
The Meaning Code
Mapping the universe through discussions about physics, art, economics, philosophy, and more. The search for meaning through connections from one domain of knowledge to another. Finding the code that connects the substructures of the universe. For video recordings of these podcasts: https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCgp_r6WlBwDSJrP43Mz07GQ Find me on Twitter: https://twitter.com/klwong43 View my art here: https://karenwongartcom
Latest episodes

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Apr 10, 2023 • 1h 23min
Bruce Ecker on Coherence Therapy and Memory Reconsolidation: a Unifying Framework for Psychotherapy
Bruce Ecker, MA, LMFT, Licensed Psychotherapist, joins the Meaning Code to discuss intersections of Coherence Therapy, Memory Reconsolidation and Listening with This Little Corner of the Internet. This episode is also on YouTube.He speaks of the indelibility of sub-cortical emotional conditioning but also the hope that there is a key to unlock, expose and ultimately nullify the emotional learning that lead to problems in later life.Timestamps may follow later, depending on how much time I have. But one great quote from poet, Robert Bly:"Maturity is an increase in the range of conditions that you experience as workable."Link to Bruce's new book, Listening: https://a.co/d/5W1oIoCBruce's organization: https://coherencetherapy.org/contact.htm

Apr 7, 2023 • 1h 33min
Psalm 22 and the Pattern of the Crucifixion
Stephen and Karen read and discuss Psalm 22 in preparation for Easter

Apr 3, 2023 • 1h 23min
Love and the Postmodern Predicament with D. C. Schindler
D. C. Schindler joins Karen and Michael to discuss his book, Love and the Postmodern Predicament. We talk about the centrality of love and beauty, and of the nature of Being and Becoming. D. C. Schindler is professor of metaphysics and anthropology at the John Paul II Institute, Washington, DC. He is the author of eleven books, including Plato's Critique of Impure Reason, Freedom from Reality: The Diabolical Character of Modern Liberty, and many others.

Apr 1, 2023 • 1h 29min
Money and Reality: Exploring Austrian Economics and The Natural Order of Money with Brad and Ira
Brad, a mechanical designer with an interest in measurement, and Ira, a physicist working in fluid mechanics with an interest in Austrian economics, join Karen to discuss Roy Sebag's new book, The Natural Order of Money. This episode is also on Youtube at The Meaning code channel.Along the way, we discuss time, measurement, inflation, economic stability and instability and digital currency v. gold as a standard. Previous videos with these guests: Brad on Measurement, Part 1: https://youtu.be/iT43zHL2Xp8 Part 2: https://youtu.be/qkDWTKNMI2c Ira on Economics: https://youtu.be/B-fviFKFsw4 Ira on Jordan Peterson, Whittaker Chambers and Ludwig von Moses: https://youtu.be/xaGqYV8Ohw0 Readings mentioned: The Natural Order of Money by Roy Sebag Human Action by Ludwig von Moses Road to Serfdom, Friedrich Hayek Reinventing Collapse by Victor Orloff Financial Nihilism, substack by Luke Burgis

Mar 31, 2023 • 1h 37min
Truth v. Lies: Terminology Matters. How should we think about Justice?
Kale Zelden, English teacher and practicing Catholic, joins Karen to discuss Social Justice, its various meanings and the difficulties with clarity of communciation around these ideas. References discussed: Spe Salvi (In Hope We are Saved, Cardinal Ratzinger) Readings on the 1st Vatican Council - Timothy O'Malley George Orwell's essay on Politics and the English Language: https://www.orwellfoundation.com/the-orwell-foundation/orwell/essays-and-other-works/politics-and-the-english-language/

Mar 28, 2023 • 1h 21min
Where is it Stored? Worlds in Collision: Plato, Plotinus, Pirsig and the Personhood of the Creator
Karen and Sevilla discuss the concept that God is personal rather than a force, and look at Jonathan Pageau's definition, including the idea of identity always being one level up. The multiplicity and unity nested all the way up. This leads to looking at Plotinus at one end of the spectrum and current moves in science, bioengineering and morphogenesis at the other. Numbers and numerals Bell curve Logic gates Where are they all stored? God as a communion of love, creating out of the overflow of love, love knitting everything together. Scriptures that mention the storehouse: Isaiah 33:6 He will be the sure foundation for your times, a storehouse of salvation, wisdom, and knowledge. The fear of the LORD is Zion’s treasure. Proverbs 2:7-9 He stores up sound wisdom for the upright; He is a shield to those who walk in integrity, Guarding the paths of justice, And He watches over the way of His godly ones. Then you will discern righteousness, justice, And integrity, and every good path.

