
Human Capital Leadership
Maximize your personal and #OrganizationalPotential with the Human Capital Leadership podcast! We’re your source for personal, professional, and #OrganizationalGrowth and development. We share our own original #Research, explore #IndustryTrends, and interview executives and thought leaders from across the globe. Join us for practitioner-oriented content around all things #Leadership, #HR, #TalentManagement, #OrganizationalDevelopment, and #ChangeManagement.
Latest episodes

Apr 2, 2024 • 27min
S49E27 - Why Return to Office Plans are Failing, and What Companies Should Be Focused on Instead, with Kevin Eikenberry
In this podcast episode, Dr. Jonathan H. Westover talks with Kevin Eikenberry about why return to office plans are failing, and what companies should be focused on instead.
Kevin Eikenberry (https://www.linkedin.com/in/kevineikenberry/) is a recognized world expert on leadership development and learning, and is the Chief Potential Officer of The Kevin Eikenberry Group. In the last thirty years, he has helped organizations across North America, and leaders from 53 countries on leadership, teamwork, communication and more. Twice, he has been named by Inc.com as one of the top 100 Leadership and Management Experts in the World and has been included in other similar lists.
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Check out Dr. Westover's book, The Future Leader.
Check out Dr. Westover's book, 'Bluer than Indigo' Leadership.
Check out Dr. Westover's book, The Alchemy of Truly Remarkable Leadership.
Check out the latest issue of the Human Capital Leadership magazine.
Each HCI Podcast episode (Program, ID No. 655967) has been approved for 0.50 HR (General) recertification credit hours toward aPHR™, aPHRi™, PHR®, PHRca®, SPHR®, GPHR®, PHRi™ and SPHRi™ recertification through HR Certification Institute® (HRCI®).
Each HCI Podcast episode (Program ID: 24-DP529) has been approved for 0.50 HR (General) SHRM Professional Development Credits (PDCs) for SHRM-CP and SHRM-SCPHR recertification through SHRM, as part of the knowledge and competency programs related to the SHRM Body of Applied Skills and Knowledge™ (the SHRM BASK™).
Human Capital Innovations has been pre-approved by the ATD Certification Institute to offer educational programs that can be used towards initial eligibility and recertification of the Certified Professional in Talent Development (CPTD) and Associate Professional in Talent Development (APTD) credentials. Each HCI Podcast episode qualifies for a maximum of 0.50 points.

Apr 1, 2024 • 26min
Special Episode - Work Life Well-Lived: The Motives Met Pathway to No-B.S. Well-Being at Work, with Kelly Mackin
In this podcast episode, Dr. Jonathan H. Westover talks with Kelly Mackin about her book, Work Life Well-Lived: The Motives Met Pathway to No-B.S. Well-Being at Work.
Kelly Mackin is the author of Work Life Well-Lived: The Motives Met Pathway to No-B.S. Well-Being at Work, and cofounder and CEO of the Motives Met Platform and Human Needs Assessment which empowers people to create their best work life and workplace. Kelly’s journey from ill-being to well-being at work ignited her passion and dedication for helping people create health and happiness in their lives through a unique blend of skills. Her expertise spans quantitative research in human behavior to fostering psychological safety, from guiding individuals in mind management coaching to imparting the practice of mindfulness meditation both in and outside of work. As a researcher, she gains insights into significant parts of our lives like values, stress, and emotions to develop frameworks to better understand the world and ourselves to make positive change. Kelly’s mission is to create a work world where we are human first and well-being is a right, not a privilege. She built Motives Met to achieve the attainable dream of a work life well-lived for all. When asked about her proudest moments, Kelly would tell you it was standing at the top of Mount Kilimanjaro in Africa and at Mount Everest Base Camp. Hailing from sunny San Diego, California, you can often find her soaking up a sunset, playing beach volleyball, or sparring in the boxing ring.
Check out all of the podcasts in the HCI Podcast Network!
Check out the HCI Academy: Courses, Micro-Credentials, and Certificates to Upskill and Reskill for the Future of Work!
Check out the LinkedIn Alchemizing Human Capital Newsletter.
Check out Dr. Westover's book, The Future Leader.
Check out Dr. Westover's book, 'Bluer than Indigo' Leadership.
