Next Question with Katie Couric

Abortion: The Body Politic started on the ground, visiting two abortion clinics 15 minutes away from each other in two very different states: Missouri and Illinois. On this last episode, we check back in with someone who works in those two clinics to understand the immediate impact the Supreme Court decision had on their patients. Then we consider, what now? Katie interviews Rep. Jayapal (D-WA) who has been a legislative leader in the fight for reproductive rights to understand what lawmakers can do to protect abortion now and in the future. Finally, we hear from a new generation of activists, actors (like Busy Phlipps), musicians (like MILCK and Amanda Shires), and TikTokers about how they are using their platforms, social media and art to not only normalize abortion but also share information (when that information could be criminalized), and, perhaps, change hearts and mind one person at a time.  More information on this episode’s guests and resources: Planned Parenthood National Advocates for Pregnant Women ReproAction Rep. Pramila Jayapal Paula Ávila-Guillén Gen-Z For Change @OliviaJulianna Busy Philipps MILCK Whole Woman’s Health Action items: How to find, contact, and donate to your local abortion fund Learn about abortion laws in your state How to get abortion pills in any state How to share your abortion story [Also, We Testfy] Support reproductive justice organizations, like Sister Song and Latina Institute for Reproductive Rights Follow all the organizations and people featured in this podcast! Books and more: Pay Up: The Future of Women and Work (and Why It’s Different Than You Think), by Reshma Saujani It’s time for Republican women to speak up for reproductive rights, by Kathryn Kaufman, The Washington Post This Will Only Hurt A Little, by Busy Philipps Amanda Shires demands more artists stand up for abortion rights, Rolling Stone Take It Like A Man, by Amanda Shires We Won’t Go Back, by MILCK, BIIANCO, & Autumn Roe (feat. Ani DiFranco) See omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.

In Part 5 of Abortion: The Body Politic, Katie looks abroad for models of progress — and regress — when it comes to reproductive rights and abortion access. What are the trends and how does the U.S. now compare? We check in with the Center for Reproductive Rights to find out. Perhaps no region has seen more progress than Latin America. Human Rights lawyer and one of the founders of the Green Wave movement, Paula Ávila-Guillén, shares her experiences on the front lines of the decades-long fight for reproductive justice and what Americans can learn from our sisters to the South. We also hear from an activist in Mexico who is helping people across the border access abortion care they can no longer get in the United States. And academic, Lina-Maria Murillo gives us context for the unique relationship the United States and Mexico share when it comes to abortion access. There’s no denying the fact that many of the countries we are highlighting are largely conservative and Catholic. What does the progress these Catholic countries have made say about our own complicated assumptions about religion and abortion. We hear from several leaders of faith from a Jewish Rabbi to a Baptist Reverend and leaders from organizations like, Catholics for Choice and SACRED, about how they have worked reproductive rights and abortion access into their faith practice. More information on this episode’s guests and resources Center for Reproductive Rights Women’s Equality Center Paula Ávila-Guillén Las Libres Lina-Maria Murillo Physicians for Reproductive Health Catholics for Choice Religious Coalition for Reproductive Choice SACRED: A Spiritual Alliance of Communities for Reproductive Dignity Sister Song Books and more: When Abortion Was a Crime, by Leslie J. Reagan A Complicated Choice: Making Space for Grief and Healing in the Pro-Choice Movement, by Reverend Katey Zeh Guests include: Paula Ávila-Guillén, human rights lawyer, Green Wave activist Veronica Cruz, founder of Las Libres Leah Hoctor, senior regional director for Europe at the Center for Reproductive Rights Lina-Maria Murillo, professor at Iowa focusing on reproductive rights along the borderlands Jamie Manson, Catholics for Choice Katey Zeh, Religious Coalition for Reproductive Choice Rabbi Kelly Levy, Congregation Beth Israel, Austin, Texas Kenyetta Chinwe, Sister Song, SACRED See omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.

