
The National Security Podcast
Expert analysis, insights and opinion on the national security challenges facing Australia and the Indo-Pacific. Hosted on Acast. See acast.com/privacy for more information.
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Feb 6, 2025 • 43min
The power of fiction and storytelling in understanding national security
How can fiction and storytelling effectively engage the public with the complex challenges of national security?How does storytelling bridge gaps in historical narratives and deepen our understanding of contemporary conflicts?How can fiction help project future scenarios and explore potential outcomes? In this episode, Misha Zelinsky and Mick Ryan join David Andrews to explore the intersection of fiction and national security – sharing personal experiences on how storytelling can shape public perceptions, and inspire action in the realm. Misha Zelinsky is an Expert Associate with the ANU National Security College. He is a leading authority on the rise of global authoritarianism, a Fulbright Scholar, economist, lawyer, and author.Major General (Retd) Mick Ryan AM is a Senior Fellow for Military Studies in the Lowy Institute’s International Security Program. He spent 35 years in the Australian Army and had the honour of commanding soldiers at multiple levels.David Andrews is a Senior Policy Advisor at NSC. TRANSCRIPTShow notes: NSC academic programs – find out moreThe Sun Will Rise by Misha ZelinskyWhite Sun War: The Campaign for Taiwan by Mick RyanZero Day (Taiwanese TV show) We'd love to hear from you! Send in your questions, comments, and suggestions to NatSecPod@anu.edu.au. You can tweet us @NSC_ANU and be sure to subscribe so you don’t miss out on future episodes. The National Security Podcast is available on Acast, Apple Podcasts, Spotify and wherever you get your podcasts. Hosted on Acast. See acast.com/privacy for more information.

Dec 19, 2024 • 42min
Think you can identify misinformation online? Research shows you probably can’t
Only three percent of Australian adults were able to demonstrate the ability to verify information online, in a recent study. How can media literacy help inoculate citizens against mis- and disinformation? Why are critical thinking and media skills essential in a thriving democracy? And how can best-practice examples from around the globe and leading domestic research help shape the recently announced National Media Literacy Strategy? In this episode, Tanya Notley and Sora Park join Tim Wilford to discuss Australian media habits, media literacy, and how people can better equip themselves to identify mis/disinformation. Professor Sora Park is a Professor of Communication and a Professorial Research Fellow at the University of Canberra's News and Media Research Centre. Associate Professor Tanya Notley is an Associate Professor at Western Sydney University's Institute for Culture and Society. Tim Wilford is Senior Manager, Policy and Engagement at the ANU National Security College. TRANSCRIPT Show notes: NSC academic programsDigital news report: Australia Adult media literacy in 2024News and young AustraliansTowards a national media literacy strategyOnline misinformation in AustraliaNews media assistance program Media literacy and education in Finland The full list of materials on media literacy can be found here. We'd love to hear from you! Send in your questions, comments, and suggestions to NatSecPod@anu.edu.au. You can tweet us @NSC_ANU and be sure to subscribe so you don’t miss out on future episodes. The National Security Podcast is available on Acast, Apple Podcasts, Spotify and wherever you get your podcasts. Hosted on Acast. See acast.com/privacy for more information.

Dec 12, 2024 • 58min
Pat Conroy on defending Australia and Pacific partnerships
Pat Conroy, the Australian Minister for Defence Industry, discusses modernizing the Australian Defence Force amidst evolving global challenges. He highlights Australia’s commitment to a rules-based order while strengthening ties with Pacific nations. The conversation touches on the impact of sports diplomacy, specifically the introduction of a Papua New Guinean rugby league team in enhancing diplomatic relations. Conroy also underscores the necessity for increased defense investments and cross-partisanship in national security planning for a stable future.

