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Outside/In: Where curiosity and the natural world collide.
Look around, and you’ll find everything is connected to the natural world. At Outside/In, we explore that idea with boundless curiosity. We report from disaster zones, pickleball courts, and dog sled kennels, and talk about policy, pop culture, science, and everything in between. From the backcountry to your backyard, we tell stories that expand the boundaries of environmental journalism.
Outside/In is a production of NHPR. Learn more at outsideinradio.org
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Aug 12, 2021 • 25min
The Problem with America’s National Parks
This week, we’re sharing an episode from The Experiment, a podcast from The Atlantic and WNYC that tells “stories from an unfinished country.”
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Each episode explores elements of the experiment that is the United States, from the evangelical influence on American politics to alcohol use in the United States… and to “America’s best idea:” its national parks.
In an essay for The Atlantic, David Treuer, an Ojibwe author and historian, says we can make that idea even better—by giving national parks back to Native Americans.
“By virtue of the parks returning to Native control, I would like people, when they’re standing at the foot of El Capitan, to look up knowing they’re on Native lands, to look up knowing that they’re standing on the graves of Native people,” says Treuer, who grew up on the Leech Lake Reservation in northern Minnesota as the nearby Voyageurs National Park was being established. “I would like, when people look up at vistas, like at Yosemite or at Yellowstone, that they’d look up as a way to look back at the history of this country.”
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Jul 30, 2021 • 12min
Bonus: Ciao for Now, Sam Evans-Brown
As we wave off our erstwhile host as he moves on to new adventures, we recall a drive through the mountains and assemble (what else?) a riotous montage.
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One more throw-back of Sam, one of our more “creative” fundraising ideas from a few years back.
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Jul 22, 2021 • 23min
Windfall, Part 5: The Just Transition
To be profitable, the offshore wind industry requires vast sums of money only accessible to some of the world’s biggest companies. But is the environmental movement ready to welcome oil majors and devoted capitalists into their ranks? Ready or not, here they come.
Windfall is the story of a promising renewable technology and the potential of wind power in a changing climate. It’s a story about who has the power to reshape our energy future.
Featuring: Henrik Stiesdal, Nat Bullard, Jason Jarvis, and Mijin Cha.
Part 5 of 5.
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CREDITS
Co-hosts: Sam Evans-Brown and Annie Ropeik
Written and reported by Sam Evans-Brown
Senior Producer: Jack Rodolico
Executive Producer: Erika Janik
Mixing: Justine Paradis
Fact-checking: Sara Sneath
Editors: Erika Janik, Annie Ropeik, Justine Paradis, Felix Poon, and Hannah McCarthy
Special thanks to Sandeep Pai, Bo Quinn, Sammy Roth and Kim Delfino.
Music: Ben Cosgrove, Blue Dot Sessions, and Breakmaster Cylinder
Windfall Graphic Design: Sara Plourde
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Jul 15, 2021 • 36min
Windfall, Part 4: Port of Departure
Billions of dollars in investment will rain down on the cities that are best positioned to launch America’s offshore wind industry. But not every city can become the “wind capital of America.” Where is it gonna drizzle, and where is it gonna pour?
Windfall is the story of a promising renewable technology and the potential of wind power in a changing climate. It’s a story about who has the power to reshape our energy future.
Featuring: Ziven Drake, Dana Rebeiro, Jesper Bank, and Lars Pederson.
Part 4 of 5.
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Time-lapse of a (European) jack-up barge in action
CREDITS
Co-hosts: Sam Evans-Brown and Annie Ropeik
Written and reported by Sam Evans-Brown and Jack Rodolico
Senior Producer: Jack Rodolico
Executive Producer: Erika Janik
Mixing: Taylor Quimby
Fact-checking: Sara Sneath
Editors: Erika Janik, Annie Ropeik, Justine Paradis, Taylor Quimby, Felix Poon, and Hannah McCarthy
Special thanks to
Music: Ben Cosgrove, Blue Dot Sessions, and Breakmaster Cylinder
Windfall Graphic Design: Sara Plourde
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Jul 8, 2021 • 33min
Windfall, Part 3: Squid Pro Quo
The promise of the nascent American offshore wind industry meets an unlikely foe: squid fishermen in Rhode Island. Forces collide — like the enduring symbol of the American blue-collar worker, the big money of global energy interests, and the volatility of American politics. We ask: what is the nature of power?
