
The SaaS Revolution Show
The SaaS Revolution Show, hosted by Alex Theuma, brings you insights and tactics from the greatest SaaS minds in Europe and across the world. Revolutionary founders, executives, and investors openly share wisdom on attracting and keeping customers, growing companies in unlikely places, scaling globally, successfully reaching the SaaS high skies, and never giving up. The SaaS Revolution Show is brought to you by SaaStock, the only media, membership and events business that focuses on SaaS founders scaling to $10mill ARR.
Latest episodes

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Apr 17, 2025 • 35min
Lessons in longevity: How Matt Mullenweg scaled Automattic to $500M+ (and what's next)
Matt Mullenweg, Co-founder of WordPress and CEO of Automattic, dives into his journey of scaling Automattic to over $500M ARR. He shares the mission behind Automattic and how AI is reshaping WordPress, including innovations that enhance user experience. Mullenweg discusses vital lessons in leadership, product quality, and customer engagement that fueled his growth. He also reveals what his ideal work week looks like and how he remains motivated as a CEO while navigating the challenges of leadership.

Apr 10, 2025 • 23min
Building smart, scaling right: Jason Cohen on practical strategy
This week, we're running it back to one of our most popular episodes. Recorded live at SaaStock USA 2023, host Alex Theuma is joined by Jason Cohen, Founder of WP Engine.
In the episode, Jason reflects on his multi-decade journey as a serial entrepreneur, and shares his lessons from building and scaling WP Engine into a SaaS giant, including:
- His journey as a serial entrepreneur.
- The science behind why your startup really is like your baby.
- Founding WP Engine, the world’s largest managed Wordpress platform
- From bootstrapped to venture backed, the decision to raise money.
- Why most founders shouldn’t raise money—and how to know if you’re one of them.
- How to build a practical strategy that involves the whole team.
- How to know your own strengths and why he replaced himself as CEO.
Guest links:
LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/jasoncohen/
WP Engine: https://wpengine.com/Check out the other ways SaaStock is helping SaaS founders move their
business forward:
🇺🇸 SaaStock USA 2025: 13-15 May 2025 | Austin, Texas. Connect, learn and
thrive at the leading conference for B2B SaaS Founders, Operators and
Investors from Pre-Seed to Series C. https://saastock-usa.com/tickets/
🇮🇪 SaaStock Europe 2025: 12-14 October 2025 | Dublin, Ireland. "The best
SaaS conference for founders, execs & investors in Europe, period." -
Christoph Janz, Partner, Point Nine.
https://saastock-europe.com/tickets/
🤝 SaaStock Founder Membership: A private members group of B2B SaaS
founders between $100K - $10M ARR who are committed to growth and
helping others (https://www.saastock.com/founder-membership/)
🌎 SaaStock Local: Monthly meet-ups in cities all around the world,
bringing together SaaS enthusiasts and experts to discuss the most
pressing topics in SaaS (https://local.saastock.com/home)

Apr 3, 2025 • 33min
The art of the pivot: Max Greenwald on finding PMF and scaling Warmly
Host Alex Theuma is joined by Max Greenwald, Co-founder and CEO at Warmly. During the chat, Max shares candid learnings about his journey as a Co-founder and CEO and insights into how he's scaling Warmly. Tune in to hear:
- How Max went from Google PM to building a high-growth SaaS startup.
- The pivots that shaped Warmly’s product-market fit (and what it meant for fundraising).
- His approach to blitzscaling Warmly into a future billion-dollar company.
🎤 PLUS: An exclusive freestyle rap performance–yes, really!
Guest links:
LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/max-greenwald/
Website: https://www.warmly.ai/
Growth Unhinged feature: https://www.growthunhinged.com/p/the-path-from-0-to-100-paying-customersCheck out the other ways SaaStock is helping SaaS founders move their
business forward:
🇺🇸 SaaStock USA 2025: 13-15 May 2025 | Austin, Texas. Connect, learn and
thrive at the leading conference for B2B SaaS Founders, Operators and
Investors from Pre-Seed to Series C. https://saastock-usa.com/tickets/
🇮🇪 SaaStock Europe 2025: 12-14 October 2025 | Dublin, Ireland. "The best
SaaS conference for founders, execs & investors in Europe, period." -
Christoph Janz, Partner, Point Nine.
https://saastock-europe.com/tickets/
🤝 SaaStock Founder Membership: A private members group of B2B SaaS
founders between $100K - $10M ARR who are committed to growth and
helping others (https://www.saastock.com/founder-membership/)
🌎 SaaStock Local: Monthly meet-ups in cities all around the world,
bringing together SaaS enthusiasts and experts to discuss the most
pressing topics in SaaS (https://local.saastock.com/home)

