
PODS by PEI
PODS by PEI is a podcast initiative of Policy Entrepreneurs Inc., a policy research center based in Kathmandu, that examines the state of Nepali politics, economy, and development and seeks to inform and enrich Nepal’s policy discourse. Every week, PODS by PEI brings to you thoughtful and in-depth discussions that will take you deep into the most pertinent issues in Nepal.
Latest episodes

Sep 26, 2022 • 1h 12min
Conversations: Sagar Prasai offers a Political Economy of Electricity Market in India and Beyond
Ep. Co#004
Nepal’s hydropower narrative has always had the export of electricity to India as one of the key components. In this episode of PxP:Conversations, Saumitra Neupane and Sagar Prasai discuss how the Indian electricity market gets featured in Nepal’s hydropower imagination, the impact that this has had on Nepal’s ability to exploit its hydropower potential, and what differentiates the Nepali model from that of other bilateral arrangements such as those between India and Bhutan. They also examine India’s policy positions in the last ten years on cross-border electricity trade and how regional rivalry between India and China is complicating energy markets in South Asia. They also discuss the future market opportunities for Nepali hydropower and whether there are longer-term trends that support supply signals and investor confidence for Nepali hydropower. They end their conversation with a discussion on the possibilities of markets beyond India, primarily Bangladesh but also China, and evaluate whether there are realistic opportunities on these fronts.
Sagar Prasai is a development professional with over two decades of experience working in the areas of water, energy, climate issues, and regional cooperation in South Asia. He is currently based in Nepal and provides advisory services to various organizations, including The Asia Foundation and the Australian Government’s DFAT. Previously, he served as The Asia Foundation’s country representative in India. He has a Ph.D. from the University of Illinois at Urbana-Champaign.
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Sep 20, 2022 • 34min
Conversations: Anthea Mulakala on China’s Infrastructure Diplomacy in Asia, its Relevance to India and South Asia, and Implications for Recipient Countries like Nepal
Ep. Co#003
Countries in the Asia Pacific region are increasing investments in their physical infrastructures to stimulate growth and economic recovery, especially in the aftermath of COVID-19 pandemic. Three of the world’s largest economies – the US, China and Japan – are actively maneuvering for economic and geopolitical influence in the emerging Asian markets. But how should governments and markets that sit within targeted countries handle this newfound attention? How can they turn competing interests of big powers into advantage for their people?
In this episode of Conversations, the two speakers explore the rise of China as a superpower and its impact on the evolution of aid as a foreign policy tool. This episode features PEI’s own Anurag Acharya and our guest Anthea Mulakala, the Senior Director of International Development Cooperation at The Asia Foundation. Over the last decade, she has worked in Asian development cooperation, particularly understanding how rising powers, such as China and India, are transforming the 21st century aid and development landscape.
This episode examines China’s Belt and Road Initiative, its increasing use of infrastructure diplomacy in the Asia Pacific, and how the West is trying to counter its set of infrastructure-oriented development financing. The speakers also discuss the implications of the Great Power Rivalry in South Asia, how India is maneuvering to maintain its influence over the region, and the opportunities and challenges this holds for aid-recipient countries like Nepal.

Sep 14, 2022 • 34min
The Brief: Rastra Raj Bhandari on Nepal’s Green Financing Future
Ep. Br#001
In the backdrop of Nepal’s status as the least developed country, one of Nepal's greatest challenges is to manage the natural resources and finance development interventions for Nepal’s sustainable future initiatives while navigating the risks associated with climate change. While a bulk of financing in Nepal is already happening on green infrastructure and green initiative – specifically on hydroelectricity and solar energy, there arises the question about the new opportunities and avenues that mainstreaming green financing could open for Nepal.
Today’s episode of the Brief features PEI’s Saurab Lama's interview with Rastra Raj Bhandari on Nepal’s Green Financing Future. The two discuss Rastra’s latest report, “A Background Policy Paper on Green Financing in Nepal” and take an analytical look at Nepal’s green financing future, and what green financing looks like for a developing country like Nepal.
The episode discusses the rationale for Rastra’s study within Nepal’s current socio-economic status and its historical dependence on foreign aid. The episode also informs listeners about the various green financing initiatives that are happening in Nepal, and the best way for Nepal to navigate green financing. It also focuses on the various roles regulatory agencies and banks and financial institutions, private and public entities can play in Nepal’s green financing strategy.