Dec 5, 2024 • 40min
Andrew Hastie on social cohesion, defence, and strategic challenges
As the notion of a single ‘global theatre of struggle’ gains traction, what are the major challenges that Australia currently faces?How has Australia’s defence investment evolved over the years, and is the nation equipped to address today’s pressing challenges?What steps can Australia take to strengthen social cohesion while navigating political compromise and disruptive forces?In this episode, Andrew Hastie joins Rory Medcalf to discuss his formative influences, strategic worldviews, and Australia’s defence challenges. The Hon Andrew Hastie MP is the Shadow Minister for Defence, Shadow Minister for Defence Industry, and Shadow Minister for Defence Personnel. Professor Rory Medcalf AM is Head of the ANU National Security College (NSC). His professional experience spans more than three decades across diplomacy, intelligence analysis, think tanks, journalism and academia. TRANSCRIPTShow notes: NSC academic programs – find out more The Hon Andrew Hastie MP’s speech at Securing our Future What are the most underappreciated threats to Australia’s security? We'd love to hear from you! Send in your questions, comments, and suggestions to NatSecPod@anu.edu.au. You can tweet us @NSC_ANU and be sure to subscribe so you don’t miss out on future episodes. The National Security Podcast is available on Acast, Apple Podcasts, Spotify and wherever you get your podcasts. Hosted on Acast. See acast.com/privacy for more information.

Nov 28, 2024 • 49min
‘I have concepts of a plan’: what to expect from Trump 2.0
How does the United States' presidential transition process work, and how does it compare to the Australian electoral system? How might the election of Donald Trump impact US foreign and security policies? How can Australia best engage with a new Trump administration on critical issues like AUKUS, defence strategy, and tariffs? In this episode, Charles Edel joins Bianca Birdsall to discuss the election of Donald Trump to the US presidency, his proposed cabinet and staff nominees, and the security and foreign policy implications of a new administration for Australia and its region. Dr Charles Edel is a Senior Advisor and inaugural Australia Chair at the Centre for Strategic and International Studies. Bianca Birdsall is a Senior Advisor at the ANU National Security College (NSC). TRANSCRIPTShow notes: Listener survey: The National Security Podcast NSC academic programs – find out more Inflation Reduction Act | U.S. Department of the Treasury We'd love to hear from you! Send in your questions, comments, and suggestions to NatSecPod@anu.edu.au. You can tweet us @NSC_ANU and be sure to subscribe so you don’t miss out on future episodes. The National Security Podcast is available on Acast, Apple Podcasts, Spotify and wherever you get your podcasts. Hosted on Acast. See acast.com/privacy for more information.

Nov 21, 2024 • 58min
Trust and leadership in intelligence and national security: Women in National Security
How does our strategic environment inform leadership in intelligence and national security? How do partnerships assist intel collection in an increasingly complex world? What are the foundations of trust in a leader? This episode is a panel discussion, hosted by Meg Tapia at the 2024 Women in National Security LIVE, features Kerri Hartland, Heather Smith, and Heather Cook. They explore leadership in a complex strategic environment, being a 'first,' and the importance of relationships in national security. Kerri Hartland is the Director-General of the Australian Secret Intelligence Service. Dr Heather Smith PSM FAIIA is the National President of the Australian Institute of International Affairs. Heather Cook is the Chief Executive Officer of the Australian Criminal Intelligence Commission. Meg Tapia is an Expert Associate at the ANU National Security College. TRANSCRIPTShow notes NSC academic programs – find out more 2024 Independent Intelligence Review overview Australian Institute of International Affairs Australian Criminal Intelligence Commission Australian Secret Intelligence Service We'd love to hear from you! Send in your questions, comments, and suggestions to NatSecPod@anu.edu.au.You can tweet us @NSC_ANU and be sure to subscribe so you don’t miss out on future episodes. The National Security Podcast is available on Acast, Apple Podcasts, Spotify and wherever you get your podcasts. Hosted on Acast. See acast.com/privacy for more information.

Nov 14, 2024 • 36min
George Brandis on how politics and national security intersect
What is the relationship between national security and politics? How does national security policymaking differ from other areas of public policy?And how might the decline of major parties in Australia impact the national security policymaking process?In this episode, George Brandis – Australia's former Attorney-General and High Commissioner to the United kingdom – joins David Andrews to discuss the politics of national security policymaking. Professor The Honourable George Brandis KC is a Professor in the Practice of National Security in a joint appoint to the ANU National Security College (NSC) and the ANU College of Law. David Andrews is a Senior Policy Advisor at NSC. TRANSCRIPTShow notes: Listener survey: The National Security Podcast NSC academic programs – find out more We'd love to hear from you! Send in your questions, comments, and suggestions to NatSecPod@anu.edu.au. You can tweet us @NSC_ANU and be sure to subscribe so you don’t miss out on future episodes. The National Security Podcast is available on Acast, Apple Podcasts, Spotify and wherever you get your podcasts. Hosted on Acast. See acast.com/privacy for more information.

