Sense-Making in a Changing World

Learning to Lead Like Life ItselfHow do we lead in a way that feels alive, kind, and connected to the living world?In this episode of Sense-Making in a Changing World, Morag is joined by Kelly Wendorf, author of Flying Lead Change and founder of EQUUS, whose work brings together horses, neuroscience, and ancient wisdom to reimagine what leadership can be.Kelly shares about leadership as a natural, relational process. Not command and control, but care and connection - moving from hierarchy to harmony.Her principles of leadership — Safety, Connection, Peace, Freedom, and Joy — mirror what we see in every thriving ecosystem. The same qualities that sustain a healthy forest or a permaculture garden can also sustain our families, workplaces, and communities.Morag and Kelly talk about what it means to lead from presence, to cultivate trust rather than fear, and to listen so deeply that the next right action becomes obvious.“The lead horse doesn’t run at the front. She leads from behind, creating safety so others can step into confidence.”Rewilding leadership is about remembering that life already knows how to lead. Our task is to learn again how to be in conversation with it - to listen to the more-than-human world, and to design our cultures, systems, and movements in ways that honour the web of life we’re part of.This is a conversation for anyone sensing that leadership is less about power and more about participation - an invitation to step back into the flow of life and let nature show the way.🌿 In this episode we explore:What rewilded leadership looks and feels likeHow the wisdom of the herd translates into human relationshipsThe connection between permaculture and leadershipLeading from behind: creating confidence, not controlPresence as a regenerative force in times of changeKelly Wendorf is a leadership coach, educator, and founding partner of EQUUS, an innovative organisation offering experiential learning with horses for leaders and teams. Her book Flying Lead Change: 56 Million Years of Wisdom for Leading and Living explores hoI'd love to hear from you. Text me here.Support the showSubscribe to this podcast, share widely, leave a comment and a 5 star review to help these stories myceliate far. Check out the Sense-Making in a Changing World podcast website & Youtube channel This podcast is hosted by Morag Gamble, founder of the Permaculture Education Institute - the leading-edge international online school for integrated permaculture design, education, leadership and [pr]activism.⁠ Explore Morag Gamble's Permaculture Educators Program Morag also shares conversations through Our Permaculture Life YouTube and the Festival of Wild Ideas.This podcast is broadcast from a solar powered studio in the midst of a permaculture ecovillage on Jinibara & Gubbi Gubbi country.

Bryony Kimmings, an award-winning theatre-maker known for her raw autobiographical work, and Will Duke, a projection designer and permaculture student, discuss their powerful new solo show, Bogwitch. They explore how storytelling can act as a form of climate action, using humor and vulnerability to re-engage audiences with nature. The conversation delves into personal narratives, the significance of grief in relation to environmental loss, and practical approaches to making permaculture accessible and relatable for all.

Rob Hopkins, co-founder of the Transition Towns movement and author of How to Fall in Love with the Future, shares his insights on imagination activism. He discusses how imagination fuels permaculture and community resilience, emphasizing the power of cultivating longing over fear. Rob's Field Recordings from the Future project highlights sensory futuring as a tool for envisioning a vibrant future. He also dives into the importance of playfulness in activism and shares lessons learned from grassroots movements that can inspire transformative change.

Join Leah Rampy, a writer and co-founder of Church of the Wild Two Rivers, and Beth Norcross, a spiritual guide and founder of the Center for Spirituality in Nature, as they explore the spiritual wisdom of trees. They discuss how trees serve as patient teachers and the loneliness they experience, highlighting their interconnectedness through mycelial networks. Practical exercises encourage deeper connections with nature, while the guests advocate for a shift from 'saving' to truly listening to the natural world around us.

This episode, Rebecca Tickell - an award-winning documentary filmmaker, passionate storyteller and environmental activist - joins to explore the art of regeneration.Rebecca creates films, like 'Common Ground' and 'Kiss the Ground', that combine powerful cinematography with a hopeful movement for soil regeneration and health. In a world where extractive systems of agriculture and development have destroyed two thirds of the world’s topsoil and exacerbated climate change to dangerous levels, we have two decades to restore what has been lost. Amongst the crisis, Rebecca shows us how to reground and regenerate - wherever you are with, whatever you have.Tune in to get inspired and you can find more of Rebecca’s work at her website.I'd love to hear from you. Text me here.Support the showSubscribe to this podcast, share widely, leave a comment and a 5 star review to help these stories myceliate far. Check out the Sense-Making in a Changing World podcast website & Youtube channel This podcast is hosted by Morag Gamble, founder of the Permaculture Education Institute - the leading-edge international online school for integrated permaculture design, education, leadership and [pr]activism.⁠ Explore Morag Gamble's Permaculture Educators Program Morag also shares conversations through Our Permaculture Life YouTube and the Festival of Wild Ideas.This podcast is broadcast from a solar powered studio in the midst of a permaculture ecovillage on Jinibara & Gubbi Gubbi country.