Mar 27, 2025 • 35min
GTM efficiency, AI, and the future of SaaS Sales with Jen Igartua (Go Nimbly)
Host Alex Theuma is joined by Go Nimbly CEO (and SaaStock USA Speaker) Jen Igartua for this episode packed with practical advice on making your GTM processes more efficient, including:
- Why GTM efficiency is now critical for SaaS growth.
- How AI and automation are transforming sales workflows.
- The biggest mistakes SaaS companies make with their tech stack.
- The tools that top RevOps leaders are using to drive revenue.
- Why high-touch, relationship-driven selling is making a comeback.
- What’s next for Go Nimbly, including the upcoming RevFest event.
Guest links:
LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/jen-igartua
Website: https://gonimbly.com/
RevFest: https://revfest.gonimbly.com/ Check out the other ways SaaStock is helping SaaS founders move their
business forward:
🇺🇸 SaaStock USA 2025: 13-15 May 2025 | Austin, Texas. Connect, learn and
thrive at the leading conference for B2B SaaS Founders, Operators and
Investors from Pre-Seed to Series C. https://saastock-usa.com/tickets/
🇮🇪 SaaStock Europe 2025: 12-14 October 2025 | Dublin, Ireland. "The best
SaaS conference for founders, execs & investors in Europe, period." -
Christoph Janz, Partner, Point Nine.
https://saastock-europe.com/tickets/
🤝 SaaStock Founder Membership: A private members group of B2B SaaS
founders between $100K - $10M ARR who are committed to growth and
helping others (https://www.saastock.com/founder-membership/)
🌎 SaaStock Local: Monthly meet-ups in cities all around the world,
bringing together SaaS enthusiasts and experts to discuss the most
pressing topics in SaaS (https://local.saastock.com/home)

Mar 20, 2025 • 34min
Lessons in differentiation at scale from Sendspark's Bethany Stachenfeld
Host Alex Theuma is joined by Sendspark Co-founder and CEO (and SaaStock USA speaker) Bethany Stachenfeld.
In this 30 minute episode, Beth shares:
- Her journey from Marketer to SaaS founder and CEO.
- The Sendspark founding story and journey so far.
- How Sendspark approaches differentiation.
- Advice for founders differentiating their product at scale.
- How to stay relevant in a fast-moving product space.
And more!
Guest links:
https://www.linkedin.com/in/bethany-stachenfeld/
https://www.sendspark.com/
Check out the other ways SaaStock is helping SaaS founders move their
business forward:
🇺🇸 SaaStock USA 2025: 13-15 May 2025 | Austin, Texas. Connect, learn and
thrive at the leading conference for B2B SaaS Founders, Operators and
Investors from Pre-Seed to Series C. https://saastock-usa.com/tickets/
🇮🇪 SaaStock Europe 2025: 12-14 October 2025 | Dublin, Ireland. "The best
SaaS conference for founders, execs & investors in Europe, period." -
Christoph Janz, Partner, Point Nine.
https://saastock-europe.com/tickets/
🤝 SaaStock Founder Membership: A private members group of B2B SaaS
founders between $100K - $10M ARR who are committed to growth and
helping others (https://www.saastock.com/founder-membership/)
🌎 SaaStock Local: Monthly meet-ups in cities all around the world,
bringing together SaaS enthusiasts and experts to discuss the most
pressing topics in SaaS (https://local.saastock.com/home)

Mar 13, 2025 • 36min
From $150M SaaS exit to building again: Larry Kim on growth and acquisition
Host Alex Theuma is joined by Larry Kim, Founder and CEO at Customers.ai."With the benefit of hindsight, it could have been done with even less than $18M. I think what happens is when you raise money, it allows you to make bets that you might not have otherwise made had you been operating on the edge of a knife."In this 35 minute episode, Larry shares:– How he transformed a consulting business into a $55M ARR SaaS company.– The content marketing strategy that generated 50,000 leads per month.– Lessons from his $150M exit to Gannett (USA Today’s parent company).– Why traditional inbound marketing is no longer effective in 2025.– How his new company, Customers.ai, is reshaping digital marketing and lead generation.– His learnings on bootstrapping vs. raising venture capital.Follow Larry Kim: https://www.linkedin.com/in/larrykim/ Website: Customers.ai Hear more from Larry Kim at SaaStock USA – He'll be speaking on the Founderpath Center stage sharing more on the WordStream journey and how to know when to sell.
Check out the other ways SaaStock is helping SaaS founders move their business forward: 🇺🇸 SaaStock USA 2025: 13-15 May 2025 | Austin, Texas. Connect, learn and thrive at the leading conference for B2B SaaS Founders, Operators and Investors from Pre-Seed to Series C. https://saastock-usa.com/tickets/🇮🇪 SaaStock Europe 2025: 12-14 October 2025 | Dublin, Ireland. "The best SaaS conference for founders, execs & investors in Europe, period." - Christoph Janz, Partner, Point Nine. https://saastock-europe.com/tickets/🤝 SaaStock Founder Membership: A private members group of B2B SaaS founders between $100K - $10M ARR who are committed to growth and helping others (https://www.saastock.com/founder-membership/)🌎 SaaStock Local: Monthly meet-ups in cities all around the world, bringing together SaaS enthusiasts and experts to discuss the most pressing topics in SaaS (https://local.saastock.com/home)