Nov 7, 2024 • 53min
In conversation with Chief of Army, Lieutenant General Simon Stuart
What is the role of the Army in an era shaped by strategic competition?How is the Army adapting for wars of the future?Why is it important to build trust between the Army and Australian society? In this episode, Simon Stuart joins Rory Medcalf discuss the changing nature of warfare, and how the Australian Army is positioned to succeed in facing future challenges. Lieutenant General Simon Stuart AO DSC is Chief of the Australian Army.Professor Rory Medcalf AM is Head of the ANU National Security College (NSC). His professional experience spans more than three decades across diplomacy, intelligence analysis, think tanks, journalism and academia.TRANSCRIPT Show notes · Listener survey: The Nation Security Podcast · NSC academic programs – find out more · Defence Strategic Review 2023 · National Defence Strategy 2024· A2/AD systemsWe'd love to hear from you! Send in your questions, comments, and suggestions to NatSecPod@anu.edu.au. You can tweet us @NSC_ANU and be sure to subscribe so you don’t miss out on future episodes. The National Security Podcast is available on Acast, Apple Podcasts, Spotify and wherever you get your podcasts. Hosted on Acast. See acast.com/privacy for more information.

Oct 31, 2024 • 37min
Killer robots and unpredictability: the new face of weapons regulation
How will automated systems and artificial intelligence change the nature of weaponry?What ethical issues are at play when we discuss lethal autonomous weapons? Can weapons be programmed to follow the laws of armed conflict?How does public literacy influence perceptions of weapons systems?In this episode, Zena Assaad and Lauren Sanders join Danielle Ireland-Piper to discuss weapons regulation, and how artificial intelligence and autonomous systems changes the arms landscape.Dr Zena Assaad is a Senior Research Fellow with the School of Engineering at the Australian National University (ANU).Dr Lauren Sanders is a Senior Research Fellow with the TC Beirne School of Law at the University of Queensland, in the Law and Future of War Project.Dr Danielle-Ireland Piper is Academic Director and Associate Professor at the ANU National Security College (NSC). TRANSCRIPTShow notesListener survey: The Nation Security Podcast NSC academic programs – find out more UN Report on Governing AI EU AI Act Responsible AI in the Military Summit Legal review of autonomous weapons systems We'd love to hear from you! Send in your questions, comments, and suggestions to NatSecPod@anu.edu.au. You can tweet us @NSC_ANU and be sure to subscribe so you don’t miss out on future episodes. The National Security Podcast is available on Acast, Apple Podcasts, Spotify and wherever you get your podcasts. Hosted on Acast. See acast.com/privacy for more information.

Oct 24, 2024 • 48min
Beyond the ballot: misinformation, trust and truth in elections
How do electoral commissions balance public trust with the growing role of technology (like Artificial Intelligence) in electoral processes? Can AI be a democratic tool? How are the electoral commissions in Australia and UK dealing with threats like misinformation and foreign interference? Why is absolute independence important for the Australian and UK electoral commissions? In this episode, Tom Rogers and Vijay Rangarajan join Rory Medcalf to discuss congruent and colliding features of the Australian and British electoral systems: the role of losers' consent, the electoral commissions’ absolute independence, trust in democratic institutions, and influence of foreign interference come election time. Tom Rogers is the Australian Electoral Commissioner. Vijay Rangarajan is the Commissioner of the UK Electoral Commission. Professor Rory Medcalf is Head of the ANU National Security College. His experience spans three decades across diplomacy, intelligence analysis, think tanks, journalism and academia. TRANSCRIPTShow notes: Listener survey: The Nation Security Podcast NSC academic programs – find out more Electoral Integrity Assurance Task Force We’d love to hear from you! Send in your questions, comments, and suggestions to NatSecPod@anu.edu.au. You can tweet us @NSC_ANU and be sure to subscribe so you don’t miss out on future episodes. The National Security Podcast is available on Acast, Apple Podcasts, Spotify, and wherever you get your podcasts. Hosted on Acast. See acast.com/privacy for more information.