Check out Dr. Westover's book, The Alchemy of Truly Remarkable Leadership.
Check out the latest issue of the Human Capital Leadership magazine.
Each HCI Podcast episode (Program, ID No. 655967) has been approved for 0.50 HR (General) recertification credit hours toward aPHR™, aPHRi™, PHR®, PHRca®, SPHR®, GPHR®, PHRi™ and SPHRi™ recertification through HR Certification Institute® (HRCI®).
Each HCI Podcast episode (Program ID: 24-DP529) has been approved for 0.50 HR (General) SHRM Professional Development Credits (PDCs) for SHRM-CP and SHRM-SCPHR recertification through SHRM, as part of the knowledge and competency programs related to the SHRM Body of Applied Skills and Knowledge™ (the SHRM BASK™).
Human Capital Innovations has been pre-approved by the ATD Certification Institute to offer educational programs that can be used towards initial eligibility and recertification of the Certified Professional in Talent Development (CPTD) and Associate Professional in Talent Development (APTD) credentials. Each HCI Podcast episode qualifies for a maximum of 0.50 points.

Mar 28, 2024 • 27min
S49E26 - Eliminating Unhealthy Stress, Flourishing Personally, and Creating The Good Life, with Aaron Marcum
In this podcast episode, Dr. Jonathan H. Westover talks with Aaron Marcum about eliminating unhealthy stress, flourishing personally, and creating the good life.
Aaron Marcum (https://www.linkedin.com/in/aaron-marcum/) holds a Master of Applied Positive Psychology from the University of Pennsylvania where he studied under Dr. Martin Seligman, father of the field of positive psychology. For twenty years, he successfully scaled businesses and is the recipient of top industry awards recognizing his leadership, vision, and service. He has been a sought-after national speaker since 2006 and enjoys empowering entrepreneurs to make positive changes in their personal and professional lives. His new book, "EntreThrive _ The entrepreneurs eight laws for eliminating unhealthy stress, Flourishing Personally, and creating The Good Life," will be released February 2024, by Ethos Collective Publishing. https://www.entrethrive.com/humanperformance
Check out all of the podcasts in the HCI Podcast Network!
Check out the HCI Academy: Courses, Micro-Credentials, and Certificates to Upskill and Reskill for the Future of Work!
Check out the LinkedIn Alchemizing Human Capital Newsletter.
Check out Dr. Westover's book, The Future Leader.
Check out Dr. Westover's book, 'Bluer than Indigo' Leadership.
Check out Dr. Westover's book, The Alchemy of Truly Remarkable Leadership.
Check out the latest issue of the Human Capital Leadership magazine.
Each HCI Podcast episode (Program, ID No. 655967) has been approved for 0.50 HR (General) recertification credit hours toward aPHR™, aPHRi™, PHR®, PHRca®, SPHR®, GPHR®, PHRi™ and SPHRi™ recertification through HR Certification Institute® (HRCI®).
Each HCI Podcast episode (Program ID: 24-DP529) has been approved for 0.50 HR (General) SHRM Professional Development Credits (PDCs) for SHRM-CP and SHRM-SCPHR recertification through SHRM, as part of the knowledge and competency programs related to the SHRM Body of Applied Skills and Knowledge™ (the SHRM BASK™).
Human Capital Innovations has been pre-approved by the ATD Certification Institute to offer educational programs that can be used towards initial eligibility and recertification of the Certified Professional in Talent Development (CPTD) and Associate Professional in Talent Development (APTD) credentials. Each HCI Podcast episode qualifies for a maximum of 0.50 points.

Mar 26, 2024 • 38min
S49E25 - How to Develop a Greater Understanding of One Another, with Shawn Newell
In this podcast episode, Dr. Jonathan H. Westover talks with Shawn Newell about how to develop a greater understanding of one another.
