Brewers Journal Podcast

If you’re looking for a way to demonstrate how the UK craft beer scene has changed and evolved in the last decade, then the Bermondsey Beer Mile is a pretty good place to start.  An amalgamation of breweries, taproom and bars that stretch along much of Enid Street and Druid Street in London SE1, businesses have come – and businesses have gone since The Kernel started brewing back in 2009. While a lay person might not have heard of your favourite brewery or your favourite brew, the success of the Bermondsey Beer Mile meant it entered the lexicon of many outside of the craft bubble. The wealth of hospitality environments, not all exclusively beer-forward, have helped create a destination for thirsty patrons. And if you’re remotely interested in the world of beer and great liquid then you’ve undoubtedly got your own anecdote about a visit to this part of Southeast London. If not, you certainly know someone that does. While establishments such as Partizan, Brew By Numbers, The Bottle Shop, Hawkes Cider, uBrew, Affinity, The Outpost and Fourpure have all vacated these environs during this period, the mile – now realistically closer to being the Bermondsey Beer Two Miles – has welcomed newer names, too. Mash Paddle, Craft Beer Junction, It Ain’t Much If It Ain’t Dutch and The Kernel’s celebrated new Spa Road location have joined establishments like Cloudwater, Southwark Brewing, Anspach & Hobday, and Kanpai Sake in recent years. And another business that has been part of the Bermondsey fabric since 2019 is Bianca Road Brew Co. Founded by engineer Reece Wood, the brewery began trading from a unit in Bianca Road, Peckham back in 2016. A move to Bermondsey followed a year later before securing its current home on Enid Street some six years ago. Much has changed in that time, though. The brewery would initially call Brew By Numbers and The Kernel its neighbours. Though the former’s beers are now brewed outside of London by Keystone Brewing while The Kernel has its aforementioned new home a minute up the road. And earlier this year, Bianca Road Brew Co would announce a significant milestone – with a new ownership structure taking on the Bermondsey business. As of 2025, the brewery is co-owned by Matt Simpson, Jordan Fancey, and Terry Staples – familiar faces who have helped shape Bianca Road from the inside over the years. They were joined by respected figures in UK brewing including Dennis Ratliff who brings extensive experience and a fresh sense of purpose to this new chapter.  Ratliff was previously head brewer at Brew By Numbers and Partizan and is known for his precision, balance, and commitment to brewing quality. And central to this evolution is the production of the core beers fans love, a wealth of seasonal and limited releases and its recently-opened new community-focused taproom. Thanks to a successful crowdfunding campaign earlier in the summer, the team were able to relocate and redesign their taproom operation. As a result, they’ve created a space with more comfortable seating and capacity for live events, while also freeing up critical space inside the brewery to install a dedicated cold store – a move that will allow for increased production, tighter cold-chain control, and even higher quality standards. And the new taproom, which is now fully up-and-running, is already proving to be the perfect showcase for the beers the team brew. With that in mind, we recently caught up with Dennis and Jordan to discuss their own journeys, the new-look Bianca Road Brew Co, the importance of their taproom and their plans for the road ahead.

While we primarily focus on the wonderful world of beer and brewing, it’s occasionally important to take time to look at the excellent innovation taking place across the wider world of drinks. So at our Brewers Congress in the Autumn, we invited the team at Botivo to share their story. Botivo, which is non-alcoholic, is an intensely refreshing aperitivo with a bittersweet backbone, herbal notes and a tang of citrus. A big-sipping drink hand-blended in small batches at Lannock Farm, the Botivo blend of five raw ingredients takes over 1 year from start to finish. And the production manager at Botivo is Francesca Nikita Corradin. In her career Francesca has brewed across Europe and joined Botivo as a production supervisor in December 2023 before being promoted to production manager earlier this year. In London she was joined by Sam Paget-Steavenson, co-founder of Botivo, to share their experiences and expertise in creating and building a non-alcoholic brand. In addition to talking us through the process, they explained that we live in a world of moderation and we’re constantly told that less is better. So as a result, they created a drink that brings the true craft and depth of flavour we all see in the alcohol category to the non-alc category. And this meant using real ingredients, no flavourings and low intervention techniques.

