Host Alex Theuma is joined by Larry Kim, Founder and CEO at Customers.ai."With the benefit of hindsight, it could have been done with even less than $18M. I think what happens is when you raise money, it allows you to make bets that you might not have otherwise made had you been operating on the edge of a knife."In this 35 minute episode, Larry shares:– How he transformed a consulting business into a $55M ARR SaaS company.– The content marketing strategy that generated 50,000 leads per month.– Lessons from his $150M exit to Gannett (USA Today’s parent company).– Why traditional inbound marketing is no longer effective in 2025.– How his new company, Customers.ai, is reshaping digital marketing and lead generation.– His learnings on bootstrapping vs. raising venture capital.Follow Larry Kim: https://www.linkedin.com/in/larrykim/ Website: Customers.ai Hear more from Larry Kim at SaaStock USA – He'll be speaking on the Founderpath Center stage sharing more on the WordStream journey and how to know when to sell.   Check out the other ways SaaStock is serving SaaS founders🇺🇸 SaaStock USA 2025: 13-15 May 2025 | Austin, Texas. Connect, learn and thrive at the leading conference for B2B SaaS Founders, Operators and Investors from Pre-Seed to Series C. https://saastock-usa.com/tickets/🇮🇪 SaaStock Europe 2025: 12-14 October 2025 | Dublin, Ireland. "The best SaaS conference for founders, execs & investors in Europe, period." - Christoph Janz, Partner, Point Nine. https://saastock-europe.com/tickets/🤝 SaaStock Founder Membership: A private members group of B2B SaaS founders between $100K - $10M ARR who are committed to growth and helping others (https://www.saastock.com/founder-membership/)🌎 SaaStock Local: Monthly meet-ups in cities all around the world, bringing together SaaS enthusiasts and experts to discuss the most pressing topics in SaaS (https://local.saastock.com/home)

Randy Witten, CEO of Maxio and a seasoned executive with roots in the military, shares his insights on the evolving landscape of SaaS billing post-merger of Chargify and SaaS Optics. He delves into the integration of AI in billing, advocating for usage-based pricing models. Witten emphasizes the vital role of collaborative leadership and the importance of mentorship for navigating financial complexities. He also highlights the benefits of virtual assistants for efficiency and the value of networking within the SaaS community for personal and business growth.

Keji Mustapha, Global Director of Brand and Community at Partech, shares powerful insights on scaling both oneself and a company. He emphasizes the importance of self-awareness and humility for founders. Hiring the right talent is crucial, as is knowing when to seek help, like getting an assistant. Setting boundaries can enhance enjoyment in the entrepreneurial journey, while embracing imposter syndrome can lead to growth. Keji’s candid advice encourages founders to create a sustainable balance in their lives while building their ventures.

Nathan Latka, CEO of Founderpath and the mind behind SaaSOpen, dives deep into AI's transformative impact on SaaS, challenging Microsoft's CEO's predictions. He highlights how AI is shifting SaaS pricing to usage-based models and argues that many companies are misusing AI in their marketing. Latka reveals why AI and ChatGPT have taken over review sites for software recommendations. Lastly, he introduces the rising trend of 'prompt marketing' as key to thriving in a competitive landscape. Listen for keen insights!

In this episode of the SaaS Revolution Show our host Alex Theuma is joined by Aviv Canaani, CRO at Datarails, who shares how he helped move the company from 90% outbound to 90% inbound. "One of our best performing ads is something actually I saw, usually it comes from the team, but I saw this TikTok ad for I think it was a B2C company. Something like, someone asked a lady a question and whatever they ask she says 'yup'. 'Oh, does it do this?' 'Yup'. 'Does it do this?' 'Yup'. So I sent it to the team. I'm like, let's try to do something like that for Datarails. It's been our one of our best performing ads on TikTok. So I think it's really understanding, you know, the channel you're focused on and you have to create the fun, engaging videos that align with what works in the channel, but with our own spin of marketing, our own software." Aviv shares: • Diversification and reducing dependency on any single ad channel • TikTok success in B2B; from user-generated content to understanding the algorithm • Reducing attribution confusion: the simple switch the DataRails team made to categorise and analyse data • How they've scaled their marketing budget in direct proportion to AE hiring: their data-driven system that predicts meeting generation based on marketing spend • His transition from VP Marketing to CRO and his biggest learning managing sales teams • Combat rising ad costs: why creating platform-specific content rather than using a one-size-fits-all strategy is key and more! Check out the other ways SaaStock is serving SaaS founders 🇺🇸 SaaStock USA 2025: 13-15 May 2025 | Austin, Texas. Connect, learn and thrive at the leading conference for B2B SaaS Founders, Operators and Investors from Pre-Seed to Series C. https://saastock-usa.com/tickets/ 🇮🇪 SaaStock Europe 2025: 12-14 October 2025 | Dublin, Ireland. "The best SaaS conference for founders, execs & investors in Europe, period." - Christoph Janz, Partner, Point Nine. https://saastock-europe.com/tickets/ 🤝 SaaStock Founder Membership: A private members group of B2B SaaS founders between $100K - $10M ARR who are committed to growth and helping others (https://www.saastock.com/founder-membership/) 🌎 SaaStock Local: Monthly meet-ups in cities all around the world, bringing together SaaS enthusiasts and experts to discuss the most pressing topics in SaaS (https://local.saastock.com/home)

In this engaging discussion, Mark Roberge, Co-Founder at Stage 2 Capital and the mind behind HubSpot's sales team, shares insights on effective sales strategies. He dives into the concept of a recruitment agency within companies and the shift towards Product-Led Growth in SaaS. Mark emphasizes the value of extended trial periods for software and the complexities of partner channels for early-stage companies. His blend of practical experience and academic wisdom offers a fresh perspective on navigating sales dynamics in the SaaS landscape.

