
The Everyday Pastor
The Everyday Pastor is a new podcast from TGC on the nuts and bolts of ministry. Hosted by Ligon Duncan, with nearly 20 years of pastoral experience, and Matt Smethurst, who planted a church three years ago, it seeks to model how ministers of different generations, levels of experience, and even denominations can apply God’s never-changing Word in a fast-changing world. Tune in for wisdom, encouragement, and practical insights to help you navigate the trenches of ministry with fortitude and joy.
Latest episodes

Apr 7, 2025 • 33min
When the Pastor's Family Suffers (with Garrett Kell)
Garrett Kell, pastor of Delray Baptist Church in Virginia, shares his family's journey through profound hardship, including a medical emergency involving their daughter and a mother's cancer diagnosis. He highlights the transformative power of community support during trials, emphasizing vulnerability and open communication. Kell discusses the dual nature of God as sovereign yet deeply compassionate, reminding listeners that even pastors face struggles and should open themselves to receiving care. His heartfelt insights encourage trust in God's goodness amid suffering.

Mar 31, 2025 • 38min
The Praying Pastor
Every pastor affirms the importance of prayer and likely excels at it publicly, but consistency in private prayer is hard. And it isn't easy to foster a congregation-wide culture of prayer.In this episode of The Everyday Pastor, Matt Smethurst and Ligon Duncan discuss practical tips for improving your prayer life—and the praying habits of your whole congregation. After all, a church that will be found faithful is a church that will be found praying.Recommended resources:A Way to Pray by Matthew Henry5 Things to Pray for Your Kids by Melissa Kruger5 Things to Pray for Your Spouse: Prayers That Change and Strengthen Your Marriage by Michael and Melissa KrugerI'm Praying for You: 40 Days of Praying the Bible for Someone Who Is Suffering by Nancy GuthriePrayers on the Psalms by David Calhoun (ed.)Praying with Paul: A Call to Spiritual Reformation by Don Carson

Mar 24, 2025 • 59min
How Pastors Should Lead (with Paul Tripp)
Leadership is an art, and many pastors get it wrong—sometimes with devastating results.In this episode of The Everyday Pastor, Paul Tripp joins Matt Smethurst and Ligon Duncan to discuss how a pastor can lead well for the flourishing of the whole church. The conversation touches on the importance of fostering a healthy leadership community, the gift of limits, responding to criticism and praise, the difference-making role of gospel grace, and more.Recommended resources:Dangerous Calling by Paul David TrippLead: 12 Gospel Principles for Leadership in the Church by Paul David TrippInstruments in the Redeemer’s Hands by Paul David Tripp

Mar 17, 2025 • 28min
Toward a Theologically Minded Church
Theology is vital for life. We know this as pastors, but do our members? Are we helping them to grow in thinking theologically?In this episode of The Everyday Pastor, Matt Smethurst and Ligon Duncan discuss practical ways to promote deeper love for God’s truth. After all, how our people view him will make all the difference in their lives.

Mar 10, 2025 • 39min
The Pastor and Purity
When Paul lists elder qualifications, he mentions Satan twice (1 Tim. 3:6–7). Why? The devil loves to stalk and destroy shepherds. And one of his main strategies is tempting us toward little compromises—which never remain little—in the realm of sexual purity.In this episode of The Everyday Pastor, Garrett Kell joins Matt Smethurst and Ligon Duncan to discuss lessons he’s learned the hard way, how to foster transparency among leadership, practical tools for pursuing purity, and more.Recommended resource: Pure in Heart: Sexual Sin and the Promises of God by Garrett Kell

Mar 3, 2025 • 39min
Teach Gospel Assurance
Assurance of salvation is a deeply precious gift, but many Christians struggle to experience it. Pastors have the unique privilege—and challenge—of being “soul doctors” in our people’s lives.In this episode of The Everyday Pastor, Matt Smethurst and Ligon Duncan discuss how to apply the gospel to nominal Christians (who shouldn’t have assurance), struggling Christians (who should), and all Christ’s sheep who are meant to revel in marvelous news: “There is now no condemnation for those who are in Christ Jesus” (Rom. 8:1).

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Feb 24, 2025 • 32min
Prepare Your People For Sunday
Explore the significance of regular church attendance and its biblical foundations. Discover how members can better prepare their hearts for worship through communal Bible readings and curated playlists. Learn about fostering meaningful conversations after church to deepen engagement with faith. Delve into the vital role of church community in personal and communal spiritual growth, emphasizing the ongoing support that fuels faith journeys beyond Sundays.

Feb 17, 2025 • 32min
Supporting Women in the Church
Men and women aren't interchangeable, and God’s gendered design is a beautiful thing. How can pastors encourage and equip the godly women that the Lord entrusts to their care? It has been said, after all, that there’s no such thing as a healthy church in which the men flourish but the women don't.In this episode of The Everyday Pastor, Matt Smethurst and Ligon Duncan discuss how pastors can better support the women in their churches, highlighting the vital role women play in the overall health of the congregation.

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Feb 10, 2025 • 34min
The Value of Theological Triage
Discover the fascinating concept of theological triage, a method to prioritize doctrines within the church. Learn how some beliefs carry more weight than others and the importance of unity despite differing views. Delve into the balance between doctrinal minimalism and sectarianism, and how love can coexist with truth. The role of pastors in navigating these complexities is vital for fostering spiritual growth and maturity among congregations. Historical creeds serve as crucial tools in maintaining clarity on essential beliefs.

Feb 3, 2025 • 41min
Don’t Underestimate Ministry Philosophy
Have you ever wondered why two churches can be so similar in their doctrinal beliefs but so different in their practices? How can we make sure our methodology is rooted in theology, not mere pragmatism?In this episode of The Everyday Pastor, Matt Smethurst and Ligon Duncan are joined by Michael Lawrence to discuss the underrated importance of ministry philosophy in our churches.