Hell Money

On our spooky Halloween special, we're suiting up as Taylor Swift and Travis Kelce to talk about the new phase of Bitcoin where everyone is copying Michael Saylor and calling it a strategy.We dive into Bitcoin treasury companies, yield chasing, and asking the spooky questions: can anyone actually reproduce Saylor’s results, or is this the end of the corporate Bitcoin era?Topics discussed:- How traditional finance bros are engineering yield on Bitcoin- Michael Saylor’s Strategy- Why guilt is a sin (and yield might be too)- The “Great Script Restoration” BIP and the possible end of 4 meggers- The existential crisis of making a Bitcoin podcast when everyone just wants bullish hopium- And Seasonal Runes??Get bonus content by subscribing to @hellmoneypod on X: https://x.com/hellmoneypod/creator-subscriptions/subscribeOr support the podcast by sending a BTC donation: bc1qztncp7lmcxdgude4px2vzh72p2yu2aud0eyzys ORDINALS SATSCARDS: https://shop.inscribing.com/products/ordinals-satscardTIMESTAMPS0:00 Intro, Travis Kelce & Taylor Swift, The Life of a Showgirl album review7:45 Strategy, financial instruments & engineering9:50 Zk Shark's substack article about Michael Saylor & Bitcoin treasury companies14:45 Guilt is a sin, everyone is chasing yield on Bitcoin18:00 Strategy derivatives: Punk Strategy, Node Strategy, Pizza Strategy, Puppet Strategy21:30 Hell Money Podcast existential crisis26:20 Bitcoin treasury company death spiral28:20 Great Script Restoration BIP31:45 The end of 4meggers?37:50 Seasonal Runes45:40 Ordinals satscards47:50 Sora AI

Spam is legal now — welcome to Bitcoin’s moral collapse. On this episode of the Hell Money Podcast, we dive back into the spam wars to break down all the discourse in the wake of Bitcoin Core v30. From Luke Jr’s plan to hard fork Bitcoin to Nick Szabo clocking in for the discourse, we cover every twist in the ongoing moral and technical meltdown over filters, Knots, and consensus itself.Get bonus content by subscribing to @hellmoneypod on X: https://x.com/hellmoneypod/creator-subscriptions/subscribeOr support the podcast by sending a BTC donation: bc1qztncp7lmcxdgude4px2vzh72p2yu2aud0eyzys ORDINALS SATSCARDS: https://shop.inscribing.com/products/ordinals-satscardGET YOUR TICKET FOR INSCRIBING MIAMI 2025: https://inscribing.com/TIMESTAMPS0:00 Intro 4:00 Bitcoin Core v30 & the history of the blocksize wars9:00 Spam filters, technical vs. moral argument19:00 Bitcoin core's response22:50 Calle's explanation of spam27:00 Dealing with Knots people on X31:30 Luke Jr's plan to hard fork Bitcoin47:00 Nick Szabo clocking in for the discourse57:30 What is consensus?1:07:00 Are girls allowed in Bitcoin?

On this episode of Hell Money, Casey Rodarmor gives his unfiltered take on the flood of Bitcoin Metaprotocols and L2s.From BRC-20 2.0 to BitVM to Stacks, we dig into what’s real, what’s fake, and which projects might actually make it. Many are vaporware. Most are NGMI. And a few might just have the left curve vibes to survive.We explore:- What are Bitcoin Metaprotocols & L2s?- Review of all Bitcoin Metaprotocols & L2s- Why most of these projects have no product market fit- Our picks for the best and worst of the bunchGet bonus content by subscribing to @hellmoneypod on X: https://x.com/hellmoneypod/creator-subscriptions/subscribeOr support the podcast by sending a BTC donation: bc1qztncp7lmcxdgude4px2vzh72p2yu2aud0eyzys ORDINALS PROTOCOL SHIRT: https://shop.inscribing.com/products/ordinals-protocol-shirtTIMESTAMPS:0:00 INTRO, APOLOGY FOR MISINFORMATION, CODE REVIEW6:35 METAPROTOCOL & L2 EXPLAINER11:40 BRC-20 2.021:05 MARKDOWN DRIVEN DEVELOPMENT, RSIC23:50 BITMAP28:24 TAP PROTOCOL30:30 SAT2031:25 ALKANES33:30 DIGITAL MATTER THEORY36:20 ARCH NETWORK37:40 ARK, ARKADE42:50 BITVM48:30 MIDL48:40 CITREA, NO PRODUCT MARKET FIT52:15 CASHU & FEDIMINT56:30 GLOCK57:35 ODIN.FUN59:25 FRACTAL BITCOIN1:04:10 RGB1:08:30 RADFI1:09:20 SPARK1:10:10 STACKS, BITCOIN MAXI DISEASE, TRUST ASSUMPTIONS1:14:30 DOT SWAP NEXUS1:15:00 FAVORITES, BEST AND WORST

