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Jul 29, 2022 • 1h 29min

What is Potential? Jordan Peterson & Chaos, Molinism v. Open Theism, Arminianism, Calvinism, with Shari Suter & Esther O’Reilly

Is the Path Not Taken visible to God?The narrative of the Garden as it relates to potential. Plan A or Plan B?Does everyone want to be healed? Saved?Looking at Jesus’ work in our lives through the story of Judas.George MacDonald, “Our God is a consuming fire, and His fire is His love.”https://www.amazon.ca/Beautiful-Constraint-Transform-Limitations-Advantages/dp/1118899016 Amazon linkhttps://www.gutenberg.org/ebooks/9057Unspoken Sermons (George MacDonald)Esther O’Reilly’s two talks with Paulhttps://youtu.be/sOT6cP9tEnQhttps://youtu.be/QR_kwzF-9YsShari Suter’s two talks with Paulhttps://youtu.be/NYDJjVbG3mk first conversation with Paulhttps://youtu.be/tfpXAZZq-wI second conversation with PaulKaren’s two talks with Paulhttps://youtu.be/HlMgGkwWUNYhttps://youtu.be/ZC03aNsPHOQ
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Jul 26, 2022 • 55min

John Vervaeke and Michael Levin Dialogos on Causal Structures, Consciousness, Platonic forms, and Placebo

Dr. Michael Levin and Dr. John Vervaeke discuss findings on cognition, consciousness and placebo. Where is the line? Timestamps: 00:00 Introduction 02:30 “How do you define and differentiate cognition, intelligence, consciousness” 05:40 Mike 08:10 Can there be relevance realization at the cellular level? 14:00 The realization of the gradual development from oocyte to adult mind. Amazing plasticity. William James’ definition of intelligence 19:45 John asks about top-down causation rejecting just a bottom up approach. The whole has a causal power not attributable just to the parts. 21:00 JV Identity going all the way down and emergence going all the way up. How to identify the ontology? 22:00 ML Assume LaPlace’s demon could exist as a thought experiment. Tracking the micro states is an observer only, it cannot act. All the states are the same to you. But we want a worldview that helps you do things. A participatory worldview. 25:45 JV: I’ve been making epistemological arguments around the idea that any proper worldview has to give ontological status to scientists making measurements. 27:00 JV introduces neoplatonism, emanation down and emergence up as a way to integrate science and spirituality in an intellectually rigorous way 28:50 ML: Can't talk about Platonic worldview in the biology circles, only in a forum like this, focused on meaning. 30:00 Logic gates come with a truth table. Where does that come from? 30:55 An index into the world of possibilities. Where does the capacity come from for xenobots to form within 48 hours? 33:00 Evidence for fractal levels of cognition, information exchange… But have you ever looked at the placebo effect, which for a pure reductionist is a very hard thing to explain? 35:30 ML’s study on gene regulatory networks and the placebo effect. 38:30 Albert Mason on psycho dermatology 41:45 KW asks a “woo woo” question. Hilarity ensues. 45:00 JV Rigorous scientific research to verify “experience” 49:30 ML Biochemical and bioelectrical signals and how they could eventuate change across layers 52:00 ML Can we train molecular networks to stimulate healing? Awakening from The Meaning Crisis: https://www.youtube.com/playlist?list=PLND1JCRq8Vuh3f0P5qjrSdb5eC1ZfZwWJ 4 P's of Knowing https://www.youtube.com/playlist?list=PLND1JCRq8Vuit-ucfcXN8QDPMc6DXbTHq Michael Levin: https://youtu.be/GVOxAOflRho Dr. Levin's work on limb regeneration: https://youtu.be/N9Oli5MPLbY The Levin Lab at Tufts U: https://ase.tufts.edu/biology/labs/levin/research/newdirections.htm Erik Hoel: a great Substack column in addition to his science. See section "b)" on https://www.erikphoel.com/science.html Albert Mason: http://www7.bbk.ac.uk/hiddenpersuaders/blog/albert-mason-medicine-magic-hypnotism/ https://npsi.us.com/uploads/documents/MasonInterviewMRobinson2011.pdf The Vertical Ascent by Wolfgang SmithDr. Wolfgang Smith, Renowned Physicist, on Vertical Causation, Irreducible Wholeness and Meaning https://youtu.be/8NWHGX53agc
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Jul 19, 2022 • 1h 23min

Dr. Wolfgang Smith, Eminent Physicist and Philosopher, on Vertical Causation, Irreducible Wholeness and Meaning