Chris Walker, CEO of Passetto and former founder of Refine Labs, shares profound insights on demand generation for SaaS businesses. He emphasizes the importance of CEOs actively participating in marketing and understanding customer behaviors. The rise of 'dark social' and its impact on B2B marketing is discussed, alongside challenges in measuring ROI. Chris advocates for a customer-centric approach, effective use of platforms like LinkedIn and TikTok, and the significance of community engagement in driving success.

Live from the SaaStock USA 2024 Scale Stage, Ashley Kramer, GitLab’s Chief Strategy and Marketing Officer, sits down with AJ Eckstein, Founder & Creator at Creator Match and Fast Company. Together, they explore the imminent shift in how companies measure AI's impact on efficiency, questioning whether the productivity gains truly justify the risks and costs associated with AI adoption. Ashley argues that forward-thinking companies must move beyond traditional output metrics and focus on those that reflect real business value—such as enhanced software quality, faster time-to-market, consistent delivery, and, most importantly, improved customer satisfaction.Check out the other ways SaaStock is serving SaaS founders 🇺🇸 SaaStock USA 2025: 13-15 May 2025 | Austin, Texas. Connect, learn and thrive at the leading conference for B2B SaaS Founders, Operators and Investors from Pre-Seed to Series C. https://saastock-usa.com/tickets/ 🇮🇪 SaaStock Europe 2025: 12-14 October 2025 | Dublin, Ireland. "The best SaaS conference for founders, execs & investors in Europe, period." - Christoph Janz, Partner, Point Nine. https://saastock-europe.com/tickets/ 🤝 SaaStock Founder Membership: A private members group of B2B SaaS founders between $100K - $10M ARR who are committed to growth and helping others (https://www.saastock.com/founder-membership/) 🌎 SaaStock Local: Monthly meet-ups in cities all around the world, bringing together SaaS enthusiasts and experts to discuss the most pressing topics in SaaS (https://local.saastock.com/home)

In this episode of the SaaS Revolution Show our host Alex Theuma is joined by Steve Oriola, CEO at Unbounce, who shares the leadership lessons he's learnt from navigating a SaaS M&A and the transformation AI has had on business. "We also survey base of employees and those values are landing pretty well. That's an important part of it, is that people understand how everyone works and how everyone should be working and how we should be making decisions. And we correct ourselves all the time on that." Steve shares: • How he's steering the marketing tech ship through choppy waters - from perfecting landing pages to building an AI-powered platform that actually tells you which customers are worth chasing • The behind-the-scenes of marrying two companies' cultures; complete with leadership team matchmaking and values that actually stuck • Why he's betting big on AI being more than just a buzzword • The secret sauce to staying sane as a CEO, including cold plunges, fitness regimes, and the art of not bringing work drama home (even when your spouse is in the industry) • How he's tackling his biggest CEO headache with everything from Berlin Q&As to leadership pow-wows and more! Check out the other ways SaaStock is serving SaaS founders 🇺🇸 SaaStock USA 2025: 13-15 May 2025 | Austin, Texas. Connect, learn and thrive at the leading conference for B2B SaaS Founders, Operators and Investors from Pre-Seed to Series C. https://saastock-usa.com/tickets/ 🇮🇪 SaaStock Europe 2025: 12-14 October 2025 | Dublin, Ireland. "The best SaaS conference for founders, execs & investors in Europe, period." - Christoph Janz, Partner, Point Nine. https://saastock-europe.com/tickets/ 🤝 SaaStock Founder Membership: A private members group of B2B SaaS founders between $100K - $10M ARR who are committed to growth and helping others (https://www.saastock.com/founder-membership/) 🌎 SaaStock Local: Monthly meet-ups in cities all around the world, bringing together SaaS enthusiasts and experts to discuss the most pressing topics in SaaS (https://local.saastock.com/home)

In this episode of the SaaS Revolution Show our host Alex Theuma is joined by Kevin Hu, Co-Founder & CEO at Metaplane, who shares how they navigated Metaplane's journey from pivot to Series A and beyond. "Most of us come from tens of thousands of years of subsistence farmers and we're one of the first generations that has the opportunity to build something that can have a large impact with software and capitals leveraged. And when it comes to the CEO job, one can hope that the problems never stop. When the problems stop, I think that's when growth stops. The best case scenario is when the problems are new problems all the time and it doesn't feel like Groundhog Day." Kevin shares: • The reasons that drove Metaplane to pivot (twice!) • The importance of attracting strong leaders and building a repeatable sales process as a company grows • His approach to decision-making and prioritisation; from the way he collects information to committing to decisions • Why being upfront about expectations and offering upside potential is crucial to recruiting top talent • Metaplane's unique onboarding process where new hires "ship something" on day one • Overcoming market headwinds through a product-led approach and land-and-expand strategy and more! Check out the other ways SaaStock is serving SaaS founders 🇺🇸 SaaStock USA 2025: 13-15 May 2025 | Austin, Texas. Connect, learn and thrive at the leading conference for B2B SaaS Founders, Operators and Investors from Pre-Seed to Series C. https://saastock-usa.com/tickets/ 🇮🇪 SaaStock Europe 2025: 12-14 October 2025 | Dublin, Ireland. "The best SaaS conference for founders, execs & investors in Europe, period." - Christoph Janz, Partner, Point Nine. https://saastock-europe.com/tickets/ 🤝 SaaStock Founder Membership: A private members group of B2B SaaS founders between $100K - $10M ARR who are committed to growth and helping others (https://www.saastock.com/founder-membership/) 🌎 SaaStock Local: Monthly meet-ups in cities all around the world, bringing together SaaS enthusiasts and experts to discuss the most pressing topics in SaaS (https://local.saastock.com/home)