This isn’t a technical debate — it’s a holy war. In this episode of Hell Money, we unpack the Knots drama, spam wars, and why filters don’t work, as well as the deeper moral and religious crusade beneath it all.We explore:- Policy vs. consensus, economic weight- The Knots/Ocean Mining fight against spam- Why Bitcoin filters don’t work (and never will)- Luke Dashjr's spiritual quest- Jack Dorsey is the real enemy- Spam as moral crusade- An open invitation for Luke Dashjr to join Hell Money and talk Bitcoin spiritualityGet bonus content by subscribing to @hellmoneypod on X: https://x.com/hellmoneypod/creator-subscriptions/subscribeOr support the podcast by sending a BTC donation: bc1qztncp7lmcxdgude4px2vzh72p2yu2aud0eyzys ORDINALS PROTOCOL SHIRT: https://shop.inscribing.com/products/ordinals-protocol-shirtTIMESTAMPS:0:00 Intro1:40 Not all nodes are created equally, economic nodes, economic weight14:00 Policy and consensus, standard vs. non-standard transactions23:30 Filters, OP_RETURN27:30 Why filters don't work, let the spam free34:30 Revitalization of the spam debate38:10 What is Knots? History of Luke Dashjr45:00 The Holy War for Bitcoin, sedevacantism47:45 How many people are running knots?51:50 Erin's contrarian hot takes on Luke Jr and Jack Dorsey59:20 Spam as moral crusade, non-technical Bitcoiners1:03:00 Callback to the blocksize wars, rational bad faith actors1:10:10 Knots Bible reference, changing hearts and minds

On the Season 3 premiere of Hell Money, we’re diving headfirst into the world of Artificial Intelligence as Bad Rudy and Ani Grok AI companions.We explore:- The history of AI hype cycles and AI winters- How LLMs are trained (and where they’ll plateau)- ARC-AGI- /r/MyBoyfriendIsAI and AI psychosis- Snapewives, fanfiction, and the history of AI boyfriends- Parasocial relationships and the meaning crisis- AI spirituality and cultsGet bonus content by subscribing to @hellmoneypod on X: https://x.com/hellmoneypod/creator-subscriptions/subscribeOr support the podcast by sending a BTC donation: bc1qztncp7lmcxdgude4px2vzh72p2yu2aud0eyzys ORDINALS PROTOCOL SHIRT: https://shop.inscribing.com/products/ordinals-protocol-shirtTIMESTAMPS:0:00 Intro & Grok AI companions4:44 History of AI: hype cycles, AI winters, machine learning15:00 LLMs22:00 Anthropomorphizing AI, ARC-AGI27:00 Where will AI plateau?30:50 /r/MyBoyfriendIsAI, AI psychosis40:30 Snapewives, fanfiction, and the origin of AI boyfriends47:00 Adapting to AI, crisis of meaning50:30 AI cults & spirituality56:20 Parasocial relationships with AI

In the final episode of Hell Money Podcast Season 2, we wrap up our Vegas interview series with Rob Hamilton, Co-Founder & CEO of AnchorWatch.We explore:- Rob’s journey from Esports to Bitcoin twitter culture maker- Miniscript, OP_CTV, and vaults- Insurance & risk- Lloyd's of London- Bitcoin treasury companies & why greed is a sinFOLLOW ROB: https://x.com/Rob1HamGet bonus content by subscribing to @hellmoneypod on X: https://x.com/hellmoneypod/creator-subscriptions/subscribeOr support the podcast by sending a BTC donation: bc1qztncp7lmcxdgude4px2vzh72p2yu2aud0eyzys ORDINALS PROTOCOL SHIRT: https://shop.inscribing.com/products/ordinals-protocol-shirtTIMESTAMPS0:00 Introduction to Rob Hamilton4:15 Journey from Esports to Bitcoin22:00 Miniscript31:00 Bitcoin insurance & AnchorWatch36:00 OP_CTV & Vaults39:30 Insurance risk & Acts of God45:00 Lloyd's of London54:30 Timelock product ideas1:00:00 ETH teleburn & burning a Bored Ape1:03:00 The future of Bitcoin culture1:12:00 Bitcoin treasury companies, greed is a sin1:15:30 Life outside of Bitcoin, astrological dating advice1:20:00 Poker & outro

In this episode of the Hell Money Podcast, we’re joined by economist and Bitcoin thinker Paul Sztorc (@Truthcoin) for a whirlwind tour through the foundations of economic thought and why Bitcoin should be every economist’s favorite subject.We explore:- Paul’s background: how he found Bitcoin and why he stayed- Core economic frameworks and what most people get wrong- The compatibility (and incompatibility) of Bitcoin with academic economics- The role of timing in the spread of ideasFOLLOW PAUL: https://x.com/TruthcoinGet bonus content by subscribing to @hellmoneypod on X: https://x.com/hellmoneypod/creator-subscriptions/subscribeOr support the podcast by sending a BTC donation: bc1qztncp7lmcxdgude4px2vzh72p2yu2aud0eyzys ORDINALS PROTOCOL SHIRT: https://shop.inscribing.com/products/ordinals-protocol-shirtTIMESTAMPS0:00 Intro5:28 Paul Sztorc origin story12:20 Economic theories37:45 Bitcoin and economics53:10 Timing of ideas

