

Boston Public Radio Podcast
WGBH Educational Foundation
Join hosts Jim Braude and Margery Eagan for a smart local conversation with leaders and thinkers shaping Boston and New England. We feature our favorite conversation from each show. To hear the full show, please visit wgbhnews.org/bpr To share your opinion, email bpr@wgbh.org or call or text 877-301-8970 during the live broadcast from 11AM-2PM Monday through Friday.
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Apr 27, 2023 • 2h 44min
BPR Full Show 4/27: AI Music
Three famous media figures have been let go from their networks all falling from grace over how they treated, and talked about, women at their companies. Is the me-too movement still alive? We opened the lines to hear from listeners.
Chuck Todd on the latest political headlines.
Andrea Cabral weighs in on the E. Jean Carrol trial, also an SJC ruling on faulty breathalyzer tests, and more.
Andy Ihnatko talks AI in music (fake Drake) and politics (Republicans), plus Apple’s new classical music streaming app, and the various state legislators trying to crack down on kids’ social media use.
Christopher Muther recounts his trip to Medellin, talks about the best tasting drinks to order on a plane, that new big red building at Logan Airport and fly fishing in Arlington, Vermont.
Nancy Gertner on her recent op-ed for the Globe about Trump-era judges… she’ll also cover ethics on the Supreme Court, their ruling on mifepristone, and the E. Jean Carroll trial.
We ended the show by asking listeners what a meaningful protest looks like.

Apr 26, 2023 • 2h 44min
BPR Full Show 4/26: Reclaiming Satan
Today on Boston Public Radio:
Can helicopter parenting stunt your child’s independence? We opened the lines to discuss.
Medical ethicist Art Caplan discussed the states restricting gender treatment for transgender adults; and the Florida surgeon general altering key findings on a study on COVID vaccine safety.
National security expert Juliette Kayyem discussed Tucker Carlson’s extremism and the latest on fighting in Sudan.
Tibisay Zea, host of GBH and El Planeta’s Spanish-language podcast “Salud,” discussed the show’s second season.
Lucien Greaves, co-founder and spokesperson for the Satanic Temple, discussed Boston’s SatanCon, taking place this weekend.
Naturalist and author Sy Montgomery discussed sentient bees, crying plants, and parrots who learned to video chat with each other to stave off loneliness.
We ended the show hearing from listeners about the strange world of online comments sections.

Apr 25, 2023 • 2h 44min
BPR Full Show 4/25: The End of Tucker and Tupperware?
Brian Stelter, a Special Correspondent at Vanity Fair, joined on zoom to discuss the departures of Tucker Carlson from Fox and Don Lemon from CNN.
Then, we opened the phone lines to get listener’s reactions to the news. Do these firings mark a shift in media ahead of the 2024 election, or are we navel gazing?
NBC Sports Boston anchor and reporter Trenni Casey discussed the NBA getting serious on mental health; Aaron Rodgers going to the Jets; and the latest from the Bs and Cs playoffs.
Richard Taylor, former vice president of development at FMR properties and Darryl Settles, president of Catalyst Ventures Development, joined to discuss the redevelopment of Nubian Square and a new investment fund to close the racial wealth gap in Boston.
Miles O’Brien, producer, director and host of NOVA’s "Chasing Carbon Zero" (premiering April 26 on PBS) joins with Yet-Ming Chiang, a materials science and engineering professor at MIT.
Peter Lynch, who formerly managed the Magellan Fund at Fidelity Investments, joined to discuss an upcoming auction to raise awareness and support for the Catholic schools in the Boston Diocese.
CNN’s John King joined on zoom for the latest political headlines.
Tupperware warned it could go out of business after more than 70 decades. How could a brand name so ubiquitous go under? Where will we store our gazpacho now?! Or, like Margery, are you hopeful this may bring about an environmentally friendly, plastic-less future? We asked listeners to call in.

