

Incumbents and Insurgents in Healthcare
with Eric Larsen
Incumbents and Insurgents, sponsored by TowerBrook Capital Partners, is a candid series about the collision - and collaboration - between healthcare and technology. Hosted by Eric Larsen, President of the TowerBrook Healthcare Institute, the show explores how incumbent healthcare organizations are adopting AI, how tech insurgents are challenging entrenched models, and what it will take to improve outcomes while bending the cost curve.
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Jan 6, 2026 • 54min
Dario Amodei
Dario Amodei, Co-founder and CEO of Anthropic, discusses the intersection of AI and healthcare. He highlights the rapid advancements in AI and how healthcare's inherent labor intensity makes it vulnerable. Dario shares a personal story of AI acting as a clinical second opinion in detecting infections and delves into automating administrative tasks to combat clinician burnout. He emphasizes the need for healthcare leaders to adapt to new workflows, regulatory changes, and the evolving role of humans as AI takes on routine tasks.

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Dec 18, 2025 • 1h 13min
Vinod Khosla
Vinod Khosla, founder of Khosla Ventures, is a venture capitalist renowned for his insights on AI and healthcare. He discusses how AI can disrupt healthcare by democratizing expertise and cutting administrative overhead. Khosla emphasizes the potential for AI to expand clinical capacity through ‘AI interns’ and explores its impact on mental health delivery. He also raises concerns about the U.S. potentially falling behind in AI healthcare advancements, urging for standards and regulatory measures to ensure safety and efficacy.

Aug 7, 2025 • 1h
Eugene Woods and Bret Taylor
Bret Taylor, Co-founder of Sierra and Chairman of OpenAI, talks with Eugene Woods, CEO of Advocate Health, about the transformative power of AI in healthcare. They discuss how generative AI is reducing administrative burdens and enhancing patient safety. The duo emphasizes the importance of cultural alignment between traditional health systems and new tech innovators. They explore the potential of AI tools like ChatGPT to democratize healthcare expertise and the necessity for collaboration to foster meaningful change in the industry.

Aug 7, 2025 • 15min
Introducing Incumbents and Insurgents
Ian Sacks, Managing Partner of TowerBrook Capital Partners, and Eric Larsen, President of TowerBrook Advisors, introduce Incumbents and Insurgents.