Windfall is the story of a promising renewable technology and the potential of wind power in a changing climate. It’s a story about who has the power to reshape our energy future.
Featuring: Joe McNamara, Norbert Stamps, Josiah Dodge, Kevin Sullivan, Jason Jarvis, Meghan Lapp, Lars Pederson, Nicola Groom, Ben Storrow, Kevin Stokesbury, David Monti, David Bernhardt, and Gina Raimondo.
Part 3 of 5.
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CREDITS
Co-hosts: Sam Evans-Brown and Annie Ropeik
Reported by Sam Evans Brown
Written by Sam Evans-Brown, Jack Rodolico, and Annie Ropeik
Senior Producer: Jack Rodolico
Executive Producer: Erika Janik
Mixing: Justine Paradis
Fact-checking: Sara Sneath
Editors: Erika Janik, Annie Ropeik, Justine Paradis, Felix Poon, and Hannah McCarthy
Special thanks to Miriam Wasser of WBUR and Craig Lemoult for audio of Lars Pederson and David Bernhardt in this episode. Thanks also to Christa Bank, Jean Flemma, Andrew Gill, David Bidwell, Henrik Lund, John Mitchell, Callie Tansill-Suddath, and the Maritime Institute of Technology and Graduate Studies.
Music: Ben Cosgrove, Blue Dot Sessions, and Breakmaster Cylinder
Windfall Graphic Design: Sara Plourde
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Jul 1, 2021 • 38min
Windfall, Part 2: Please Let Me Finish, Mr. Kennedy.
Ten years ago, a Kennedy and a Koch shared the same goal: stop Cape Wind, America’s would-be first offshore wind farm.
Despite nearly two decades of effort, Cape Wind was never built, and its failure had huge consequences for the offshore wind industry. But it also laid the groundwork for the next wave of offshore wind and the explosive growth to come.
Windfall is the story of a promising renewable technology and the potential of wind power in a changing climate. It’s a story about who has the power to reshape our energy future.
Featuring: Cheryl Andrews-Maltais, Jim Gordon, Sean Corcoran, Beth Daley, and Audra Parker.
Beth Daley is now the editor-in-chief of The Conversation. Sean Corcoran is currently the managing editor at WGBH.
Part 2 of 5.
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A pro-Cape Wind PSA (from Greenpeace) circa 2007
CREDITS
Co-hosts: Sam Evans-Brown and Annie Ropeik
Writing and reporting: Jack Rodolico
Senior Producer: Jack Rodolico
Executive Producer: Erika Janik
Mixing: Taylor Quimby
Fact-checking: Sara Sneath
Editors: Erika Janik, Annie Ropeik, Justine Paradis, Taylor Quimby, Felix Poon, and Hannah McCarthy
Special thanks to Beth Daley, Sean Corcoran, Bettina Washington, and Richard Andre
Music: Ben Cosgrove, Blue Dot Sessions, and Breakmaster Cylinder
Windfall Graphic Design: Sara Plourde
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Jun 24, 2021 • 25min
Windfall, Part 1: Sea Change
Picture this: thousands of wind turbines off the Atlantic coast, each one taller than the Washington Monument. Offshore wind is seen as an essential solution to climate change, and it’s poised for explosive growth in the United States. How did we get to a moment of such dramatic change?
Windfall is the story of a promising renewable technology and the potential of wind power in a changing climate. It’s a story about who has the power to reshape our energy future.
Featuring: Henrik Stiesdal, Bryan Wilson, and Bob Grace.
