (the book).Suggest a podcast guestReview Dirtbag Rich on AmazonReview Dirtbag Rich on GoodreadsBuy the book: Amazon / Audible / BookshopI Rode a Bicycle for Six Months and All I Got Was Profound Freedom

Oct 4, 2026 • 59min
Mila La Haye: climber, dancer, traveler, guide
Mila La Haye is a mountain guide-in-training, climber, dancer, and lifelong dirtbag. She shares stories of hammock living, squats, circus, vanlife, and a nearly zero-dollar bicycle journey across Europe. They explore seasonal work, community-powered adventure, financial privilege, mining’s environmental tensions, and her path toward international mountain-guide certification.

Sep 13, 2026 • 59min
Daniel Greenberg: nomadic community builder
Daniel Greenberg is a serial social entrepreneur and lifelong nomad who has spent decades in intentional communities. He explores communes, cohousing, and ecovillages, plus the everyday friction of shared living. He shares how relationships, house-sitting, and resource-sharing support a rich life on less than $24,000 a year, why he resists long-term planning, and how communities can become laboratories for a more connected future.

Aug 30, 2026 • 1h 3min
Tim Voors: long-distance hiker, writer, advertiser
Tim Voors is a 53-year-old Dutch writer, artist, former advertising executive, father of three, and long-distance hiker who discovered a sense of belonging among a worldwide community of “happy misfits.” (timvoors.nl/@timvoors)After 20 years of working with brands like Heineken, Booking.com, and Budweiser, Tim began thru-hiking in his forties, searching for the fear, humility, and adrenaline that corporate success could no longer provide. His adventures have since taken him across the Pacific Crest Trail, Continental Divide Trail, Te Araroa in New Zealand, multiple Caminos, and Japan’s 1,200-year-old 88 Temples pilgrimage, where he slept on cardboard in bus stops alongside elderly Japanese hikers.We get into Tim’s 10-year experiment to build income streams that would allow him to earn money while preserving the freedom necessary to frequently take long hikes. The result is a patchwork of books, speaking, art, clothing, workshops, and two Airbnb units that satisfies both his financial needs and his human need to feel useful.Tim also describes the joys of teaching painting and singing from home while wearing Crocs and Hawaiian shirts, makes the case for doing many things instead of becoming a specialist, and explains why he now feels more like a pilgrim than a backpacker.Full transcript: dirtbagrich.com/tim

Jul 19, 2026 • 53min
Blake Boles: live at Maria's Bookshop in Durango, Colorado
In this live talk, delivered at Maria’s Bookshop in Durango, Colorado on May 19th, 2026, Blake introduces the mountain-town question that has long obsessed him: How do you build a life with enough time, money, and purpose to fully enjoy the outdoors while your body still works?Blake shares his own path from suburban California kid to outdoor educator, unschooling travel entrepreneur, and writer—and explains how he gradually built a lifestyle where he works relatively little, spends lots of time in nature and community, and measures wealth less by money than by freedom, meaningful work, relationships, and unforgettable experiences. He also explains why both classic dirtbagging and the standard American dream eventually lead to burnout, and why the people most drawn to this path tend to be “moderately privileged and highly idealistic.”Throughout the talk, Blake shares stories from his many Dirtbag Rich interview subjects, all of whom have found radically different ways to balance work, adventure, security, and freedom. He also discusses modern economic pressures, “greedy jobs,” social comparison, and why outdoor dreams are often difficult to postpone until retirement.At the end, Blake takes three audience questions: one about balancing personal freedom with service to others, another about the guilt and social tradeoffs of living cheaply and unconventionally, and a final question about overcoming the fear of leaving a stable full-time job to pursue a more dirtbag rich life.

Jul 5, 2026 • 60min
Diana Proemm: ski bum, adaptive sports instructor, expat
Diana Proemm is a 54-year-old ski bum, adaptive sports professional, dual US-German citizen, and lifelong wanderer who has spent three decades saying yes to unlikely opportunities. (dianaproemm.com) Diana describes leaving Ohio in the mid-1990s, bouncing between ski towns, remote lodges, and outdoor jobs, and building a life through curiosity, persistence, and conversations with strangers. From working in Alaska’s grizzly bear country to hitchhiking through Chile, volunteering on organic farms in New Zealand, and repeatedly selling nearly everything she owns, Diana’s story never really settles down.Along the way, she became a certified recreation therapist and adaptive sports director, helping people with disabilities access the outdoors while slowly piecing together enough financial stability to keep chasing freedom. We discuss seasonal work, Workaway gigs, online income, living cheaply abroad, why she believes many women underestimate what they're capable of, and the social dynamics of working with wealthy clients at the Yellowstone Club.Now living in the Austrian Alps, Diana reflects on getting laid off, starting over in a new country, and maintaining faith that the next opportunity will appear when she needs it. At an age when many people are planning retirement, Diana doesn't know where she'll be next year—but that's never stopped her before.

