
SmarterMarkets™
SmarterMarkets™ brings you the entrepreneurs, icons, and executives of commodities, capital markets, and technology to rant on the inadequacies of our systems and riff on ideas for how to improve them. Our weekly episodes explore how technology can be leveraged to redesign and improve markets to meet society’s biggest challenges, including climate change and the energy transition.
Latest episodes

Sep 10, 2022 • 32min
Winter is Coming Episode 2 | Daniel Yergin, Vice Chairman, S&P Global
As EU energy crisis warnings worsen and calls for immediate solutions spread across global headlines, host David Greely welcomes energy icon and Vice Chairman of S&P Global, Daniel Yergin, back to SmarterMarkets™ for a timely conversation examining the winter ahead.
Covering everything from his predictions in The New Map: Energy, Climate and the Clash of Nations to S&P’s recent Future of Copper Report — Greely and Yergin pack a half hour with insights on Europe’s energy crisis, it’s impact on our road to decarbonization, and what’s next now that Winter is Coming.

Sep 3, 2022 • 38min
Winter is Coming Episode 1 | Samantha Dart, Head of Natural Gas Research, Goldman Sachs
We kick off our new series, Winter is Coming, with Samantha Dart, Head of Natural Gas Research at Goldman Sachs. SmarterMarkets™ host David Greely sits down with Samantha to discuss the outlook for natural gas and LNG this winter in the face of all that has happened – and is happening – in Europe.

Aug 27, 2022 • 44min
When Markets Break Episode 3 | Arjun Murti, Former Head of Energy Equity Research, Goldman Sachs
To close out our When Markets Break series, SmarterMarkets host David Greely sits down with Arjun Murti, the Former Head of Energy Equity Research at Goldman Sachs and the publisher of Super-Spiked on Substack. David and Arjun discuss the July 2008 spike in WTI crude oil prices to a record high of $147 a barrel and their subsequent collapse.

Aug 20, 2022 • 29min
When Markets Break Episode 2 | David Gornall, Former Chairman, LBMA London Bullion Market Association
This week, SmarterMarkets host David Greely is joined by David Gornall, the former Global Head of Precious Metals Trading at Natixis and Former Chairman of the London Bullion Market Association (LBMA). Together, they discuss the massive dislocation between the gold markets in New York and London in March 2020 during the early days of the COVID-19 lockdown.

Aug 13, 2022 • 44min
When Markets Break Episode 1 | Beau Taylor, Former Global Head of Energy Sales & Trading, J.P. Morgan
In our inaugural episode of When Markets Break, David Greely welcomes Beau Taylor, J.P. Morgan's Former Global Head of Energy Sales & Trading to the SmarterMarkets™ studio to recount his experience in the U.S. Natural Gas market following Hurricane Katrina. Together they explore the risk miscalculations, market conditions, and elements of human nature that led to one of the largest hedge fund collapses on record.
In the episode, Greely and Taylor revisit how a multi-strategy hedge fund transformed into one big bet on winter natural gas prices, why their collapse didn’t lead to wider systematic distress in the financial market, and what learnings we can apply to better manage volatility in today’s LNG markets.

Aug 6, 2022 • 53min
Summer Playlist Episode 6 | Robert Casamento, Global Climate Chair, Edelman
In overlapping crises of climate and trust — how do we work together to effect change?
For the final track of our Summer Playlist, we sit down with Edelman’s Global Climate Chair, Robert Casamento, to explore the role of communication in unlocking necessary climate action.
Insightful for organizational and global leaders alike, Robert and David Greely cover how to use our common goal of 1.5° to align on practical solutions that meet short and long term energy and infrastructure needs.

Jul 30, 2022 • 40min
Summer Playlist Episode 5 | Jack & Will Lundin of the Lundin Group
We’re continuing our search for the minerals required to execute the energy transition. This weekend, we are thrilled to welcome Jack and Will Lundin of the Lundin Group to the SmarterMarkets studio!
In the fifth episode of our Summer Playlist, we’re diving into the Lundin family’s passion for exploration — and how a rising millennial generation of entrepreneurs and adventurers are building into a new commodity cycle and preparing for the great energy and supply chain transformation.
A note from the SmarterMarkets Team:
We recorded this episode with Jack and Will last week, and we would like to take a moment now to remember their father, Lukas Lundin, who died this week following a two-year battle with brain cancer.
Lukas Lundin was a visionary with a passion for the mining industry. He and his brother, Ian, expanded the operations of the Lundin Group of energy and mining companies around the world, employing more than 15,000 people and creating billions of dollars for shareholders. Accomplishments aside, Lukas wanted to be remembered more simply as a company builder who was fun to work with.
We want to extend our sympathies to the Lundin family for their loss, and our gratitude for the friendship, kindness, and generosity that Lukas Lundin offered to members of our Abaxx and SmarterMarkets family. He will be missed, and we would like to dedicate this episode to him.

Jul 23, 2022 • 56min
Summer Playlist Episode 4 | Robert Friedland, Founder & Executive Co-Chairman, Ivanhoe Mines
We're ending the hottest week of the year with a splash of cold water! Join host David Greely for an unforgettable interview with icon of industry, Robert Friedland, examining the commodities, resource and geopolitical requirements for the energy transition.
In under an hour, we tackle the startling projections from S&P's Future of Copper report, the threat of losing touch with where things actually come from, and the staggering infrastructure prerequisites to achieve the renewable energy scale required to green the global economy.

Jul 16, 2022 • 38min
Summer Playlist Episode 3 | Hannah Hauman, Global Head of Carbon Trading, Trafigura
What can we extract from traditional commodity markets to standardize and scale our carbon markets?
On our third installment of the SmarterMarkets Summer Playlist, we catch up with Trafigura’s Global Head of Carbon Trading, Hannah Hauman, diving into the vital role of supply chain managers and trading companies in helping manage risk and ensuring carbon removals projects can achieve scale and meaningful climate impact.
Together, Hannah and David Greely explore the difficulties corporates face in seeking future-proof strategies to achieve their net-zero targets, the role of market mechanisms and price discovery in developing the voluntary carbon markets, and the need for consistent, predictable policy across both compliance and voluntary markets.

Jul 9, 2022 • 49min
Summer Playlist Episode 2 | Michelle Dennedy, CEO, PrivacyCode, Inc.
We are diving right into the deep end this weekend with former SmarterMarkets™ host and PrivacyCode CEO, Michelle Dennedy. We’ll be discussing protecting our privacy in the aftermath of the US Supreme Court overturning Roe vs Wade, building a better global information economy, and what Gen X can teach Gen Z, or vice versa.
In the second installment of our Summer Playlist, Michelle and Dave explore how to build data systems that remain resilient in a time of extreme uncertainty — and the opportunity for self sovereign identity as we navigate increasingly high levels of physical, legal and financial risk.