Shawn is the retired Vice President of Business Development at Industrial Supply Company where he worked for 37 years. He serves as a community integrator working as the vice president of the Salt Lake Branch of the NAACP, a former Commissioner on the Governor’s Martin Luther King, Jr. Human Rights Commission and co-chair of the Utah Black Round Table, the former co-chair of the Diversity and Inclusion Committee for the Salt Lake Chamber of Commerce. Mr. Newell formerly served on the Boards of the Utah Non-Profit Association, the Utah Manufacturer’s Association Board, as Chair of the Workforce and Economic Development Advisory Board at Salt Lake Community College where he served as the Alumni Council President and currently a Trustee Emeritus for the College. He is a former member of the Utah State Board of Education. He formerly served on the Board of Utah System of Higher Education. He now serves as a champion for the United Way promise Program network and Promise Partnership Board. Shawn serves on the Utah 3rd district Court Committee for Self-Represented Parties, as a President’s Ambassador for the Salt Lake Chamber of Commerce, Utah State Department of Workforce Services Board, Utah State Bar Commission Board, South Valley Chamber Board, Trustee at Westminster University, a member of the Third District court Office of accountability committee, the advisory committee for Unite, The University of Utah Hospital and Clinics Board, as co-chair of the Utah Multicultural Commission. Mr. Newell is currently a councilman for the city of Cottonwood Heights.
Shawn is a graduate of the University of Utah, Salt Lake Community College and has a Masters of Management degree from the University of Phoenix. He holds an Executive leadership certification from the University Of Utah School Of Business and a Diversity and Inclusion certificate from Cornell University and a Leading with Equity, Diversity, and Inclusion Certificate from the University of Utah. He has two certificates from the University of South Florida in Inclusion, Workforce and Personal Wellness Foundations and Ethical Leadership and Diversity and Inclusion in the Workplace. He is the recipient of a Honorary Doctorate. In Shawn’s spare time he officiates youth sports and BBQs great grub. Mr. Newell is married, the father of three and has seven grandchildren.
Check out all of the podcasts in the HCI Podcast Network!
Check out the HCI Academy: Courses, Micro-Credentials, and Certificates to Upskill and Reskill for the Future of Work!
Check out the LinkedIn Alchemizing Human Capital Newsletter.
Check out Dr. Westover's book, The Future Leader.
Check out Dr. Westover's book, 'Bluer than Indigo' Leadership.
Check out Dr. Westover's book, The Alchemy of Truly Remarkable Leadership.
Check out the latest issue of the Human Capital Leadership magazine.
Each HCI Podcast episode (Program, ID No. 655967) has been approved for 0.50 HR (General) recertification credit hours toward aPHR™, aPHRi™, PHR®, PHRca®, SPHR®, GPHR®, PHRi™ and SPHRi™ recertification through HR Certification Institute® (HRCI®).
Each HCI Podcast episode (Program ID: 24-DP529) has been approved for 0.50 HR (General) SHRM Professional Development Credits (PDCs) for SHRM-CP and SHRM-SCPHR recertification through SHRM, as part of the knowledge and competency programs related to the SHRM Body of Applied Skills and Knowledge™ (the SHRM BASK™).
Human Capital Innovations has been pre-approved by the ATD Certification Institute to offer educational programs that can be used towards initial eligibility and recertification of the Certified Professional in Talent Development (CPTD) and Associate Professional in Talent Development (APTD) credentials. Each HCI Podcast episode qualifies for a maximum of 0.50 points.

Mar 21, 2024 • 34min
S49E24 - Steadfast Leadership, with Dr. Randy Brazie and Dr. Geoffrey VanderPal
In this podcast episode, Dr. Jonathan H. Westover talks with Dr. Randy Brazie and Dr. Geoffrey VanderPal about steadfast leadership.
Dr. Randy Brazie, MD, SEP® (https://www.linkedin.com/in/randy-brazie-491b1398/), is the former chief medical officer for Resilient Health, an Arizona nonprofit healthcare provider of innovative multimodal services for both public and private sectors. He currently serves as a medical director for Blue Cross Blue Shield of Arizona and has a private practice. He is board-certified by the American Board of Psychiatry and Neurology in General Psychiatry and is a Somatic Experience Practitioner. Brazie has extensive experience in multiple sectors, including both clinic and hospital-based services, as well as emergency and urgent care settings.
Dr. Geoffrey VanderPal, DBA, CFP® (https://www.linkedin.com/in/gvanderpal/), Project Management Professional, Society of Human Resource Managers Senior Certified Professional, is a professor in the Master of Science in Finance program at Purdue University Global, where he teaches financial planning–related courses. He has taught at various universities on four continents in the areas of finance, leadership, and business. He also spent over twenty years as an entrepreneur founding several successful businesses and leading teams. VanderPal is the author of Invincible Investing and several dozen peer-reviewed research articles.