In Part 4 of Abortion: The Body Politic, Katie examines how abortion is explored and reflected in popular culture and Hollywood. Because whether we realize it or not, the movies we have loved and the TV shows we watch represent the collective imagination of our culture at particular moments in time. And for much of the past 50 years, that collective imagination was riddled with problematic abortion tropes that perpetuates stereotypes about the procedure and the people who seek it out. But the good news is that in the past decade, more showrunners and filmmakers — and even studios — telling more abortion stories and even taking some risks. Katie takes listeners to the front row of a new comedy show about abortion, aptly named, “Oh God A Show About Abortion,” from comedian Alison Leiby. Filmmakers Gillian Robespierre (“Obvious Child,” 2014), Rachel Lee Goldenberg (“Unpregnant,” 2020), and Dawn Porter (“Trapped,” 2016) share the origin stories of their narrative-busting movies and what more Hollywood and creatives need to do in the long fight toward reproductive rights.  More information on this episode’s guests and resources: Abortion Onscreen study Abortion Onscreen Database Advancing New Standards in Reproductive Health We Testify TV Shows, movies and more: Stream Obvious Child on Prime and Hulu Stream Unpregnant on HBO Max Oh God, A Show About Abortion, by Alison Leiby Unpregnant, by Jenni Hendriks and Ted Caplan Stream Trapped on Prime Watch The Racial Politics of Abortion on YouTube Planned Parenthood’s Secret Weapon (Washington Post) See omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.

On Part 3 of Abortion: The Body Politic focuses on Roe and its unraveling. The last living Roe prosecutor, Linda Coffee, shares her recollections of that historic Supreme Court case and how she found out she had won. We learn of  the immediate failings of Roe, especially for Black women, and the birth of the Reproductive Justice movement. Experts trace the politicization of abortion, the belated moral-issue grab by evangelicals,  the violence that hit abortion doctors and clinics in the 1990s, and the anti-abortion strategy that forever altered American politics. We hear first-person experiences of long-time abortion doctors as well as fresh medical students who share why they felt inspired to join the cause. We also hear from two abortion storytellers about their experiences navigating a convoluted system that can be particularly apathetic to the needs of those seeking later abortions. More information on this episode’s guests and resources: Access Reproductive Justice Boulder Abortion Clinic The Bixby Center for Reproductive Health Physicians for Reproductive Health The Doula Project Planned Parenthood Gulf Coast Books and more Roe v. Wade’s secret heroine tells her story [Vanity Fair] Abortion and the Law in America: Roe v. Wade to the Present, by Mary Ziegler Dollars for Life: The Anti-Abortion Movement and the Fall of the Republican Establishment, by Mary Zeilger Reproductive Justice, by Loretta Ross and Rickie Solinger Bad Faith: Race and the Rise of the Religious Right, by Randall Balmer See omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.

In Part 2 of Abortion: The Body Politic, we step into the past, long before Roe, and trace the roots of today’s abortion’s debate to understand  — if abortions have always happened and the majority of Americans have always believed they should be legally accessible — why is abortion such a contentious, even volatile, issue in this country. In this journey, a new narrative of reproductive resistance comes to the surface. Women, particularly Black, brown and indigenous, have always made choices that are best for their bodies, families, and lives — no matter the obstacles men have placed before them. In these stories of resistance we also hear first-hand accounts of surprising allies in underground abortion access, courage in the face of limited reproductive choices, and a relentless push for bodily autonomy. The illegal period before Roe is a mirror to our impending, post-Roe future. It’s vital that we pay attention. More information on this episode’s guests and resources: Guttmacher Institute The Bixby Center for Reproductive Health Grandmothers for Reproductive Rights Religious Coalition for Reproductive Choice Boulder Abortion Clinic Books and more: Reproductive Justice, by Loretta Ross and Rickie Solinger When Abortion Was a Crime: Women, Medicine, and Law in the United States, 1867-1973, by Leslie Reagan The Janes, available to stream now on HBO Max Defenders of the Unborn: The Pro-Life Movement Before Roe V. Wade, by Daniel K. Williams See omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.

