Hell Money

In this episode of the Hell Money Podcast, we deliver a cosmic market update from the depths of tariff uncertainty, then discuss the opcode everyone’s frothing at the mouth over: OP_CAT. What is OP_CAT? What does it unlock for Bitcoin? And should it even happen?We explore:- AI and telepathy in the Age of Aquarius- Tariffs and a cosmic market update- Finding decentralized truth in the Akashic Records- Explaining the basics of OP_CAT- How OP_CAT could enable powerful primitives like vaults, covenants, and turing completeness- Whether or not OP_CAT belongs in BitcoinGet bonus content by subscribing to @hellmoneypod on X: https://x.com/hellmoneypod/creator-subscriptions/subscribeOr support the podcast by sending a BTC donation: bc1qztncp7lmcxdgude4px2vzh72p2yu2aud0eyzys 10% OFF INSCRIBING VEGAS: https://pretix.eu/inscribing/vegas/redeem?voucher=HELLMONEY10% OFF BITCOIN 2025: https://tickets.b.tc/code/inscribing/event/bitcoin-2025ORDINALS PROTOCOL SHIRT: https://shop.inscribing.com/products/ordinals-protocol-shirtTIMESTAMPS:0:00 Intro & AI Telepathy8:00 Tariffs & Cosmic Market Update43:00 The Akashic Records, Decentralized Truth, & Randonauting51:45 OP_CAT54:15 Turing machines & completeness1:00:00 Uses for OP_CAT1:13:30 Rijndael's Taplocks1:18:00 Outro

Today we’re joined by dear friend of the pod Matt Wraith, CTO of Bitnomial, a Bitcoin futures and derivatives exchange. What starts as a conversation about Bitcoin futures and derivatives trading quickly spirals into a philosophical exploration of financial abstraction, capitalism, and the physical reality of money itself.We cover:- How Bitcoin futures and derivatives work- Good and bad abstraction in financialization- Self regulation in complex economic systems- Matt's journey from physics to Bitcoin- Why money should be expensive and useless- Ordinals, Runes, and Inscriptions derivativesGet bonus content by subscribing to @hellmoneypod on X: https://x.com/hellmoneypod/creator-subscriptions/subscribeOr support the podcast by sending a BTC donation: bc1qztncp7lmcxdgude4px2vzh72p2yu2aud0eyzys 10% OFF INSCRIBING VEGAS: https://pretix.eu/inscribing/vegas/redeem?voucher=HELLMONEY10% OFF BITCOIN 2025: https://tickets.b.tc/code/inscribing/event/bitcoin-2025ORDINALS PROTOCOL SHIRT: https://shop.inscribing.com/products/ordinals-protocol-shirtFOLLOW MATT: https://x.com/wraith_mFOLLOW BITNOMIAL: https://x.com/BitnomialLEARN MORE ABOUT BITNOMIAL: https://bitnomial.com/BOTANICAL.FINANCE: https://botanical.finance/FOLLOW HELL MONEY PODCAST:→ HMP: https://x.com/hellmoneypod→ Casey: https://x.com/rodarmor→ Erin: https://x.com/realizingerin→ Podcast Links: ⁠https://hell.money/⁠TIMESTAMPS:0:00 Intro, the Friedman family, SF Bitdevs11:00 Bitnomial: Bitcoin futures & options13:30 How do futures work?18:00 Bitcoin futures21:00 Matt's history with Bitcoin & Bitnomial28:40 Bitcoin derivatives, futures, options, & risk36:00 Oil futures went negative in 202039:00 Complicated economic systems self regulating44:00 21st century economic experiments49:50 Matt's academic history, physics of metals1:01:00 Chicago & the commodities industry1:04:00 Bitcoin futures are a necessary part of institutional adoption1:10:00 Derivatives, financial abstraction, & market stability1:15:00 Investors fund the future, our rigged economic system1:23:00 We need more economic/political experiments1:24:30 Matt's journey to Bitcoin1:30:00 Bitcoin is a tether between digital and physical reality1:35:00 Money should be useless and expensive1:38:00 We don't know everything that Bitcoin can do1:41:30 Instantaneous money transfer1:44:30 Stablecoins on Runes1:46:30 Ordinals, Runes, & Inscriptions futures1:51:00 Trading Places, people are not fungible1:59:00 Outro