Check out all of the podcasts in the HCI Podcast Network!
Check out the HCI Academy: Courses, Micro-Credentials, and Certificates to Upskill and Reskill for the Future of Work!
Check out the LinkedIn Alchemizing Human Capital Newsletter.
Check out Dr. Westover's book, The Future Leader.
Check out Dr. Westover's book, 'Bluer than Indigo' Leadership.
Check out Dr. Westover's book, The Alchemy of Truly Remarkable Leadership.
Check out the latest issue of the Human Capital Leadership magazine.
Each HCI Podcast episode (Program, ID No. 655967) has been approved for 0.50 HR (General) recertification credit hours toward aPHR™, aPHRi™, PHR®, PHRca®, SPHR®, GPHR®, PHRi™ and SPHRi™ recertification through HR Certification Institute® (HRCI®).
Each HCI Podcast episode (Program ID: 24-DP529) has been approved for 0.50 HR (General) SHRM Professional Development Credits (PDCs) for SHRM-CP and SHRM-SCPHR recertification through SHRM, as part of the knowledge and competency programs related to the SHRM Body of Applied Skills and Knowledge™ (the SHRM BASK™).
Human Capital Innovations has been pre-approved by the ATD Certification Institute to offer educational programs that can be used towards initial eligibility and recertification of the Certified Professional in Talent Development (CPTD) and Associate Professional in Talent Development (APTD) credentials. Each HCI Podcast episode qualifies for a maximum of 0.50 points.

Mar 19, 2024 • 26min
S49E23 - Innovative Ways to Develop Empathy and Critical Thinking Skills as a Leader, with Melanie Bell
In this podcast episode, Dr. Jonathan H. Westover talks with Melanie Bell about innovative ways to develop empathy and critical thinking skills as a leader.
Melanie Bell (https://www.linkedin.com/in/melanieabell/) is the Co-Founder of Strategic Piece, a company that helps B2B businesses generate outstanding revenue growth by bringing together their marketing, sales, and service teams around an information-driven customer experience built on the HubSpot platform. Melanie is an active angel investor and mentors the student accelerator programs at Rice University's OwlSpark and the University of Houston's RED Labs. She was also the President of Marketing Interface, a company created in 2014 before Strategic Piece. However, she is not only about marketing; she founded Leaders Who Fiction while operating her marketing strategy and technology consulting firm. At Leaders Who Fiction, Bell is helping people acquire and develop leadership qualities through fiction reading and intellectual, business-oriented conversations centered around a selected novel.
Check out all of the podcasts in the HCI Podcast Network!
Check out the HCI Academy: Courses, Micro-Credentials, and Certificates to Upskill and Reskill for the Future of Work!
Check out the LinkedIn Alchemizing Human Capital Newsletter.
Check out Dr. Westover's book, The Future Leader.
Check out Dr. Westover's book, 'Bluer than Indigo' Leadership.
Check out Dr. Westover's book, The Alchemy of Truly Remarkable Leadership.
Check out the latest issue of the Human Capital Leadership magazine.
Each HCI Podcast episode (Program, ID No. 655967) has been approved for 0.50 HR (General) recertification credit hours toward aPHR™, aPHRi™, PHR®, PHRca®, SPHR®, GPHR®, PHRi™ and SPHRi™ recertification through HR Certification Institute® (HRCI®).
Each HCI Podcast episode (Program ID: 24-DP529) has been approved for 0.50 HR (General) SHRM Professional Development Credits (PDCs) for SHRM-CP and SHRM-SCPHR recertification through SHRM, as part of the knowledge and competency programs related to the SHRM Body of Applied Skills and Knowledge™ (the SHRM BASK™).
Human Capital Innovations has been pre-approved by the ATD Certification Institute to offer educational programs that can be used towards initial eligibility and recertification of the Certified Professional in Talent Development (CPTD) and Associate Professional in Talent Development (APTD) credentials. Each HCI Podcast episode qualifies for a maximum of 0.50 points.