In Part 1 of Abortion: The Body Politic, we explore the current state of abortion access. Katie Couric visits two abortion clinics that straddle the Missouri-Illinois border. They are only 15 minutes but — because of Missouri’s state-imposed restrictions — worlds apart. We also find out what types of abortion are available today, how people access them, and what it is like to  get an abortion in today’s charged climate. We hear from abortion fund organizers, doctors in restrictive and progressive states, and people from all over the country, many of whom are already living in a post-Roe world. We also find out what is at stake for the upcoming Supreme Court decision that is expected to reverse the landmark 1973 decision that guaranteed the right to a safe and legal abortion.  More information on this episode’s guests and resources: Organizations: Guttmacher Institute ARC Southeast Physicians for Reproductive Health We Testify Advocates for Youth Books and more: You’re the Only One I’ve Told: The Stories Behind Abortion, by Dr. Meera Shah  Abortion and the Law in America: Roe v. Wade to the Present, by Mary Ziegler Unpacking the Roe draft bombshell with Mary Ziegler - Next Question with Katie Couric The Body is Not an Apology, by Sonya Renee TaylorSee omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.

Forty-nine years ago, the landmark Roe v Wade decision guaranteed women the right to a safe, legal abortion. This June, the Supreme Court is expected to gut that historic ruling, triggering restrictive abortion laws in at least 23 states. While the United States is on the precipice of stepping back this women’s health right, the rest of the world has seen a trend of liberalizing abortion laws over the past 25 years. In this limited, narrative series from Next Question with Katie Couric, we explore the history — and future — of abortion in this country. In this 6-episode series, Katie takes listeners inside abortion clinics, front row at an abortion comedy show, and shares intimate, first-person experiences of people — from the illegal period to now — who have had abortions and the stories of those who have cared for them. There’s never been a more urgent time to understand how we got here and how reproductive rights can apply to everyone.See omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.

Suddenly it feels like everyone is talking about the metaverse, doesn’t it? But what exactly is the metaverse? Wikipedia describes it as “a network of 3D virtual worlds focused on social connection,” but the only real consensus seems to be that it’s going to be, well, huge. Google, Apple, Snapchat, and Microsoft have all made major investments and Facebook founder Mark Zuckerberg even renamed his company, Meta. For this episode of Next Question, Katie decides to find out what all the fuss is about firsthand and takes a trip into the metaverse with Wall Street Journal tech columnist Joanna Stern. See omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.

You probably know Melissa Gilbert best from her time playing Laura Ingalls for nine seasons on the classic NBC television show, “Little House On the Prairie.” She’s done a lot since then – she’s continued to act, tried her hand at directing, served as the president of the Screen Actors Guild, and even briefly ran for Congress. But a dozen or so years ago, she left her native Los Angeles to live with her husband, the actor and director Timothy Busfield, in rural Michigan and eventually ended up settling in a rustic, fixer-upper cottage in the Catskills Mountains. It was a pretty radical lifestyle change for Melissa and it sparked a number of realizations about her old life – and the way she wants to live now. For this episode of Next Question, she sits down with Katie to talk about this new phase of her life, the challenges – and rewards – of growing older, and her new book, “Back to the Prairie.” See omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.

If you’ve been watching TV lately, you’ve probably noticed that Jean Smart is having something of a moment. While she’s been working steadily and building an enviable acting career for more than four decades, her recent one-two punch as washed up Las Vegas comedian Deborah Vance on the HBO Max Series, “Hacks,” and as Kate Winslet’s mother, Helen Fahey, in “Mare of Easttown,” has finally and fully awakened the world to the genius that is Jean. For this episode of “Next Question,” she sits down with Katie to talk about her long career, what it feels like to receive all this dizzying attention at 70 years old, the recent and sudden loss of her husband of more than thirty years - fellow actor, Richard Gilliland - and the upcoming second season of “Hacks.” See omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.