In this episode of the Hell Money Podcast, Casey Rodarmor explains ORD 1.0: the final, stable version of the Ordinals Protocol. What does it mean for Ordinals to be "finished"? Is this really the end? And what comes next?We explore:- The history of Ordinals from pre-release chaos to beta and now 1.0- What changes in ORD 1.0, including wallet refactors and error handling- Galleries and attributes—bringing legacy collections fully on-chain- Agent mode and how it could revolutionize selling inscriptions and runes- The future of Ordinals, building in the bear, and why the days of easy money are overGet bonus content by subscribing to @hellmoneypod on X: https://x.com/hellmoneypod/creator-subscriptions/subscribeOr support the podcast by sending a BTC donation: bc1qztncp7lmcxdgude4px2vzh72p2yu2aud0eyzys 10% OFF INSCRIBING VEGAS: https://pretix.eu/inscribing/vegas/redeem?voucher=HELLMONEY10% OFF BITCOIN 2025: https://tickets.b.tc/code/inscribing/event/bitcoin-2025ORDINALS PROTOCOL SHIRT: https://shop.inscribing.com/products/ordinals-protocol-shirtFOLLOW HELL MONEY PODCAST:→ HMP: https://x.com/hellmoneypod→ Casey: https://x.com/rodarmor→ Erin: https://x.com/realizingerin→ Podcast Links: ⁠https://hell.money/⁠TIMESTAMPS0:00 Intro & alpha vs. beta. vs 1.05:05 What is ord 1.0? Ord wallet & technical debt13:10 Alpha on HMP subs-only spaces & shilling18:50 Galleries vs. Parent-Child24:14 Legacy collections migrating to galleries26:00 Galleries for curation28:30 Attributes33:00 Why don't marketplaces index parent-child inscriptions?34:00 Schema of attributes40:30: Agent mode & policies for selling inscriptions & runes52:00: Smart contracts suck, ByBit hack, multisigs on Ethereum aren't real58:00: Agent mode for selling Runes (getting around lot splitting)1:04:00: If you want to make money, try creating value1:08:30: The future of the Ordinals ecosystem

In this episode of the Hell Money Podcast, we sit down with Dan Anderson (@droplister), a self-described "internet nobody" with deep roots in crypto-native culture. Dan shares his journey from the early days of Bitcoin, Counterparty, and Rare Pepes, and the history of NFT experiments on Bitcoin. We explore: - The origins of Counterparty and its impact on Bitcoin and crypto culture - The history of NFT and token experiments on Bitcoin - Ethereum's ICO and smart contracts on Bitcoin - Rare Pepe Science - Counterparty 2.0Get bonus content by subscribing to @hellmoneypod on X: https://x.com/hellmoneypod/creator-subscriptions/subscribeOr support the podcast by sending a BTC donation: bc1qztncp7lmcxdgude4px2vzh72p2yu2aud0eyzys FOLLOW DAN ANDERSON: https://x.com/droplister10% OFF INSCRIBING VEGAS: https://pretix.eu/inscribing/vegas/redeem?voucher=HELLMONEY10% OFF BITCOIN VEGAS: https://tickets.b.tc/code/inscribing/event/bitcoin-2025ORDINALS PROTOCOL SHIRT: https://shop.inscribing.com/products/ordinals-protocol-shirtFOLLOW HELL MONEY PODCAST:→ HMP: https://x.com/hellmoneypod→ Casey: https://x.com/rodarmor→ Erin: https://x.com/realizingerin→ Podcast Links: ⁠https://hell.money/⁠TIMESTAMPS: 0:00 Intro & Dan's early inscriptions 6:25 Dan's journey to Bitcoin (and why he never went full Ethereum) 12:58 Counterparty (XCP), Rare Pepes, and the emergence of crypto-native culture 16:25 Counterparty's fair launch via Bitcoin burn 20:00 Namecoin & Mastercoin launches, OP_RETURN 24:30 Stamps vs. Ordinal Inscriptions 27:30 Mastercoin, Tether, & Colored Coins 33:00 Ordinals as an improvement on colored coins 36:30 Counterparty founding & design 38:30 Ethereum's ICO and influence from Counterparty 41:00 Smart contracts on Bitcoin vs Ethereum 43:00 What do people want to do with Bitcoin and digital assets? 51:00 Tether, Omni, hard forks, & the risk of economic nodes controlling protocols 57:15 Early Counterparty token experiments 59:30 The success of Ordinals 1:02:00 The value of simplicity in development 1:03:00 Spells of Genesis, Rare Pepe origins 1:05:00 Rare Pepe Scientists, certifications for rare vs. fake pepes 1:08:50 "NFT" was a term invented by lawyers 1:11:00 Pepe as a symbol for the collective unconscious 1:13:00 Migration from Counterparty to Ethereum, the success of NFTs 1:18:00 The timing of Ordinals' success 1:23:40 The future of Counterparty & Counterparty 2.0 1:32:00 Community-driven curation in meme culture 1:35:10 Bitcoin Uncensored foreshadowing the breakup of Hell Money Podcast 1:39:00 Casey's egregious digital footprint 1:40:00 The Dan Files & closing remarks