Mar 14, 2024 • 27min
S49E22 - Embracing Cutting-Edge AI/Tech-Enabled Strategies to Inspire Innovators, with Larry McAlister
In this podcast episode, Dr. Jonathan H. Westover talks with Larry McAlister about embracing cutting-edge AI/tech-enabled strategies to inspire innovators.
Three-time CHRO, Larry McAlister (https://www.linkedin.com/in/larrymcalister/) is distinguished as a career-long innovator and natural-born leader in the HR space. Most recently serving as VP of Global Talent at NetApp, and named in the Top 50 Human Resources Professional Awards (OnConferences, 2021), Larry is consistently sought after to bring transformation and thought leadership — including evolving HR itself, as needed.
Check out all of the podcasts in the HCI Podcast Network!
Check out the HCI Academy: Courses, Micro-Credentials, and Certificates to Upskill and Reskill for the Future of Work!
Check out the LinkedIn Alchemizing Human Capital Newsletter.
Check out Dr. Westover's book, The Future Leader.
Check out Dr. Westover's book, 'Bluer than Indigo' Leadership.
Check out Dr. Westover's book, The Alchemy of Truly Remarkable Leadership.
Check out the latest issue of the Human Capital Leadership magazine.
Each HCI Podcast episode (Program, ID No. 655967) has been approved for 0.50 HR (General) recertification credit hours toward aPHR™, aPHRi™, PHR®, PHRca®, SPHR®, GPHR®, PHRi™ and SPHRi™ recertification through HR Certification Institute® (HRCI®).
Each HCI Podcast episode (Program ID: 24-DP529) has been approved for 0.50 HR (General) SHRM Professional Development Credits (PDCs) for SHRM-CP and SHRM-SCPHR recertification through SHRM, as part of the knowledge and competency programs related to the SHRM Body of Applied Skills and Knowledge™ (the SHRM BASK™).
Human Capital Innovations has been pre-approved by the ATD Certification Institute to offer educational programs that can be used towards initial eligibility and recertification of the Certified Professional in Talent Development (CPTD) and Associate Professional in Talent Development (APTD) credentials. Each HCI Podcast episode qualifies for a maximum of 0.50 points.

Mar 12, 2024 • 27min
S49E21 - Soul Retrieval At Work, with Cari Jacobs-Crovetto
In this podcast episode, Dr. Jonathan H. Westover talks with Cari Jacobs-Crovetto about soul retrieval at work.
Cari Jacobs-Crovetto (https://www.linkedin.com/in/carisf/) is an executive coach and advisor specializing in leadership development. After an advertising career working with Levis, P&G, and Lexus, and work with startups Sunrun and ModCloth, she pivoted towards personal growth. She is certified by UC Berkeley and coach at Stanford."
Check out all of the podcasts in the HCI Podcast Network!
Check out the HCI Academy: Courses, Micro-Credentials, and Certificates to Upskill and Reskill for the Future of Work!
Check out the LinkedIn Alchemizing Human Capital newsletter.
Check out Dr. Westover's book, The Future Leader.
Check out Dr. Westover's book, 'Bluer than Indigo' Leadership.
Check out Dr. Westover's book, The Alchemy of Truly Remarkable Leadership.
Check out the latest issue of the Human Capital Leadership magazine.
Each HCI Podcast episode (Program, ID No. 655967) has been approved for 0.50 HR (General) recertification credit hours toward aPHR™, aPHRi™, PHR®, PHRca®, SPHR®, GPHR®, PHRi™ and SPHRi™ recertification through HR Certification Institute® (HRCI®).
Each HCI Podcast episode (Program ID: 24-DP529) has been approved for 0.50 HR (General) SHRM Professional Development Credits (PDCs) for SHRM-CP and SHRM-SCPHR recertification through SHRM, as part of the knowledge and competency programs related to the SHRM Body of Applied Skills and Knowledge™ (the SHRM BASK™).
Human Capital Innovations has been pre-approved by the ATD Certification Institute to offer educational programs that can be used towards initial eligibility and recertification of the Certified Professional in Talent Development (CPTD) and Associate Professional in Talent Development (APTD) credentials. Each HCI Podcast episode qualifies for a maximum of 0.50 points.