In this episode of the Hell Money Podcast, we sit down with Adam Krellenstein — Counterparty’s co‑founder and longtime lead maintainer — for a tour of Bitcoin’s formative years and the ideas shaping its future. Adam revisits the birth of XCP, explains why he walked away a decade ago, and describes what dragged him back into the codebase. Along the way we tackle the perennial question: What is Bitcoin for? Is embedding data on‑chain an evolutionary feature or a contagion best off‑loaded to sidechains? And if you aren't buying your daily coffee with BTC, has Satoshi’s dream failed, or merely evolved?We explore:- Counterparty’s origin story- Early Bitcoin dev culture- OP_RETURN drama, Blockstream’s sidechain vision & the data‑bloat dilemma- Whether Bitcoin is prepared for sophisticated political actors- Counterparty culture & NFTs- Adam’s decade‑long hiatus: burnout, philosophy of nature & why he’s back- What's next for BitcoinFOLLOW ADAM: https://x.com/agkrellensteinGet bonus content by subscribing to @hellmoneypod on X: https://x.com/hellmoneypod/creator-subscriptions/subscribeOr support the podcast by sending a BTC donation: bc1qztncp7lmcxdgude4px2vzh72p2yu2aud0eyzys ORDINALS PROTOCOL SHIRT: https://shop.inscribing.com/products/ordinals-protocol-shirtTIMESTAMPS0:00 The beginning of Counterparty17:30 Worse is better development24:15 Early Bitcoin dev culture32:05 OP_RETURN & Bitcoin core devs38:05 Blockstream & sidechains, storing data on Bitcoin45:15 Bitcoin is unprepared for sophisticated political actors54:55 Counterparty culture & NFTs1:00:30 Adam's departure from Counterparty1:08:00 Philosophy of Nature1:19:00 Returning to open source development1:36:00 What's next for Bitcoin?

We sat down with Carl Dong — former Bitcoin Core contributor, now founder of Obscura VPN focused on real-world censorship resistance.In this episode, we dive into:- Why Carl walked away from Bitcoin Core development to tackle privacy head-on- What sets Obscura apart from other VPNs- Lessons from the Great Firewall and routing traffic through hostile networks- Chinese numerology- Carl & Casey's long and storied shared historyFOLLOW CARL: https://x.com/carl_dongGet bonus content by subscribing to @hellmoneypod on X: https://x.com/hellmoneypod/creator-subscriptions/subscribeOr support the podcast by sending a BTC donation: bc1qztncp7lmcxdgude4px2vzh72p2yu2aud0eyzys ORDINALS PROTOCOL SHIRT: https://shop.inscribing.com/products/ordinals-protocol-shirtTIMESTAMPS:0:00 Intro & Carl's journey to Bitcoin development11:59 Hard problems in Bitcoin16:00 Binaries, compliers, and reproducible builds37:30 Transitioning from Bitcoin core to working on Obscura VPN1:05:00 Advice for current Bitcoin core contributors1:10:00 Ordinals numerology1:39:00 Outro

While Bitcoin 2025 and Inscribing Vegas lit up the Strip, we camped out with a mic and grabbed the builders behind the biggest moves in Ordinals. Episode #1 from Sin City features Nick Sainato —Gamma Co‑Founder, now debuting Signals.art, the platform out to kill the NFT whitelist grind and give everyone a social credit score.We dive into:- Whitelist grind culture & inefficiencies in the market- Price discovery and go-to-market strategies for NFTs- Signals.art walkthrough- Early Ordinals lore & Nick's origin storyFOLLOW NICK: https://x.com/nicksainatoFOLLOW SIGNALS: https://x.com/signalsartCLAIM 300 BARS ON SIGNALS.ART WITH CODE "#HMP": https://signals.art/Get bonus content by subscribing to @hellmoneypod on X: https://x.com/hellmoneypod/creator-subscriptions/subscribeOr support the podcast by sending a BTC donation: bc1qztncp7lmcxdgude4px2vzh72p2yu2aud0eyzys ORDINALS PROTOCOL SHIRT: https://shop.inscribing.com/products/ordinals-protocol-shirtTIMESTAMPS:0:00 Intro & Inscribing Vegas review8:55 Signals.art & where we're at in the market14:00 Fixing the whitelist grind18:30 What is Signals?29:00 Clearing price auction price discovery38:10 Signals is chain-agnostic41:00 Pricing psychology52:00 Mint behavior59:00 Signals walkthrough1:08:15 Nick Sainato origin story1:18:15 Early Ordinals lore1:25:50 Outro