

The Truth In This Art: Stories That Matter
Rob Lee
The Truth In This Art is a podcast hosted by Rob Lee. In each episode, Rob has authentic conversations with artists, creative thinkers, and innovators. They share their work, ideas, and what inspires them. Listeners get to hear stories that matter from people who are making waves in arts and culture today.
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Aug 7, 2025 • 1h
#56 – What Do We Inherit and What Do We Share? | Kiara-Maribel Rivera
Artist Kiara-Maribel Rivera joins the podcast. In this conversation, Rivera reflects on how her family’s migration and history shaped her identity and her creative work. She shares how her mother’s careful habit of saving photos, report cards, and awards helped her feel connected to her roots. Rivera discusses using art to examine memory, family archives, and the fragments of stories lost along the way. Rivera talks about the challenges of adapting to new places and navigating art school. Rivera describes learning how to preserve and honor the past while creating something new. Rivera opens up about the care needed when working with personal and family records, and how art becomes a way to explore belonging and heritage.Topics Covered:The influence of family migration and history on Rivera’s artGrowing up surrounded by photos, documents, and personal archivesUsing art to explore memory, loss, and connectionThe challenges and opportunities of art school as a first-generation studentBalancing privacy, care, and community when working with personal historiesHonoring heritage and identity through creative practiceCurious to discover more? Follow Kiara’s creative work and journey online.
Host: Rob LeeMusic: Original music by Daniel Alexis Music with additional music from Chipzard and TeTresSeis. Production:Produced by Rob Lee & Daniel AlexisEdited by Daniel AlexisShow Notes courtesy of Rob Lee and TransistorPhotos:Rob Lee photos by Vicente Martin for The Truth In This Art and Contrarian Aquarian Media.Guest photos courtesy of the guest, unless otherwise noted.Support the podcast The Truth In This Art Podcast Fractured Atlas (Fundraising): https://www.fracturedatlas.orgThe Truth In This Art Podcast Bluesky: https://bsky.app/profile/thetruthinthisart.bsky.socialThe Truth In This Art Podcast Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/truthinthisart/?hl=enThe Truth In This Art Podcast Website: https://www.thetruthinthisart.com/The Truth In This Art Podcast Shop: Merch from Redbubble
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Aug 5, 2025 • 1h 1min
#55 – Who Controls the Narrative? | Carter Wynne
Carter Wynne, an artist and curator from Washington, D.C., delves into her rich family history of activism that shapes her art focused on social justice. She shares her journey as a self-taught painter, harnessing emotions and personal experiences to fuel her creativity. Wynne discusses the importance of narrative ownership in art, the balance of her roles as an artist and advocate, and how genuine connections enrich her work. With a nostalgic lens, she reflects on her childhood and community ties, all while emphasizing resistance against societal pressures.

Jul 29, 2025 • 1h 8min
#54 – What Hides Beneath the Surface? | Tiger Chengliang Cai
Artist Tiger Chengliang Cai joins the The Truth in This Art. In this episode, Cai shares his journey from China to New York and how his background shapes his creative work. Cai talks about teaching himself art as a child, struggling against expectations, and making his own path in the art world. He loves using riddles and metaphors in his art, with a special focus on the immigrant experience. Cai explains why he doesn’t want to “spoon-feed” meaning to his audience, preferring people to find their own truth in his work. He describes the challenges of making art in a new country and bridging the gap between cultures. Cai reflects on staying true to his ideas, experimenting, and using curiosity as his guide.Topics Covered:Teaching himself art as a child in ChinaOvercoming expectations to pursue artNavigating the differences between audiences in China and the U.S.Using riddles and metaphors, especially about immigrationStaying true to personal beliefs in creative workThe importance of curiosity and experimentationBridging cultures through artWant to see more of Tiger’s creative journey? Visit his Instagram @tigerpht or his website to check out his latest projects.