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Mar 21, 2023 • 1h 24min
The Mind of the Maker, Part 2: The Greater the Diversity, the More Massive the Unity, but what Do You Mean by Diversity?
Ryan and I continue our conversation about the elements and principles of art, the creative trinity as set forth by Sayers, and the questions that arise concerning faith, science, principles versus rules and what is meant, creatively speaking, by right and wrong. This episode is also on YouTube: https://youtu.be/wHoK6boKLkEQuote from the Mind of the Maker:"That being so, how can we know that the Idea itself has any real existence apart from the Energy? Very strangely, by the fact that the Energy itself is conscious of referring all its acts to an existing and complete whole. In theological terms, the Son does the will of the Father... Quite simply, every choice of an episode, or a word [every stroke of a painting, every choice of a color or a texture] is made to conform to a pattern of the entire work which is revealed by that choice as already existing.This truth, which is difficult to convey in explanation, is quite clear and obvious in experience. It manifests itself plainly enough when the writer [artist] says or thinks: 'That is, or is not, the right phrase' - meaning, that it is a phrase which does or does not correspond to the reality of the Idea."Video mentioned: The Porous Self v. The Buffered Selfhttps://youtu.be/n9AB14m7W_0

Mar 18, 2023 • 1h 21min
Gavin Ashenden on Jordan Peterson's Reaction to #SocialJustice
In this conversation, we are reacting to an article that Gavin wrote in the Catholic Herald about something Jordan Peterson wrote in a tweet response to the Pope, @pontifex on twitter. Here is the article: https://catholicherald.co.uk/jordan-petersons-twitter-spat-with-pope-francis/ A quote from the article: "What had the Pope written to provoke the world’s most popular psychologist to lay down a Twitter challenge? '#socialjustice demands that we fight against the causes of poverty: inequality and the lack of labour, land, and lodging; against those who deny social and labour rights; and against the culture that leads to taking away the dignity of others.' To which Professor Peterson (never short on self-confidence) replied: “There is nothing Christian about #socialjustice. Redemptive salvation is a matter of the individual soul.”Gavin Ashenden, former Chaplain to the Queen of England, a university lecturer in psychology, had his own radio show on the BBC and now blogs at Ashenden.org. He converted from the Anglican Church to becoming a Catholic apologist for the faith. The story of his conversion: https://youtu.be/J-3CxAjbVBM An earlier conversation on ecumenism: https://youtu.be/F3y7gD_2NTI

Mar 14, 2023 • 1h 38min
The Proper Place of the Mystical and the Prescience of Sci Fi Literature for the Present Moment
Video links follow notes: This episode is on YouTube: https://youtu.be/ZqTA2QJIhTAStephen Hurn's background is in software development, and his passion is science fiction as literature and the consideration of truth. There was so much hope in programming during the '90's that technology would free us from menial facts, but... The new atheists fought against the straw man of the god of the gaps but failed at explaining the mechanisms behind the world. Godel - for every rational system (the universe is an example of a rational system), there is an infinitely larger set of true facts that you can ever prove. Art, Music and Literature offer a way forward. Literature of the 20th century: 1984, Brave New World, Dune We need a religious instinct that works against letting AI think for us. Herbert (Dune) understood the power of religion and taboo. Will we also have a Luddite rebellion against technology? Look at Dune to see where an overreaction can lead. The mystical is an important part of the human experience and must be aligned properly, towards Christ. Gnosticism, pride and the sin in the Garden. Right things can be done in the wrong order. You can do anything in life, but you can't do everything in life. Videos mentioned: McGilchrist, Watson and Levin: https://youtu.be/ynHfrfpTH18 Jordan Peterson, Jeff Sandefer on Education: https://youtu.be/FEUjcRWfu3c

Feb 28, 2023 • 1h 43min
Is Emergence "Good"? Is Gnosticism connected to the faith in Emergence?
Discussing Mark's tweet:The difference between 'being is good' and 'emergence is good' cannot be understated. One is actually good, the other is actually just #Gnosticism.Mark talks fast:-) You might want to put it on .75, but thenI talk slow, so maybe not:-)This conversation is also available on YouTube: https://youtu.be/Ohd7jDO-PyMWe look mostly at emergence, how faith in emergence tends to overlap with gnosticism, we look at some of the questions in evolutionary theory.The example of "emergence" we looked at in this video:How Particle Life Arises from Simplicity: https://youtu.be/p4YirERTVF0Mark's YouTube channel, Navigating Patterns: https://www.youtube.com/@NavigatingPatterns