Tune into this episode with Poppy Okotcha, ecological home grower and community gardener, to hear about how we can rewild our relationship to the land around us - in our backyards and beyond!Poppy has just released a book, ‘A Wilder Way: How Gardens Grow Us’, a beautiful memoir on her connection to her garden and how settling down her roots in tending a patch of land has helped her grow as an individual and explore how we can all grow a better world. Flipping the narrative from humans being in control of gardens to being part of the garden itself is such an important shift!From the process of writing her book to the holistic process of rewilding ourselves, this conversation with Poppy really uplifted me - I hope you enjoy it too!To find Poppy’s work and her book, visit her website.I'd love to hear from you. Text me here.Support the showSubscribe to this podcast, share widely, leave a comment and a 5 star review to help these stories myceliate far. Check out the Sense-Making in a Changing World podcast website & Youtube channel This podcast is hosted by Morag Gamble, founder of the Permaculture Education Institute - the leading-edge international online school for integrated permaculture design, education, leadership and [pr]activism.⁠ Explore Morag Gamble's Permaculture Educators Program Morag also shares conversations through Our Permaculture Life YouTube and the Festival of Wild Ideas.This podcast is broadcast from a solar powered studio in the midst of a permaculture ecovillage on Jinibara & Gubbi Gubbi country.

This episode, join me to explore mindfulness with the inspiring Fleur Chambers - multi-award-winning meditation teacher, best-selling author, philanthropist and creator of The Happy Habit app.In this conversation we explore the question many of us have - how do we learn to be in service with our work? And how can we be present in this journey? As both Fleur and I run a business, we share our experiences in how we have found our confidence in finding a flow in our work.We also touch on how meditation can be a rebellious act - a small way of becoming more audacious in our everyday life, while grounding ourselves to meaningful action. What we need more than ever is to connect with our inner permaculture and find confidence in our purpose.To find out more about Fleur's work and publications, visit www.thehappyhabit.com.au.I'd love to hear from you. Text me here.Support the showSubscribe to this podcast, share widely, leave a comment and a 5 star review to help these stories myceliate far. Check out the Sense-Making in a Changing World podcast website & Youtube channel This podcast is hosted by Morag Gamble, founder of the Permaculture Education Institute - the leading-edge international online school for integrated permaculture design, education, leadership and [pr]activism.⁠ Explore Morag Gamble's Permaculture Educators Program Morag also shares conversations through Our Permaculture Life YouTube and the Festival of Wild Ideas.This podcast is broadcast from a solar powered studio in the midst of a permaculture ecovillage on Jinibara & Gubbi Gubbi country.

Laura Oldanie, founder of Rich & Resilient Living, chats with Morag Gamble about the fascinating interplay between permaculture and money. They redefine wealth, emphasizing the significance of relationships and community capital over mere financial assets. Laura discusses innovative ideas such as eco-villages for affordable housing and Japan's re-ruralization movement aimed at revitalizing local economies. The conversation also highlights the importance of integrating financial discussions within permaculture education, paving the way for sustainable living and resilience.

In this episode I welcome Emeritus Professor Stuart Hill - scholar, educator, and advocate for transformative change in social ecology - to explore the interconnections of permaculture and psychology. Join us as we dive into how to nurture a deeper inner permaculture while nourishing a wider outer permaculture.Stuart is an educator and researcher whose knowledge spans from ecology to entomology, agriculture to psychotherapy, and education to policy development. Currently Foundation Chair of Social Ecology at Western Sydney University and having published over 350 papers and reports, Stuart has been at the forefront of social regeneration for decades - advocating for regenerative practices and facilitating the hard conversations that meaningfully develop community.Whether you're passionate about sustainability, innovation, or societal change, this conversation will leave you inspired with practical design exercises to apply in your work and community!I'd love to hear from you. Text me here.Support the showSubscribe to this podcast, share widely, leave a comment and a 5 star review to help these stories myceliate far. Check out the Sense-Making in a Changing World podcast website & Youtube channel This podcast is hosted by Morag Gamble, founder of the Permaculture Education Institute - the leading-edge international online school for integrated permaculture design, education, leadership and [pr]activism.⁠ Explore Morag Gamble's Permaculture Educators Program Morag also shares conversations through Our Permaculture Life YouTube and the Festival of Wild Ideas.This podcast is broadcast from a solar powered studio in the midst of a permaculture ecovillage on Jinibara & Gubbi Gubbi country.

Join me in this episode with Dr Katherine Trebeck to imagine what an economy designed to serve people actually looks like and how we can make it happen. Come explore the root of today's crises and the seeds of the solutions with us.Dr. Katherine Trebeck is a leading political economist, writer, TedX speaker and leading advocate for economic system change. She co-founded the Wellbeing Economy Alliance, is writer-at-large at the University of Edinburgh, the Economic Change Lead at The Next Economy and played a pivotal role in establishing the Wellbeing Economy Governments (WEGo) partnership - among many other roles. Katherine is passionate about aligning economic systems with social and environmental well-being, striving for an economy that serves both people and the planet. To find more about her work, visit www.katherinetrebeck.com.To see Katherine in action, come along to our next Permaculture Film Club to see her latest film 'Purpose' - register here!I'd love to hear from you. Text me here.Support the showSubscribe to this podcast, share widely, leave a comment and a 5 star review to help these stories myceliate far. Check out the Sense-Making in a Changing World podcast website & Youtube channel This podcast is hosted by Morag Gamble, founder of the Permaculture Education Institute - the leading-edge international online school for integrated permaculture design, education, leadership and [pr]activism.⁠ Explore Morag Gamble's Permaculture Educators Program Morag also shares conversations through Our Permaculture Life YouTube and the Festival of Wild Ideas.This podcast is broadcast from a solar powered studio in the midst of a permaculture ecovillage on Jinibara & Gubbi Gubbi country.