Mar 6, 2025 • 44min
The future of SaaS billing: Maxio’s CEO on AI integration and leadership strategies
Randy Witten, CEO of Maxio and a seasoned executive with roots in the military, shares his insights on the evolving landscape of SaaS billing post-merger of Chargify and SaaS Optics. He delves into the integration of AI in billing, advocating for usage-based pricing models. Witten emphasizes the vital role of collaborative leadership and the importance of mentorship for navigating financial complexities. He also highlights the benefits of virtual assistants for efficiency and the value of networking within the SaaS community for personal and business growth.

Feb 27, 2025 • 34min
How the Best Founders Learn to Scale Themselves as Their Company Scales
Keji Mustapha, Global Director of Brand and Community at Partech, shares powerful insights on scaling both oneself and a company. He emphasizes the importance of self-awareness and humility for founders. Hiring the right talent is crucial, as is knowing when to seek help, like getting an assistant. Setting boundaries can enhance enjoyment in the entrepreneurial journey, while embracing imposter syndrome can lead to growth. Keji’s candid advice encourages founders to create a sustainable balance in their lives while building their ventures.

Feb 20, 2025 • 32min
The Truth About AI in SaaS: Nathan Latka Debates Microsoft's CEO Prediction
Nathan Latka, CEO of Founderpath and the mind behind SaaSOpen, dives deep into AI's transformative impact on SaaS, challenging Microsoft's CEO's predictions. He highlights how AI is shifting SaaS pricing to usage-based models and argues that many companies are misusing AI in their marketing. Latka reveals why AI and ChatGPT have taken over review sites for software recommendations. Lastly, he introduces the rising trend of 'prompt marketing' as key to thriving in a competitive landscape. Listen for keen insights!

Feb 13, 2025 • 35min
How the CRO of Datarails Helped Move From 90% Outbound to 90% Inbound
In this episode of the SaaS Revolution Show our host Alex Theuma is joined by Aviv Canaani, CRO at Datarails, who shares how he helped move the company from 90% outbound to 90% inbound.
"One of our best performing ads is something actually I saw, usually it comes from the team, but I saw this TikTok ad for I think it was a B2C company. Something like, someone asked a lady a question and whatever they ask she says 'yup'. 'Oh, does it do this?' 'Yup'. 'Does it do this?' 'Yup'. So I sent it to the team. I'm like, let's try to do something like that for Datarails. It's been our one of our best performing ads on TikTok. So I think it's really understanding, you know, the channel you're focused on and you have to create the fun, engaging videos that align with what works in the channel, but with our own spin of marketing, our own software."
Aviv shares:
• Diversification and reducing dependency on any single ad channel
• TikTok success in B2B; from user-generated content to understanding the algorithm
• Reducing attribution confusion: the simple switch the DataRails team made to categorise and analyse data
• How they've scaled their marketing budget in direct proportion to AE hiring: their data-driven system that predicts meeting generation based on marketing spend
• His transition from VP Marketing to CRO and his biggest learning managing sales teams
• Combat rising ad costs: why creating platform-specific content rather than using a one-size-fits-all strategy is key
and more! Check out the other ways SaaStock is helping SaaS founders move their
business forward:
🇺🇸 SaaStock USA 2025: 13-15 May 2025 | Austin, Texas. Connect, learn and
thrive at the leading conference for B2B SaaS Founders, Operators and
Investors from Pre-Seed to Series C. https://saastock-usa.com/tickets/
🇮🇪 SaaStock Europe 2025: 12-14 October 2025 | Dublin, Ireland. "The best
SaaS conference for founders, execs & investors in Europe, period." -
Christoph Janz, Partner, Point Nine.
https://saastock-europe.com/tickets/
🤝 SaaStock Founder Membership: A private members group of B2B SaaS
founders between $100K - $10M ARR who are committed to growth and
helping others (https://www.saastock.com/founder-membership/)
🌎 SaaStock Local: Monthly meet-ups in cities all around the world,
bringing together SaaS enthusiasts and experts to discuss the most
pressing topics in SaaS (https://local.saastock.com/home)
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