Mar 7, 2024 • 25min
S49E20 - Gamifying and Operationalizing Workplace Culture, with Alexandra Bowden
In this podcast episode, Dr. Jonathan H. Westover talks with Alexandra Bowden about gamifying and operationalizing workplace culture.
Alexandra Bowden is a speaker, consultant, partner, educator, and advocate. She has a vision to put customer service and creativity back into the Talent equation. After a dramatic career pivot of her own, and realizing that talent can come from a multitude of places which we aren't tapping into, she founded PEOPLEfirst.
Check out all of the podcasts in the HCI Podcast Network!
Check out the HCI Academy: Courses, Micro-Credentials, and Certificates to Upskill and Reskill for the Future of Work!
Check out the LinkedIn Alchemizing Human Capital Newsletter.
Check out Dr. Westover's book, The Future Leader.
Check out Dr. Westover's book, 'Bluer than Indigo' Leadership.
Check out Dr. Westover's book, The Alchemy of Truly Remarkable Leadership.
Check out the latest issue of the Human Capital Leadership magazine.
Each HCI Podcast episode (Program, ID No. 655967) has been approved for 0.50 HR (General) recertification credit hours toward aPHR™, aPHRi™, PHR®, PHRca®, SPHR®, GPHR®, PHRi™ and SPHRi™ recertification through HR Certification Institute® (HRCI®).
Each HCI Podcast episode (Program ID: 24-DP529) has been approved for 0.50 HR (General) SHRM Professional Development Credits (PDCs) for SHRM-CP and SHRM-SCPHR recertification through SHRM, as part of the knowledge and competency programs related to the SHRM Body of Applied Skills and Knowledge™ (the SHRM BASK™).
Human Capital Innovations has been pre-approved by the ATD Certification Institute to offer educational programs that can be used towards initial eligibility and recertification of the Certified Professional in Talent Development (CPTD) and Associate Professional in Talent Development (APTD) credentials. Each HCI Podcast episode qualifies for a maximum of 0.50 points.

Mar 5, 2024 • 25min
S49E19 - The Need for Technology Apprenticeship Programs, with Jennifer Carlson
In this podcast episode, Dr. Jonathan H. Westover talks with Jennifer Carlson about the need for technology apprenticeship programs.
Jennifer Carlson (https://www.linkedin.com/in/jennifer-carlson-she-her-99838b2/) serves as Co-Founder and Executive Director of Apprenti. Apprenti is a non nonprofit organization that creates alternative pathways to access tech talent and help organizations address digital skills shortages, while providing economic mobility to underrepresented groups by identifying, training, and placing diverse talent in tech careers. Additionally, Jennifer serves on the Tech Councils of North America (TECNA) workforce board and as an Adjunct Professor in Graduate Studies at Seattle University.
Check out all of the podcasts in the HCI Podcast Network!
Check out the HCI Academy: Courses, Micro-Credentials, and Certificates to Upskill and Reskill for the Future of Work!
Check out the LinkedIn Alchemizing Human Capital Newsletter.
Check out Dr. Westover's book, The Future Leader.
Check out Dr. Westover's book, 'Bluer than Indigo' Leadership.
Check out Dr. Westover's book, The Alchemy of Truly Remarkable Leadership.
Check out the latest issue of the Human Capital Leadership magazine.
Each HCI Podcast episode (Program, ID No. 655967) has been approved for 0.50 HR (General) recertification credit hours toward aPHR™, aPHRi™, PHR®, PHRca®, SPHR®, GPHR®, PHRi™ and SPHRi™ recertification through HR Certification Institute® (HRCI®).
Each HCI Podcast episode (Program ID: 24-DP529) has been approved for 0.50 HR (General) SHRM Professional Development Credits (PDCs) for SHRM-CP and SHRM-SCPHR recertification through SHRM, as part of the knowledge and competency programs related to the SHRM Body of Applied Skills and Knowledge™ (the SHRM BASK™).
Human Capital Innovations has been pre-approved by the ATD Certification Institute to offer educational programs that can be used towards initial eligibility and recertification of the Certified Professional in Talent Development (CPTD) and Associate Professional in Talent Development (APTD) credentials. Each HCI Podcast episode qualifies for a maximum of 0.50 points.
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