It's our Valentine's Day special! Answering love and relationship questions from the degens ❤️Get bonus content by subscribing to @hellmoneypod on X: https://x.com/hellmoneypod/creator-subscriptions/subscribeOr support the podcast by sending a BTC donation: bc1qztncp7lmcxdgude4px2vzh72p2yu2aud0eyzys 10% OFF INSCRIBING VEGAS: https://pretix.eu/inscribing/vegas/redeem?voucher=HELLMONEYORDINALS PROTOCOL SHIRT: https://shop.inscribing.com/products/ordinals-protocol-shirtFOLLOW HELL MONEY PODCAST:→ HMP: https://x.com/hellmoneypod→ Casey: https://x.com/rodarmor→ Erin: https://x.com/realizingerin→ Podcast Links: ⁠https://hell.money/⁠TIMESTAMPS:00:00 Intro5:08 Mom cheating on Dad9:03 Heroin addict17:13 Are happy endings cheating?25:55 4megger for Valentine's Day28:18 Getting back into early relationship vibe in a long term relationship41:08 Sex in a long term relationship46:14 Creativity and romance in a long term relationship51:45 Polyamorous relationships59:17 When to share your Bitcoin seed phrase?1:02:30 Gay tendencies1:08:36 Is it important to have kids?1:15:45 Financial split in a committed relationship1:26:30 Casey and Erin's relationship status1:31:45 Proposal to Erin

The political vibe shift is happening – and Bitcoin is at the center of it. In this episode, we dive deep into: ✅ The Trump win & its impact on Bitcoin & crypto regulation ✅ How political power shifts affect financial freedom ✅ Elon Musk, Mark Zuckerberg & Big Tech’s political influence ✅ The changing cultural landscape & Overton Window ✅ What Bitcoiners need to prepare for NOW Get bonus content by subscribing to @hellmoneypod on X: https://x.com/hellmoneypod/creator-subscriptions/subscribe Or support the podcast by sending a BTC donation: bc1qztncp7lmcxdgude4px2vzh72p2yu2aud0eyzys 10% OFF INSCRIBING VEGAS: https://pretix.eu/inscribing/vegas/redeem?voucher=HELLMONEY ORDINALS PROTOCOL SHIRT: https://shop.inscribing.com/products/ordinals-protocol-shirt FOLLOW HELL MONEY PODCAST: → HMP: https://x.com/hellmoneypod → Casey: https://x.com/rodarmor → Erin: https://x.com/realizingerin → Podcast Links: ⁠https://hell.money/⁠ TIMESTAMPS: 0:00 Intro 5:27 Trump presidency vibe shift 9:31 Leftist and Bay Area politics 16:42 Left vs. right overton window 25:50 Bitcoin under Trump administration 42:01 Strategic Bitcoin Reserve 1:00:13 Tech oligarchy political influence 1:06:39 Mark Zuckerberg 1:19:44 Elon Musk & X 1:23:32 Crony capitalism & libertarianism 1:28:07 Future predictions

Discussing crypto policy under the Trump administration, how the US government getting involved effects Bitcoin, and where we're headed from here. Get bonus content by subscribing to @hellmoneypod on X: https://x.com/hellmoneypod/creator-subscriptions/subscribe Or support the podcast by sending a BTC donation: bc1qztncp7lmcxdgude4px2vzh72p2yu2aud0eyzys   FOLLOW DAVID BAILEY: https://x.com/DavidFBailey 10% OFF INSCRIBING VEGAS: https://pretix.eu/inscribing/vegas/redeem?voucher=HELLMONEY 10% OFF BITCOIN VEGAS: https://tickets.b.tc/code/inscribing/event/bitcoin-2025 ORDINALS PROTOCOL SHIRT: https://shop.inscribing.com/products/ordinals-protocol-shirt FOLLOW HELL MONEY PODCAST: → HMP: https://x.com/hellmoneypod → Casey: https://x.com/rodarmor → Erin: https://x.com/realizingerin → Podcast Links: ⁠https://hell.money/⁠ TIMESTAMPS: 00:00 Intro 07:15 Bitcoin soft forks 11:00 Bitcoin vs. Crypto in US policy 19:20 How much political power does Bitcoin have? 23:50 Bitcoiners are politically homeless 26:20 Strategic Bitcoin reserve 29:00 Bitcoin development and ossification 32:00 Separation of money and state 33:40 Raise your time preference 35:20 SBR as a way out of USD global reserve status 41:00 Will they eventually fight us? 43:00 Incentives as a political movement 46:30 What happens next? 49:15 Bitcoin Vegas & Inscribing Vegas 2025