Host: Rob LeeMusic: Original music by Daniel Alexis Music with additional music from Chipzard and TeTresSeis. Production:Produced by Rob Lee & Daniel AlexisEdited by Daniel AlexisShow Notes courtesy of Rob Lee and TransistorPhotos:Rob Lee photos by Vicente Martin for The Truth In This Art and Contrarian Aquarian Media.Guest photos courtesy of the guest, unless otherwise noted.Support the podcast The Truth In This Art Podcast Fractured Atlas (Fundraising): https://www.fracturedatlas.orgThe Truth In This Art Podcast Bluesky: https://bsky.app/profile/thetruthinthisart.bsky.socialThe Truth In This Art Podcast Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/truthinthisart/?hl=enThe Truth In This Art Podcast Website: https://www.thetruthinthisart.com/The Truth In This Art Podcast Shop: Merch from Redbubble
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Jul 24, 2025 • 52min
#53 – Can Art Make Philosophy Less Intimidating? | Mia Ntenta
Artist and philosopher Mia Ntenta joins the podcast. Ntenta is a visual artist working across painting, sculpture, and installation. Ntenta is one of several artists I interviewed from Spring/Break Art Fair 2025.Ntenta shares how her philosophy background led her to explore ideas through painting and sculpture. Ntenta explains how her visual language and symbols clarify complex philosophical ideas.Ntenta breaks down her ongoing, expansive work 'The Omegans Project'. The Omegans Project, an expansive and ongoing series begun by Ntenta in 2019. This work reveals Ntenta's dystopian world and her symbolic language for deconstructing existence.Later, Ntenta discusses how her symbols’ meanings evolve across different works.Ntenta uses art to spark curiosity and make philosophy accessible.Topics Covered:Transitioning from philosophy to visual arts as a new medium of thoughtUsing painting and sculpture to make complex ideas more approachableCreating and evolving a personal symbolic universe across artworksStrategies for communicating philosophical concepts with viewersRecent exhibitions and sharing work with the public for the first time📍 Discover more about Ntenta’s work on Instagram (@miantenta) and at her website.
Host: Rob LeeMusic: Original music by Daniel Alexis Music with additional music from Chipzard and TeTresSeis. Production:Produced by Rob Lee & Daniel AlexisEdited by Daniel AlexisShow Notes courtesy of Rob Lee and TransistorPhotos:Rob Lee photos by Vicente Martin for The Truth In This Art and Contrarian Aquarian Media.Guest photos courtesy of the guest, unless otherwise noted.Support the podcast The Truth In This Art Podcast Fractured Atlas (Fundraising): https://www.fracturedatlas.orgThe Truth In This Art Podcast Bluesky: https://bsky.app/profile/thetruthinthisart.bsky.socialThe Truth In This Art Podcast Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/truthinthisart/?hl=enThe Truth In This Art Podcast Website: https://www.thetruthinthisart.com/The Truth In This Art Podcast Shop: Merch from Redbubble
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Jul 22, 2025 • 1h 3min
#52 – Can Sculpture Help Us Imagine Life After Humanity? | Rosalie Smith
Artist Rosalie Smith joins the podcast. Smith reflects on developing her unique style. Smith talks about making sculptures with old technology and everyday things. Smith shares her process behind her pieces, and how recent experiences in New York and her education have shaped her approach. Smith discusses balancing the absurd and the serious. Smith describes what it means to create and teach in today’s fast-paced and chaotic world. Smith, Fresh off her MFA at CUNY Hunter, also talks about recent and upcoming exhibitions that mark new chapters in her creative journey.Topics Covered:Blending tech debris and found materials to reimagine survival after collapseInfusing sculpture with both humor and weight to address environmental griefHow working in New York and completing an MFA have influenced Smith’s visionTeaching art while developing a personal practiceBalancing narrative, comedy, and chaos in visual workReflecting on creative growth through education and experimentation📍 See Rosalie Smith’s work at exhibitions in New York and follow for upcoming shows and projects.
Host: Rob LeeMusic: Original music by Daniel Alexis Music with additional music from Chipzard and TeTresSeis. Production:Produced by Rob Lee & Daniel AlexisEdited by Daniel AlexisShow Notes courtesy of Rob Lee and TransistorPhotos:Rob Lee photos by Vicente Martin for The Truth In This Art and Contrarian Aquarian Media.Guest photos courtesy of the guest, unless otherwise noted.Support the podcast The Truth In This Art Podcast Fractured Atlas (Fundraising): https://www.fracturedatlas.orgThe Truth In This Art Podcast Bluesky: https://bsky.app/profile/thetruthinthisart.bsky.socialThe Truth In This Art Podcast Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/truthinthisart/?hl=enThe Truth In This Art Podcast Website: https://www.thetruthinthisart.com/The Truth In This Art Podcast Shop: Merch from Redbubble
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Jul 17, 2025 • 45min
#51 – Is Being Present the Secret Ingredient of CookHouse? | Chef George Dailey
Chef & owner of On the Hill Cafe and CookHouse, Chef George Dailey joins the podcast. Dailey is originally from Venezuela. He started his cooking career in Boston, then moved to Baltimore and opened On the Hill Cafe in 2005. In this conversation, Dailey shares his passion for global flavors, seasonal menus, and the art of hospitality. Dailey reflects on building two beloved Baltimore spots. Dailey shares his hands-on approach that ensures quality and consistency. Dailey reveals how he crafts inventive menus inspired by what he loves to eat and what makes the community happy. Dailey also shares how being present in every detail keeps his restaurants thriving after decades.Topics Covered: The journey of sustaining On the Hill Cafe for over 20 years and launching CookHouse Menu development: balancing classics, creativity, and customer cravings The value of local, seasonal ingredients and adapting to change Dailey’s commitment to being in the kitchen and why that matters Building community and memorable experiences through food📍 Find On the Hill Cafe and CookHouse in Baltimore’s Bolton Hill, and discover their menus online or on social media.