Pete Brown is a British author, journalist, broadcaster and consultant specialising in food and drink. His latest book ‘Tasting Notes: The Art and Science of Pairing Beer With Music’ was published this year. And since February 2025, he has been the Sunday Times Magazine’s weekly beer columnist – the only regular broadsheet newspaper or magazine beer columnist in the UK. Across thirteen books, his broad, fresh approach takes in social history, cultural commentary, travel writing, personal discovery and natural history, and his words are always delivered with the warmth and wit you’d expect from a great night down the pub. At our Brewers Congress this year, we invited Pete to share some of his experience and expertise when it comes to working with the beer and brewing trade. In his talk Pete discussed the concept of premiumisation, emphasising its long-standing presence in marketing and branding. He highlighted that premiumisation is not solely about price but encompasses desirability, luxury, and necessity. He also noted that since the 1970s, products have become more reliable, leading to overconsumption and a shift towards experiences. Pete also addressed how big brewers define premium, often inconsistently, and stressed the importance of consumer perception over corporate definitions.

Francesco Lo Bue is an agronomist with a degree in food technology, specialised in hops aromatic compounds. He’s also a brewer with 10 years of experience in the some most advanced craft breweries in Europe and the UK such as Beavertown in London.

 With that wealth of knowledge at his disposal, we invited Francesco to deliver a talk on hop compounds at our recent Brewers Congress in London. He outlines how hop compounds peak at different times and explained how brewers can bring them all into the beers they brew through a number of actionable tips.

What is the secret behind running a successful brewery? For today’s guest, the ability to make strategic production choices and prioritize markets is key. Marian Reed is the General Manager and Head of Business Development at Sudden Death Brewing in Lübeck, Germany. Throughout her career, she has been able to connect vision to actions, identify root causes and best outcomes, while managing team members in a way that best suits their own personal development arcs. And last month she flew into London to take part in our 2025 Brewers Congress. In her talk, Marian spoke on how to make strategic production choices via data management and how to prioritize markets and know where you best ‘fit’. She argued why people are essential to a great brewery and why owners and leadership have an obligation to keep the team as their number one priority. She also outlined that strategies vary, there is no one size fits all, so mix and match which approaches work best for your crew.

In today’s brewing world an entire brand from concept to completion can be developed for you in seconds at the touch of a button, or outsourced to agencies who almost definitely don’t know your beer as well as you do. However, as this week’s guest asks, in an increasingly digital world, how do modern marketing strategies resonate with consumers who are looking for something more tangible, something genuine, something authentic?  In his talk on ‘Reflections on Authenticity’ at our recent Brewers Congress in London, Matthew Curtis discussed just that. Matthew is a writer and photographer obsessed with beer, pubs and their culture. Based in Manchester, he’s the co-founder of Pellicle Magazine and the author of three books on beer and pub culture within the UK, including the award-winning Manchester’s Best Beer Pubs and Bars. In London he took a deep dive into the importance of conveying authenticity in your breweries brand message, and explored how being true to yourself, your brand, your values and – most importantly – the beer you make is key to winning hearts and minds in beer’s modern era. 

Last month The Kernel celebrated its 16th (!) birthday. A fantastic achievement by one of the UK’s most-loved breweries. And as the dust settles on our very own Brewers Congress event in the capital last week, we wanted to revisit our chat with brewery founder Evin O’Riordain from earlier this year before normal service resumes on The Brewers Journal podcast next week…. The London brewing scene has changed a great deal in the last decade. Styles have come into, then gone out of, fashion. People have learnt their trade across it and, in many cases, moved on to different companies, different counties, different countries. We’ve also seen breweries open, breweries consolidate, breweries close. But thankfully, one mainstay in England’s capital since 2009 has been The Kernel. Under the stewardship of founder Evin O’Riordain, it is safe to say the brewery has inspired a significant amount of people to get into brewing and for countless more, to look at beer in a different light. And last summer, The Kernel would open its beautiful new taproom on Spa Road. So with the fantastic new space now a Bermondsey mainstay, we caught up with Evin to learn more about the challenges and opportunities this move presented. We discussed the brewery’s evolving beer offering, which include a number of regarded and revered collaborations, The Kernel’s position in London’s ever-changing brewing fabric and more besides.