Jun 21, 2026 • 53min
Madeline Hryse: traveler, climber, cyclist, fashion designer
Madeline Hryse is a 28-year-old traveler, climber, and cyclist who spent four years moving overland across Latin America and Asia—sometimes alone, sometimes with friends and strangers she met along the way—before cycling 14,000 kilometers from China to Sweden. (@very__odd)Madeline grew up in a family that treated adventure as a normal part of life, but her father was the biggest influence. A mountaineer, bicycle tinkerer, and dirtbag before dirtbagging had a name, he spent his youth hitchhiking to the Rockies and disappearing into the mountains for weeks at a time. Although he died when Madeline was sixteen, she reflects on how much of her own wandering life feels connected to his example.After studying fashion merchandising and selling women’s shoes at Nordstrom, Madeline escaped on what was supposed to be a six-month trip through Central America during the pandemic. Instead, she spent the next four years traveling. She taught English in South Korea, saved $10,000 through extreme frugality, trekked through Nepal, climbed her way across India and Sri Lanka, and continued through Pakistan and Southeast Asia while stretching her savings far beyond what most people would think possible.Along the way, Madeline became increasingly drawn to overland travel and the freedom of moving through places slowly. Rather than chasing famous sights, she sought out climbing communities, stayed with locals, camped whenever possible, and built friendships that carried her across continents. She explains why having a purpose while traveling made her happier than following the standard backpacker trail and how she often spent less than $500 per month while on the road.Eventually, a fascination with maps, Central Asia, and the Silk Road inspired her biggest adventure yet: a year-long bicycle journey from China through Kazakhstan, Kyrgyzstan, Tajikistan, Uzbekistan, the Caucasus, Turkey, and Europe. We discuss the realities of long-distance bike travel, the experienced Austrian cyclist who helped shape her approach to the road, and why she gradually became more interested in lingering somewhere beautiful than covering huge distances each day.We also talk about returning home after years abroad, resisting the pressure to pursue graduate school and a conventional career, the modest family support that helped make her travels possible, and her growing desire to spend more time with family and build deeper relationships. Madeline is currently preparing to ride the Continental Divide before relocating to Spain, where she’ll attempt to balance adventure with something that has become increasingly important to her: putting down roots.Full transcript: dirtbagrich.com/madeline

May 31, 2026 • 1h 4min
Blake Boles and Ryan Jordan discuss Dirtbag Rich
In this wide-ranging conversation, Ryan Jordan of BackpackingLight.com interviews Blake about Dirtbag Rich. Topics include:The historical meaning of “dirtbag” in climbing, thru-hiking, and outdoor cultureHow dirtbag culture has traditionally balanced freedom, poverty, adventure, and insecurityThe risks and trade-offs of choosing flexibility over conventional career advancementHousing strategies that support a dirtbag-rich lifestyle, including roommates, small homes, van life, travel, and shared livingHow cultural expectations around home ownership, status, and consumption shape lifestyle decisionsWhy relationships, community, and the ability to show up for others may be overlooked forms of wealthThe role of privilege in pursuing a dirtbag rich lifestyleHow to pursue outdoor freedom without romanticizing irresponsibility, poverty, or precarityFind the original episode (including a fairly critical discussion thread) here: https://backpackinglight.com/episode-146-dirtbag-rich-with-blake-boles/This conversation was originally published on May 1st, 2026.

May 17, 2026 • 1h 6min
Eric Darby: off-grid builder, helicopter pilot, grandfather
Eric Darby is a “deeply blue-collar” builder, off-grid tinkerer, helicopter pilot, and grandfather who has spent most of his life avoiding normal jobs.Eric never made much money—his lifetime average income is about $7,500 per year—but he still managed to buy 16 acres in western Colorado and fill it with Earthships, tiny houses, workshops, kinetic sculptures, and other hand-built structures. He describes his pride in being able to weld, wire, plumb, and frame his own buildings, and why waking up with a construction problem to solve feels more meaningful than any paycheck ever could.Although Eric lives an extraordinarily sustainable life—collecting rainwater, generating his own solar power, charging his electric car at home, and building with salvaged materials—he arrived there through thrift and curiosity, not environmental ideology. As he puts it, his connection to nature is often less about hugging trees and more about “cutting down a tree in my way” or trapping the squirrel that burrowed into one of his tire walls.We discuss his stint as a teenage garbage collector, the dirtbag motorcycle years, flying helicopters in Vietnam and Alaska, and the freedom that comes from needing very little money. Eric says his strongest sense of purpose comes from building things for his children and grandchildren, not from trying to set an example for the world—though many young visitors leave his property inspired by what they see.At the heart of Eric’s story is a simple conviction: he would rather be homeless than spend his life in a conventional job fixated on making money. For anyone who suspects there must be another way to live, Eric offers a powerful and deeply practical example.Full transcript: dirtbagrich.com/eric

May 3, 2026 • 59min
Claire Pomykala: cyclist, guide, part-time influencer
Claire Pomykala is a 26-year-old bike tourer and accidental influencer who walked away from a $115,000 tech job because it made her feel physically and mentally unwell—and replaced it with a loose mix of guiding, bikepacking trips, and independent projects. (livingbybike.com / @livingbybike)Claire traces her path into cycling back to a campus bike co-op that offered an unexpected sense of belonging. Soon after graduating college, she skipped the traditional next steps and biked from Atlanta to Baltimore, then spent nearly six months riding solo across Europe. What began as an escape from jobs and expectations turned into a long-term way of life, including later trips across the U.S. and New Zealand.She explains what makes bicycle touring distinct from other forms of travel, why it creates a more immersive and uncomfortable experience, and how her social media following grew at the exact moment she stopped traveling. We talk about her brief time in tech, where she jumped from $15/hour jobs to a six-figure salary despite having little background in the field: a position she describes as largely meaningless and difficult to tolerate, but financially useful, as it allowed her to save money, quit, and return to a more flexible lifestyle.Now, Claire earns money through a combination of leading occasional luxury bike tours for a company, organizing her own smaller (and shockingly affordable) bikepacking trips, and occasional brand partnerships. At the same time, she’s trying to maintain distance from social media, even as it remains her primary source of clients.We also discuss her essay “I’d rather be kind of poor than work most jobs,” the tradeoffs between stability and autonomy, and her preference for time-rich, flexible living over a consistent paycheck, even as she acknowledges the uncertainty that comes with it.Full transcript: dirtbagrich.com/claire