Apr 25, 2023 • 23min
'Dope Labs' are creating a new film with Boston’s Museum of Science
"Dope Labs" is a podcast that mixes “hardcore science with pop culture and a healthy dose of friendship." For hosts (and friends) Titi Shodiya and Zakiya Whatley, the goal is to make science appealing, and visible, to everyone.
“One of the things that’s really important for Zakiya and I, is bringing science to the people,” said Shodiya on Boston Public Radio on Monday. That idea is the driving force behind a feature length planetarium film in development by "Dope Labs" and Boston’s Museum of Science. The film will feature stories and scientific contributions of BIPOC scientists who audiences may not have heard about before. Funding for the film will come from NASA and the Simons Foundation.
Shodiya, a materials scientist and engineer, and Whatley, a molecular biologist, created "Dope Labs" in 2019. The two met in graduate school while getting their respective Ph.D.s at Duke University. In a nod to their academic background, seasons of the podcast are called “semesters,” episodes are called “labs” and each show begins with a “recitation.”
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But topics are far from technical and dry. "Dope Labs" digs into a range of topics from the material and social science of shapewear, to a two-part episode on maternal health.
“Let us find what you’re already interested in and tell you about the history of this … We’re just showing people that we’re engaging with science everyday, all the time. And it’s in places that you might not think about,” said Whatley.
Whatley and Shodiya are not discouraged by the political polarization of science. They’ve done episodes on COVID-19 vaccines, birth control and even science denial. Some people’s minds may never be changed about a science topic, said Shodiya. But for those people who want to learn more about what is true, "Dope Labs" is there. “The work that we do on 'Dope Labs' is to give them a resource with friendly voices that are going to talk to them and meet them right where they are,” she said.
Part of meeting people where they’re at includes showing audiences there are “many ways to be involved in STEM that don’t require you to get a Ph.D.,” said Whatley. “And that’s what we hope to shed light on with this film.”
"Dope Labs" wrapped its fourth season in October 2022. The fifth “semester” is currently in pre-production with a launch date to be announced. People can listen to past episodes on all podcast platforms.

Apr 24, 2023 • 2h 44min
BPR Full Show 4/24: Let's Have a Moment of Science
Today on Boston Public Radio:
It’s clear our government is becoming increasingly anti-majoritarian and we opened the lines for listeners to react.
Betty Francisco, chief executive of the Boston Impact Initiative, a nonprofit fund manager, joined to discuss equity in capital investments/entrepreneurship.
Scientists Titi Shodaya and Zakiya Whatley are co-hosts of the “Dope Labs” podcast, aimed to bring science to everybody. They joined the show to discuss what they do, their partnership with the Museum of Science and announced that season 5 is in the works.
Poet Richard Blanco examined the “Ars Poetica” – art of poetry, through ars poetica poems, examining the role of poets themselves and the act of writing.
The Revs discussed a push for the Catholic church to respond to the mental health crisis in teens; Muslim students at a college in NY calling for adequate prayer space; and a Texas bill that would require the Ten Commandments be posted in public school classrooms.
We re-aired a conversation with singer and song-writer Arlo Guthrie. He was promoting an event at the Boch Schubert Center but you can still get tickets to the exhibit on his life and career at the Folk Americana Roots Hall of Fame.
Our show wrapped up by asking listeners how far is too far when it comes to commuting. Some can handle two hours, some can’t handle forty minutes. So what did our listeners have to say?

Apr 21, 2023 • 2h 44min
BPR Full Show 4/21: Legacy of Eric Jackson
Today on Boston Public Radio:
Various headlines are circulating on the issue of affordable housing in Boston. From rent control to building housing on top of libraries, we asked listeners to share their thoughts.
John Valverde is the CEO of YouthBuild USA, a nonprofit offering counseling and job training for young adults. He discussed the organization and how they’re addressing, among other thing, youth violence in schools.
Segun Oduolowu hosts the Boston Globe Today on NESN, which debuted this week. He reflected on his first week and the importance of being the face of the show.
Sue O’Connell talked about the racist policing incident that occurred on Marathon Monday in Newton, the mysterious disappearance of Twitter blue-checks, the expansion of don’t-say-gay in Florida, that exploding SpaceX rocket, and MTG getting silenced at a GOP-led committee hearing.
Bonnie Heiple is commissioner of the Mass. Department of Environmental Protection, she talked about what she does and how it’s going ahead of Earth Day tomorrow.
Live Music Friday this week is Jazz Boston president Ken Field, guitarist John Stein and GBH General Manager Anthony Rudel. They’ve got a concert on the Sunday after next honoring the life and legacy of Eric Jackson, they played some music in his honor.
We ended the show with the comforting topics of rats. We asked listeners to text and call us to share experiences they’ve had with rats.

Apr 20, 2023 • 20min
Corby Kummer: Is Ice Cream Healthy?
Five years ago, a Harvard doctoral student named Andres Ardisson Korat conducted a study that came to an unexpected conclusion. He found that eating half a cup of ice cream a day was associated with a lower risk of heart problems among diabetics. In other words — it showed eating ice cream as good for you.
“If you have ice cream, you are at less risk of developing diabetes and researchers could not explain it away,” said food writer Corby Kummer on Boston Public Radio.
Many researchers couldn’t give a rebuttal to the old wives’ tale on ice cream being healthy, even after throughly analyzing studies from over 20 years ago.
The Atlantic story takes on the beloved treat of ice cream and while it is not typically considered a "healthy" food, it is evident that ice cream in moderation and as part of a balanced diet is unlikely to have a significant negative impact on a person’s health. Whether it actively increases the health of a person is a debate.
“The story in our beloved Atlantic was really good and provocative. It was [examining] what researchers do when they see an obviously robust result they can’t filter out. They can’t change the controls to make it [the results] go away. And in this case, it was that eating ice cream, I think it was three times a week ... you’re welcome to do it,” Kummer said.
Kummer himself could not give a direct answer on whether or not ice cream is healthy and quoted Dariush Mozaffarian, the dean of policy at Tufts' nutrition school, where he said that if ice cream had been a patented drug, “you can bet that the company would have done a $30 million randomized control trial to see if ice cream prevents diabetes.”
He gives praise to the Atlantic story and said it’s a great example of “what it is like to try to produce meaningful nutritional research results when there are so few randomized controlled trials, and there’s so little money to do it.”
At the moment, there isn’t a concrete answer. But regardless, Kummer plans to go to Toscanini’s in Cambridge and said you should too.
“That’s the place to have it 3 times a week.”
Corby Kummer is executive director of the Food and Society policy program at the Aspen Institute, a senior editor at The Atlantic and senior lecturer at the Tufts Friedman School of Nutrition Science and Policy. He's a regular guest on Boston Public Radio.