Host: Rob LeeMusic: Original music by Daniel Alexis Music with additional music from Chipzard and TeTresSeis. Production:Produced by Rob Lee & Daniel AlexisEdited by Daniel AlexisShow Notes courtesy of Rob Lee and TransistorPhotos:Rob Lee photos by Vicente Martin for The Truth In This Art and Contrarian Aquarian Media.Guest photos courtesy of the guest, unless otherwise noted.Support the podcast The Truth In This Art Podcast Fractured Atlas (Fundraising): https://www.fracturedatlas.orgThe Truth In This Art Podcast Bluesky: https://bsky.app/profile/thetruthinthisart.bsky.socialThe Truth In This Art Podcast Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/truthinthisart/?hl=enThe Truth In This Art Podcast Website: https://www.thetruthinthisart.com/The Truth In This Art Podcast Shop: Merch from Redbubble
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Jul 15, 2025 • 54min
#50 – How Does The Corner Pantry Grow? | Chef Neill Howell
Chef & co-owner of The Corner Pantry (TCP), Neill Howell returns to the podcast to talk growth, creativity, and keeping standards high. Howell & TCP has expanded the cafe and deepened their commitment to local sourcing. Howell shares his philosophy behind TCP's menu and how to build community through food. Also, Howell discusses how evolving, being creative and has kept the business successful for 11+ years.Topics Covered:How Corner Pantry expanded while keeping its identity intactThe creative challenge of seasonal, local sourcingCatering as a creative and financial engineWhy restaurant work is more than food—it’s relationshipsStaying relevant through change, quality, and experimentation🎧 Listen to Neill Howell’s first episode in our archive for more on his culinary roots and vision. 📍 Corner Pantry Website: https://cornerpantrybaltimore.com
Host: Rob LeeMusic: Original music by Daniel Alexis Music with additional music from Chipzard and TeTresSeis. Production:Produced by Rob Lee & Daniel AlexisEdited by Daniel AlexisShow Notes courtesy of Rob Lee and TransistorPhotos:Rob Lee photos by Vicente Martin for The Truth In This Art and Contrarian Aquarian Media.Guest photos courtesy of the guest, unless otherwise noted.Support the podcast The Truth In This Art Podcast Fractured Atlas (Fundraising): https://www.fracturedatlas.orgThe Truth In This Art Podcast Bluesky: https://bsky.app/profile/thetruthinthisart.bsky.socialThe Truth In This Art Podcast Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/truthinthisart/?hl=enThe Truth In This Art Podcast Website: https://www.thetruthinthisart.com/The Truth In This Art Podcast Shop: Merch from Redbubble
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Jul 13, 2025 • 54min
#49 – How to Stay Sharp When Knife-Making Gets Hard? | Henry Hyde
Henry Hyde—artisan and owner of Hyde Handmade Knives—returns to talk craft, community, and creating work that resonates. Hyde is an artisan known for his kitchen knives and meticulous approach to materials. In the episode, Hyde reflects on the evolution of his process, from isolating early days to searching for real connection at craft shows. Also, Hyde discusses the realities of working alone and why iteration beats perfectionism.Navigating solitude and the creative processChoosing craftsmanship over mass attentionEmbracing feedback at markets and in personLetting go of perfectionism and releasing finished workThe balance between woodworking, tinkering, and knife making🔪 Discover how Hyde's handcrafted tools reflect both his roots in Maryland and his belief that artistry is in its making. 🎧 Revisit Henry's first episode from 2022 for more context on his powerful comic-based series.