JEREMY RUBIN RETURNS... for his annual vibe check on Bitcoin development, and the evolving art of soft forking Bitcoin. Get bonus content by subscribing to @hellmoneypod on X: https://x.com/hellmoneypod/creator-subscriptions/subscribe Or support the podcast by sending a BTC donation: bc1qztncp7lmcxdgude4px2vzh72p2yu2aud0eyzys FOLLOW HELL MONEY PODCAST: → HMP: https://x.com/hellmoneypod → Casey: https://x.com/rodarmor → Erin: https://x.com/realizingerin → Podcast Links: ⁠https://hell.money/⁠ TIMESTAMPS: 0:00 Intro 1:35 What is Jeremy doing now?? 4:45 Bitcoin L2s 17:40 How hard is Jeremy working?? 23:20 VR has been an absolute fuckin flop 25:10 Rubin year in review 32:17 Bitcoin Soft forks 33:44 Covenants without a soft fork change? 39:50 Runes 50:40 Stablecoins on Bitcoin 54:35 Erin's soft fork vibe check 59:16 OP_CAT and use of human capital 1:01:45 Bitcoin script 1:08:35 Ethereum vs. Bitcoin block production 1:13:20 Solana and global state 1:15:45 Predictions for Bitcoin soft forks 1:17:40 Could OP_CAT happen in 2025? 1:20:30 Casey's opinions on Bitcoin soft forks 1:22:22 How to soft fork Bitcoin 1:29:00 Overall 2025 predictions & outro

It's time for the best episode of the year: 2025 Astrology Predictions Get bonus content by subscribing to @hellmoneypod on X: ⁠https://x.com/hellmoneypod/creator-su... Or support the podcast by sending a BTC donation: bc1qztncp7lmcxdgude4px2vzh72p2yu2aud0eyzys BOOK A 2025 ASTROLOGY READING: https://ephemera.gallery/ FOLLOW HELL MONEY PODCAST: → HMP: https://x.com/hellmoneypod → Casey: https://x.com/rodarmor → Erin: https://x.com/realizingerin → Podcast Links: ⁠https://hell.money/⁠ TIMESTAMPS: 0:00 Intro 3:00 Methodology & history of Astrology 20:40 Reviewing 2024 predictions 30:13 End of Democracy & Consolidation of power around Trump 40:40 March 2025 pivotal moment for Trump 48:00 Civil War energies 50:45 Aliens & UFOs 51:55 Bitcoin 2025 predictions 57:40 Trump Presidency predictions 59:55 Are we going to zero? 1:03:00 Ordinals 2025 predictions 1:03:45 Advice for 2025 1:04:40 Pluto in Aquarius themes 1:08:14 Astrology readings for Ephemera holders 1:09:34 Casey's 2025 astrology 1:16:02 Outro

But now we're back 😉 Get bonus content by subscribing to @hellmoneypod on X: https://x.com/hellmoneypod/creator-subscriptions/subscribe Or support the podcast by sending a BTC donation: bc1qztncp7lmcxdgude4px2vzh72p2yu2aud0eyzys   FOLLOW HELL MONEY PODCAST: → HMP: https://x.com/hellmoneypod → Casey: https://x.com/rodarmor → Erin: https://x.com/realizingerin → Podcast Links: https://hell.money/ TIMESTAMPS: 0:00 Patreon booted our ass 9:10 #Bitcoin fixes this eventually 15:10 Memento Mori airdrop 17:50 Thank you @lifofifo 22:50 What’s next for Hell Money 25:19 Ordinals Meetup 28:00 Casey and the ord code base 32:13 Skull Puzzle 43:42 Parent/Child 48:11 New improvements to ord 50:00 Another skull puzzle??? 53:20 Election predictions