Apr 20, 2023 • 2h 45min
BPR Full Show 4/20: Fox News' Radicalized Audience
Today on Boston Public Radio:
NBC’s Chuck Todd on the latest political headlines.
There have been a string of tragic shootings that happened recently and we opened the lines for listeners to share their thoughts on cases like Ralph Yarl’s and Kaylin Gillis'.
Medical ethicist Art Caplan discusses additional COVID boosters approved by the FDA; Black pregnant women being tested more frequently for drug use; and retaining access to abortion pills by off-label prescribing.
Jared Bowen discusses comedian Alex Edelman’s stand-up special ‘Just For Us’; Wild Life film about Patagonia’s founders; and My Fair Lady at Broadway in Boston.
Food policy analyst Corby Kummer discusses New Yorkers converting their food waste into home energy through curbside composting; and studies showing a mysterious health benefit to ice cream.
Brian McCreath, Brian O’Donovan, and James Bennett II join for a local music events panel.
Our show wrapped up by taking calls and texts on 4/20. We wanted to know how people’s relationship with marijuana has changed in the years since its legalization in Massachusetts.

Apr 19, 2023 • 2h 44min
BPR Full Show 4/19: The Satisfaction of Dumping Stuff
Marichka Padalko is a Ukrainian journalist who just ran the Boston Marathon, fundraising for Sunflower of Peace, a local US non-profit that provides humanitarian aid and medical supplies to Ukrainians.
Fox News settled with Dominion Voting Systems, giving the company $787 million. We opened the phone lines to ask listeners how they feel. Were they looking forward to a trial, or was monetary justice enough?
National security expert Juliette Kayyem discussed Fox News’ settlement with Dominion Voting Systems, the shooting death of Ralph Yarl by an 84-year-old man and the leak of classified documents by Jack Teixeira.
EPA regional administrators David Cash and Daniel Blackman discussed new EPA pollution limits aimed at promoting electric vehicle sales, dramatic rising sea levels along the Eastern seaboard, and money to help small communities protect their water systems.
Stephen Hammond is a descendent of enslaved families who lived at Arlington House, now the site of the Robert E. Lee memorial. Susan Glisson is a historian and founder of The Glisson Group, a consulting firm focused on reconciliation around civil rights issues. Both will be at an April 22 event, where members of Robert E. Lee’s family and descendants of people enslaved by the Lee’s will join together in conversation at the Arlington House.
Senator Ed Markey joined to discuss his renewed effort with Rep. Ayanna Pressley to end qualified immunity. We also asked him about his experience at Mel King’s funeral and how his staff navigated unionization, the first Senate staff to do so.
Spring is here. We asked listeners to share their spring cleaning rituals and learned that Jim loves dumping stuff.

Apr 18, 2023 • 2h 44min
BPR Full Show 4/18: Tax Day
Today on Boston Public Radio:
David Leonard, president of the Boston Public Library, joined briefly at the top of the show to discuss Boston’s plan for housing units attached to some public library branches.
It’s Tax Day. So we asked naturally asked listeners if they cheat on their taxes. Not many admitted to it but there was enough discussion that someone shared that they already served time for it.
Trenni Casey, anchor/reporter for NBC Sports Boston, recapped the Marathon results and the Bruins success in Game 1 of the playoffs.
Lauren Cook is CEO of Ellis Early Learning, early childhood education provider in the South End. Amy O’Leary is executive director at Strategies for Children, a statewide advocacy group. They talked about the child care crisis, from labor shortages to funding.
Lehrhaus Tavern is now open in Somerville, a tavern and learning space for Jewish culture. Co-founder Rabbi Charlie Schwartz and executive chef Noah Clickstein joined at the BPL (with snacks).
Boston Globe’s Marcela Garcia discussed a new Spanish-language conservative media network; and her reporting on an undocumented worker case in Maine involving a Mass. company.
CNN’s John King joins via zoom for the latest political headlines.
We wrapped up the show by debating whether or not AI generated art is in fact art.