Sep 14, 2022 • 1h 25min
Conversations: Satish Joshi on Reframing Nepal's Hydropower Energy Narrative
Ep. Co#002
For over half a century, Nepal has deeply held on to the established narrative of its immense hydropower potential. Proponents have long proclaimed hydropower as a source of clean and affordable energy and a means of achieving national prosperity through the export of electricity to markets in India and beyond. In reality, however, the country has realized only a fraction of its potential and the chronic power shortage has had a huge economic cost.
Today, Nepal has emerged from its decade of darkness, primarily by being able to import electricity from India. But Nepal is also on its path towards producing "surplus" electricity and is now, finally, beginning to trade in the Indian electricity market. Despite this positive outlook, however, systemic challenges of access, quality, and reliability remain unresolved.
In this episode of Conversations, the two speakers look into the past, the present, and the future of Nepal’s electricity sector narrative. This episode features PEI’s own Saumitra Neupane and our guest Satish Joshi from VRock & Company, who has worked in Nepal’s electricity sector for over a decade on issues ranging from institutional reforms to electricity trade. It will begin by dissecting the formation of Nepal’s hydro-centric energy narrative, the reasons behind the country’s failure to exploit the stated hydropower potential, and the impact that has had on Nepal’s energy sector and the overall economy. Putting all this in the context of the current global energy transition, we discuss a new narrative that is grounded on the concept of energy security and based on increased domestic consumption and efficient electricity trade with India.

Sep 14, 2022 • 39min
Amish Mulmi on Examining Nepal’s Relationship with China
Ep. Co#001
The geopolitical landscape of South Asia continues to evolve, with India forced to concede its traditionally uncontested influence to other superpowers, namely, China and the United States. While the US is more strategically allied with India, increasing Chinese influence has directly challenged Indian hegemony in the region. Considering all of these moving pieces, there arises the question about what this geopolitical shift means for recipient countries like Nepal, which has continued to rely on aid provided by developed countries to expand its infrastructures and spur economic growth.
In this episode of Conversations, the two speakers examine China’s role in Nepal, with some historical context as well as the recent domestic political developments that have shaped bilateral relationships and aid negotiations with Beijing. This episode features PEI’s own Anurag Acharya and our guest Amish Mulmi, a noted columnist with The Kathmandu Post and a regular commentator on Nepal and the broader South Asia region, and the author of the critically-acclaimed book “All Roads Lead North”. The episode delves into some of the key topics within the Nepal-China bilateral relationship, including Nepal’s historical ties with its northern neighbor, the flourishing trade between the two countries until the earlier part of the 20th century, and its reinvigoration and evolution in modern times.
The episode further discusses Amish’s examination of the underlying conditions that foster the Nepal-China relationship. These include, among others, the rise in anti-India sentiments in Nepal and the weakening of the Indo-Nepal relationship. The episode further dissects the challenges to Nepal’s pursuit of a non-aligned foreign policy with India, China and the US, and how Nepal could leverage its geo-political location to further its interest.

Sep 8, 2022 • 2min
Introduction to PODS by PEI
Trailer
Saumitra Neupane, PEI's Executive Director, introduces PODS by PEI.
PODS by PEI is a podcast initiative of Policy Entrepreneurs Inc., a policy research center based in Kathmandu, that examines the state of Nepali politics, economy, and development and seeks to inform and enrich Nepal’s policy discourse. Every Tuesday, PODS by PEI brings to you thoughtful and in-depth discussions that will take you deep into the most pertinent issues in Nepal.