I had the privilege to speak with Dr. Wolfgang Smith about his solution to the Quantum Enigma and the tripartite structure of the cosmos. Great resource on Dr. Smith's work: https://philos-sophia.org/ Author of Vertical Ascent, Ancient Wisdom and Modern Misconceptions, Cosmos and Transcendence: Breaking through the Barrier of Scientistic Belief , The Quantum Enigma: Finding the Hidden Key, Theistic Evolution: The Teilhardian Heresy, Science and Myth: A Response to Stephen Hawking's The Grand Design and many others And a movie made about his life: The End of Quantum Reality, available on Amazon.Born in Vienna in 1930, Wolfgang Smith graduated from Cornell University at age 18 with degrees in physics, mathematics, and philosophy. In a few short years he took his master’s degree in physics at Purdue University, climbed the Matterhorn, and published the first theoretical solution to the re-entry problem for space flight. Finding himself irreconcilably at odds with the prevailing Zeitgeist, he decided to forego a professional career in the fields of his primary interest — physics and philosophy — in favor of pure mathematics, and after taking his doctorate at Columbia University, he served as professor of mathematics at M.I.T., U.C.L.A., and Oregon State University until his retirement in 1992.And a movie made about his life: The End of Quantum Reality, available on Amazon An earlier discussion with physicist friend Glen on Wolfgang Smith's ideas about vertical causation as well as a bit about Stephen Wolfram. Toy Story as Metaphor for Quantum Measurement Problem: https://youtu.be/dFqGjvocYPw
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Jul 16, 2022 • 45min

God's fidelity, Suffering and Consciousness, Quantum Field Theory with Michael

There is so much information in pain.The Lord says, "I have engraved you on the palms of my hand."John Stott quote paraphrased, In this world of pain and suffering, I could not believe in a God who had not experienced it for Himself.God is Good and is big enough to make good on His promise.Adam Smith paraphrased, Men want not only to be loved but to be lovely.Brene Brown research on shame.John Vervaeke on its reciprocal narrowing versus the reciprocal opening up of love.Videos discussed:Daniel Schmachtenberger and the War on Sensemaking:https://youtu.be/7LqaotiGWjQA Grief Observed read by the Randos: https://youtu.be/4omMwnttbdkDiscussing Suffering with Shari: https://youtu.be/P3GkzOhWZawKaren’s art: https://karenwongart.com
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Jul 13, 2022 • 1h 29min

Paul Vanderklay & John Vervaeke, God's generosity and the Rest of the Story with Mary Kochan

Mary and I discuss the conversation John Vervaeke and Paul Vanderklay had re: Paul’s argument from personhood for the existence of God. In the process, we covered some aspects of quantum mechanics, philosophy, theology and the nature of reality. Regarding God's completeness and the essence of potential and actuality, we also looked at Jordan Peterson's theories about order and chaos, value, and the thread of interest that is ‘our future drawing us forward’. We finish up rejoicing over God's generosity in making us to share in His love and to have fellowship with one another in this cross-shaped universe.Paul and John's conversation: https://youtu.be/65CcfvXXHugPaul's video about Sevilla and Jonathan discussing the metaphysics of quality: https://youtu.be/Z0Y3XYVA7dgKaren’s art: https://karenwongart.comMary Kochan’s YouTube channel: https://www.youtube.com/channel/UC2leFZRD0ZlQDQxpR2Zd8oA/videos
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Jul 11, 2022 • 1h 28min

Dr. Michael Clarage on Levels, Cosmic Triples, Principles and Meaning in Physics, Chemistry and Biology

Karen's guest is Dr Michael Clarage who gained his PhD in physics from Brandeis University, studying the biological and statistical behavior of proteins. We discuss the nature of light, the levels of reality, the triples of physics and the electric universe. Links follow the notes: The path of the photon Holograms Complete 3-D maps Particles and their trajectories. The line of time according to Newtonian Physics Principle v. Imposition of Rules. Gravitation. Electric discharge. Herschel filaments. Galactic medium. Energy can be conveyed electrically. As opposed to the paradigm that life is ONLY chemistry. The principle of circulation. The principle of community. Article by Michael Clarage: https://michaelclarage.substack.com/p/all-possibilities-actualized-or-the . Michael Levin on bioelectric signaling in cells: Introductory video of Michael Levin: https://youtu.be/GVOxAOflRho Dr. Levin's work on limb regeneration: https://youtu.be/N9Oli5MPLbY The Levin Lab at Tufts U: https://ase.tufts.edu/biology/labs/le... Dr. Eric Smith's talk on Earth's Battery: Dr. Eric Smith on New Theories on the Origin of Life 17:20 to 21:00 https://youtu.be/0cwvj0XBKlE Earth's Battery discussion on Karen's channel: https://youtu.be/YB53BXXmWqk
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Jul 9, 2022 • 1h 20min