Part 1 of 5. Listen to the rest of the series here.
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A video from the power company, Orsted, detailing the decommissioning of Vindeby, the world’s first offshore wind farm.
How a turbine works
CREDITS
Co-hosts: Sam Evans-Brown and Annie Ropeik
Written and reported by Sam Evans-Brown
Senior Producer: Jack Rodolico
Executive Producer: Erika Janik
Mixed by Taylor Quimby
Fact-checker: Sara Sneath
Editors: Erika Janik, Annie Ropeik, Justine Paradis, Taylor Quimby, Felix Poon, and Hannah McCarthy
Special thanks to Sarah Mizes-Tan and WCAI for the audio of the Block Island Wind Farm Tour, and to Vincent Schellings, Walter Musial, Michael Taylor and Dan Shreve
Music: Ben Cosgrove, Blue Dot Sessions, and Breakmaster Cylinder
Windfall Graphic Design: Sara Plourde
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Jun 17, 2021 • 13min
Introducing: Windfall
A new series and an announcement.
After 20 years of politicization and red tape, the U.S. is moving full speed ahead on plans to install thousands of wind turbines off the Atlantic coast.
Today, we’re proud to announce the launch of a special five-part series exploring this story. It’s called Windfall, and it follows the birth of a brand new industry in the U.S., one that will invest billions of dollars in our economy and reshape our coastal communities.
Giant corporations are retooling their business models, setting their sights on the climate problem and hoping to capitalize on offshore wind. But some of these corporations — including BP and Shell — are the same companies arguably responsible for climate change in the first place.
Windfall is the story of a promising green technology and the potential of wind power in a changing climate. And it’s a story about power… and who has the power to reshape our energy future.
The first episode will debut on the Outside/In feed on June 24th, with new episodes weekly through July 22nd. Learn more at windfallpodcast.org
Also, we share a big announcement about the staffing of Outside/In – a change that not only informs our reporting and transparency for the upcoming Windfall series, but impacts the future of the show as a whole.
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Jun 3, 2021 • 40min
In Pittsburgh
We’re exposed to plenty of invisible risks in our daily life: toxic compounds in the fabric of our couches, contaminants in the water, and pollutants in the air. A lot of the time, we don’t think too much about them.
But sometimes, the invisible becomes suddenly, acutely visible.
A story about the air we breathe, the risks we can live with, and what it means to become a citizen of a place.
Featuring Susan Scott Peterson, Stella Peleato, Dr. Deborah Gentile, Rashmi Baliga, and Linda Wigington.
Links and Resources
To learn ways to improve your indoor air quality wherever you are, here’s a link to the ROCIS guide.
For open-source air quality data in your location, visit the Purple Air monitoring network map.
For more on air quality in the Pittsburgh region, start with Breathe Project and the Smell PGH and Plume PGH apps by Carnegie Mellon’s CREATE Lab.
To learn more about air quality activism in Pittsburgh, visit the Group Against Smog and Pollution and Breathe Project.
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May 20, 2021 • 36min
Book Club: Trace
Geologist and writer Lauret Savoy considers fossil hunting and historical inquiry to be versions of the same pursuit.
In Trace: Memory, History, Race, and the American Landscape, Lauret uses the search for her family story as a lens to better understand American history, and the landscape as a lens to better understand her past.
Her memoir is a winding journey from southern California to Puritan New England, from Lake Superior to the U.S.- Mexico Border, and finally to Washington, D.C., where she grew up. For Lauret, identifying the geologic story in the American landscape was often easier than finding answers about her own family.
The next Outside/In book club pick is *Four Lost Cities: A Secret History of the Urban Age* by Annalee Newitz. Look for that episode in late summer.
We want to see you reading your books! Share a picture of yourself #ReadingOutsideIn, and don’t forget to tag us @OutsideInRadio on Twitter and Instagram. Plus, if you’ve got a thought about Trace or a question for Annalee Newitz, send ‘em our way!
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