Host: Rob LeeMusic: Original music by Daniel Alexis Music with additional music from Chipzard and TeTresSeis. Production:Produced by Rob Lee & Daniel AlexisEdited by Daniel AlexisShow Notes courtesy of Rob Lee and TransistorPhotos:Rob Lee photos by Vicente Martin for The Truth In This Art and Contrarian Aquarian Media.Guest photos courtesy of the guest, unless otherwise noted.Support the podcast The Truth In This Art Podcast Fractured Atlas (Fundraising): https://www.fracturedatlas.orgThe Truth In This Art Podcast Bluesky: https://bsky.app/profile/thetruthinthisart.bsky.socialThe Truth In This Art Podcast Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/truthinthisart/?hl=enThe Truth In This Art Podcast Website: https://www.thetruthinthisart.com/The Truth In This Art Podcast Shop: Merch from Redbubble
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Jul 11, 2025 • 1h 3min
#48 – How Do Reimagined Comics Challenge Social Narratives? | Kumasi J. Barnett
Artist and professor Kumasi J. Barnett returns to the podcast to talk art, protest, and making work that cuts through the noise.Known for subverting comic books through introspective reinterpretations, Barnett reflects his work today. Barnett shares the realities of being a Black painter, creating in the shadow of systemic erasure, and why some truths hit harder in spandex.Topic Covered:Why painting is the easy part—but being an artist is notRewriting comic canon to reflect modern injusticeTeaching art, parenting, and painting as a long gameWhy selling out isn't the flex many think it isWhat he’s planning next (spoiler: it's political)🎧 Revisit Kumasi’s first episode from 2022 for more context on his powerful comic-based series.
Host: Rob LeeMusic: Original music by Daniel Alexis Music with additional music from Chipzard and TeTresSeis. Production:Produced by Rob Lee & Daniel AlexisEdited by Daniel AlexisShow Notes courtesy of Rob Lee and TransistorPhotos:Rob Lee photos by Vicente Martin for The Truth In This Art and Contrarian Aquarian Media.Guest photos courtesy of the guest, unless otherwise noted.Support the podcast The Truth In This Art Podcast Fractured Atlas (Fundraising): https://www.fracturedatlas.orgThe Truth In This Art Podcast Bluesky: https://bsky.app/profile/thetruthinthisart.bsky.socialThe Truth In This Art Podcast Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/truthinthisart/?hl=enThe Truth In This Art Podcast Website: https://www.thetruthinthisart.com/The Truth In This Art Podcast Shop: Merch from Redbubble
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Jul 9, 2025 • 1h 29min
#47 – Can You Keep Your Integrity and Still Eat? | Joseph Cochran II
Multidisciplinary artist, researcher, and educator Joseph Cochran II returns to The Truth In This Art. A native New Yorker, Cochran practice spans photography, video, and archival work, with NYC baked in. Cochran examines the emotional cost of late capitalism in industrialized societies.In this conversation: Cochran discusses living and working in China, rebuilding after loss, and how his identity shapes how he moves through the world. He reflects on balancing financial survival with creative ethics. He also discusses staying connected to his communities and the emotional weight in his work.This is a candid, witty conversation about legacy, creative freedom, and staying grounded.Topics include:Learning to live without depending on art to make a living—and why that helped his practiceWhy staying connected to the streets isn’t about authenticity, but accountabilityThe power of memory in his photographs—and why he remembers every shotThoughts on working in Shanghai, Brussels, and the Balkans while staying rooted in NYCUpcoming exhibition Public Work opening July 10 in New York🎧 Want more? Check out Joseph Cochran II’s first interview in the archive—where we talk about the early days of his work and life abroad.
Host: Rob LeeMusic: Original music by Daniel Alexis Music with additional music from Chipzard and TeTresSeis. Production:Produced by Rob Lee & Daniel AlexisEdited by Daniel AlexisShow Notes courtesy of Rob Lee and TransistorPhotos:Rob Lee photos by Vicente Martin for The Truth In This Art and Contrarian Aquarian Media.Guest photos courtesy of the guest, unless otherwise noted.Support the podcast The Truth In This Art Podcast Fractured Atlas (Fundraising): https://www.fracturedatlas.orgThe Truth In This Art Podcast Bluesky: https://bsky.app/profile/thetruthinthisart.bsky.socialThe Truth In This Art Podcast Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/truthinthisart/?hl=enThe Truth In This Art Podcast Website: https://www.thetruthinthisart.com/The Truth In This Art Podcast Shop: Merch from Redbubble
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