The Data Compression Lens, Tokens, Propaganda, Information Entropy and Meaning with Michael

Michael and Karen discuss data compression and cybersecurity as a lens to view language, memory, relationship and consciousness, and in the process stumble upon C. S. Lewis, Jordan Peterson's Maps of Meaning, and Owen Barfield.Propaganda 1) as a false dichotomy 2) as a Zip Bomb or a destroyer of worldsThe Mandelbrot Set as a picture of the limits of stability, the border between order and chaos in its infinite complexityWords as containers for meaningOwen Barfield's The History of Words (words have souls)Michael's recent chat with Paul VanderKlay:https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=s9C4VR9CyjM&t=389sKaren's website: https://karenwongart.comKaren's chats with Paul VanderKlay:https://youtu.be/HlMgGkwWUNYhttps://youtu.be/ZC03aNsPHOQ
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Jul 6, 2022 • 1h 29min

Interview with Esther O’Reilly (aka Bethel McGrew): Reality Rules, Boethius, Jordan Peterson and the Heroic Thesis

Homo Sapiens’ unique heroic thesis according to Jordan Peterson: “The nature of experience can be altered for the better by voluntary alteration of action and thought.”Greg Boyd and Open TheismBoethius, The Consolation of PhilosophyMolinism“Reality is that which governs.” Paul VanderKlayYour beliefs are exposed by your behavior. We say one thing and do another, and come up against our own hypocrisy.Mandelbrot sets, Fibonacci series, the approximation of PiKaren’s art: https://karenwongart.com
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Jul 2, 2022 • 1h 11min

Suffering and Meaning in The Princess Bride, “As You Wish”, Jordan Peterson and Anomaly

Interview with Shari SuterRiding the Wave“The upsetting capacity of the anomalous is simultaneously the vital source of interest, meaning and individual strength. Furthermore, the ability to upset ourselves - to undermine and revitalize our own beliefs - is an intrinsic and necessary and “divine” aspect of the human psyche (part of the seminal “Word” itself.) p. 246, Maps of Meaning by Jordan PetersonThe Unspoken Sermons of George MacDonald for download: http://www.gutenberg.org/ebooks/9057“As you wish”, Wesley in The Princess BrideHe serves even if we reject.The anomalies (obstacles, experiences of chaos, sufferings) we face are uniquely fitted to us.“Materiality is a medium of communication.” Paul VanderKlaySeeing the essence of reality communicated through every aspect of the created world.Our most creative and productive posture is riding the wave between the known and the unknown.Shari’s first interview on Paul Vanderklay’s channel:https://youtu.be/NYDJjVbG3mkShari’s second interview on Paul Vanderklay’s channel:https://youtu.be/tfpXAZZq-wIKaren’s first interview on Paul Vanderklay’s channel:https://youtu.be/HlMgGkwWUNYKaren’s second interview on Paul Vanderklay’s channel:https://youtu.be/ZC03aNsPHOQKaren’s paintingshttp://karenwongart.com
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Jun 30, 2022 • 1h 34min

Falling in Love with Computer Science, Contemplating Virtual Reality and the Problem with Richie's Plank Experience

Links follow description: Adam walked away from social media 14 years ago. That may explain at least part of how he got an undergraduate degree in biochemistry as the first step towards dental school, is now a practicing dentist and is simultaneously working on a Master's degree in Computer Information Technology. We had a fascinating conversation about Jordan Peterson, the Biblical lectures, 'what is computation?', the theories of Stephen Wolfram and the implications of virtual reality. "I'm the guy in the game." Richie's plank experience and what that tells us about ourselves and our connection to reality. What behaviors are we modeling? And what is molding us? Adam introduced me to the work of Jaron Lanier who was an early proponent and developer of virtual reality but has now suggested an alternate path forward. Here are links to what we discussed: Ted Talks won't allow linking to the Jaron Lanier talk, so you might want to listen to it for context.The Intuition of Stephen Wolfram, an episode of Scientific Genius https://youtu.be/TrTwwxBB0QE Biblical Series https://www.youtube.com/playlist?list=PL22J3VaeABQD_IZs7y60I3lUrrFTzkpat Love’s Executioner Part 1: https://youtu.be/Q6Ps4fkkdx4 Love’s Executioner Part 2: https://youtu.be/e2orh2NAO2U Lex Fridman Jaron Lanier: https://youtu.be/Fx0G6DHMfXM Lex Fridman Stephen Wolfram: Part 1: https://youtu.be/ez773teNFYA Part 2: https://youtu.be/-t1_ffaFXao Part 3: https://youtu.be/4-SGpEInX_c Michael Clarage: https://youtu.be/DnFvTyG5QZM

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