Our 2025 Brewers Choice Awards take place on the 30th September and Anspach & Hobday are nominated for both ‘Brewery of The Year’ and ‘Beer of The Year’ for the fantastic London Black. With that in mind, let’s revisit the talk that Paul Anspach, co-founder of London business, gave in Bristol earlier this year. Every so often a beer comes along and things just click. A combination of brilliant branding, a brilliant brewery and, of course, a brilliant beverage are essential ingredients for a beer that resonates with the consumer. And with London Black, the 4.4% Nitro Porter from Anspach & Hobday, you’ve got just that. The brewery, founded by Paul Anspach & Jack Hobday back in 2013, has gone from strength to strength in recent years and much of that growth can be attributed to their flagship beer. London Black has fundamentally changed and redefined the brewery and business with approximately 70+% of their output the popular Nitro Porter. With that in mind, we invited brewery co-founder Paul to speak at our Brewers Lectures in Bristol last week. In his lecture, Paul outlined the importance of the brand and how crucial factors such as an authentic, believable story coupled with clear messaging have helped elevate the beer. He also explained how the team are striving to establish London Black as The beer of London and to forge the association between London and London Black such that for a beer drinker, any visit to the city would not be complete without a pint of London Black.  Image Credit: Anspach & Hobday

There are little more than three weeks to go until The 2025 Brewers Congress and Brewers Choice Awards. One company nominated in this year’s awards is the fantastic Thornbridge. So what better time for us to revisit our interview with co-founder Simon Webster from earlier this year. There are certain joys, certain constants when it comes to the world of beer. And one of those has to be the pleasure when scanning the bar for a pint and you happen across the pump clip for Jaipur on cask. It’s a seminal beer that has stood the test of time and this year the brewery responsible, Thornbridge, based in the Derbyshire Dales, celebrates the 20th anniversary of both that beer and the business, too. The Thornbridge story began back in 2005 when founders Jim Harrison and Simon Webster recruited two young brewers to brew on a second hand 10-barrel kit in the grounds of Thornbridge Hall. A journey that began in the small Stonemasons Workshop at Thornbridge Hall is one that has gone on to grow into the Riverside Brewery in Bakewell where the team produce some nine million pints of beer each year. Like any good business, the brewery has moved with the times. While Jaipur remains the flagship, its gluten-free Helles Lukas and Green Mountain, a 4.3% Hazy Session IPA, also account for a significant amount of the brewery’s production. Thanks to a brewing team led by Ben Wood, Dominic Driscoll and Rob Lovatt, they create beers that cater for a wide and diverse audience. So as the celebrated brewery comes toward the end on a year that toasts two decades in business, we caught up with co-founder Simon Webster to discuss the Thornbridge journey. We look at the recent fantastic new addition of a Burton Union set, why collaborations continue to play a key part in the brewery’s proposition and, with new pub openings on the horizon, why Simon believes that such environments remain the best choice when it comes to enjoying a beer.

Brian Dickson is the co-founder and technical director at Leeds-based Northern Monk. One of the UK’s finest brewers, he’s been an integral member of the Yorkshire business since it started out in 2014. And an important part of the brewery’s current path is its journey to carbon neutral operations. In his recent talk, he shared some of Northern Monk’s achievements to-date in the fields of water, wastage, electricity and nitrogen. He also outlined the team’s future plans and goals that include biofuel energy generation, process water recycling, AI temperature control and solar installations.