
Let's Talk Loyalty
“Let’s Talk Loyalty” is an industry podcast for loyalty marketing professionals.
If you work in loyalty marketing, join us every week to learn the latest ideas and marketing insights from loyalty specialists around the world.
Check out our website on: http://www.letstalkloyalty.com/
Latest episodes

Sep 5, 2024 • 39min
#585: Bakers Delight - Winner of Best Loyalty Program Launch (Asia Pacific Loyalty Awards)
This episode is available in audio format on our Let's Talk Loyalty podcast and in video format on www.Loyalty.TV.I’ve just come back from the annual conference from the Asia Pacific Loyalty Association, and I’m thrilled now to be interviewing this award winning programme. Bakers Delight won their award for Best Loyalty Program Launch at the 2023/2024 Awards, so I’m delighted to share this story with you today. Our guest is Lucila Braga, the Head of Digital Customer Experience for Bakers Delight, with overall responsibility for their “Dough Getters” program. As a brand, quite simply, Baker’s Delight sells freshly baked bread and they’ve been doing so around the country since 1980. Their loyalty programme is also super simple as you’ll hear in today’s conversation. Listen to hear the power of simplicity as a winning formula for both customers and program operators. Watch for free with our partner Capillary Technologies via Loyalty.TV or subscribe this episode to watch ad-free.Show notes:1) Lucila Braga2) Bakers Delight3) Dough Getters

Sep 4, 2024 • 50min
#584: You Can’t Avoid Loyalty Fraud, But You Can Attempt to Manage It
Michael Smith, from AI Events is co-Founder of the Loyalty Security Alliance.He talks through the definition of fraud and the difference between traditional fraud and account take overs. He also explains the different stages of fraud: prevention, detection & post fraud recovery for customers. Fascinatingly, we discuss who are the fraudsters from customers o staff, bots and criminal gangs.Hosted by Amanda CromhoutShow notes:1) Michael Smith2) Loyalty Security Alliance.3) The Paypers

Sep 3, 2024 • 17min
#583:The Case for Consistent, Clear Communication
The Wiser Loyalty podcast series for Let’s Talk Loyalty leans into the expertise of the Wise Marketer Group team of CEO, Bill Hanifin, and CMO, Aaron Dauphinee. The pair have been providing weekly perspectives on the Loyalty Academy™ curriculum for their Certified Loyalty Marketing Professional™ (CLMP™) designation as a podcast series. Each month they select constructs from a specific course in that certification program in which they provide their own perspectives, guidance on what you need to have embedded as truths as a “loyalty marketer”.This month they take on topics form a revised course curriculum on Loyalty Member Communications (course 110). Like with a selection of other core courses, this has also been refreshed with new insights and points of view on communicating with your members of your customer program and related initiatives. In this week’s episode Aaron discusses the differences in brand and loyalty communications and notes some important channels that enable loyal behaviours and what it feels like to be loyal to a brand.Show notes:1) Bill Hanifin2) Aaron Dauphinee3) The Loyalty Academy™4) The Wise Marketer

Aug 29, 2024 • 38min
#582: Livelo's Award-Winning Proposition Goes from Strength to Strength
This episode is available in audio format on our Let's Talk Loyalty podcast and in video format on www.Loyalty.TV.Today’s episode is a long overdue catch up with the Livelo loyalty program that we last spoke to back in August 2021.Livelo is the largest loyalty program in Brazil with more than forty-five million members, four hundred partners and over a million rewards available!Livelo offers countless possibilities to earn and burn points in both the physical and digital world, with access to products, services, trips, experiences, payments and even cash back via the country’s incredible Pix platform.We are joined again by Daniel Pagano, Chief Marketing and Operations Officer who shares Livelo’s latest propositions and performance and their incredible recent recognition. Livelo is a client of Comarch.Watch for free with our partner Capillary Technologies via Loyalty.TV or subscribe to watch this episode ad-free.Show notes:1) Daniel Pagano2) Livelo3) Pix platform4) Watch this episode for free with our partner Capillary Technologies via Loyalty.TV5) Subscribe to watch this episode ad-free

Aug 28, 2024 • 45min
#581: Premia Juntos +: El programa de lealtad de Coca Cola FEMSA para tenderos(Spanish Episode)
En este episodio de Let's Talk Loyalty en español, tuvimos como invitado a Juan Pablo de Velasco quien nos habló sobre la estrategia digital de Coca Cola FEMSA llamada Juntos + y cómo a través de ella generan valor a sus clientes. Igualmente nos comentó sobre la estrategia de lealtad para el segmento B2B con Premia Juntos +, un programa de lealtad dirigido a tenderos, el cual busca recompensar las compras de los clientes otorgando puntos por sus transacciones y también utilizando un esquema de misiones, retos y recompensas variables a través de técnicas de gamification.Hosted by Alex Saul Show Notes :1)Juan Pablo de Velasco2) Coca Cola FEMSA

Aug 27, 2024 • 21min
#580: Member Care Goes Where?
It’s another weekly episode with the senior faculty from the Loyalty Academy, Bill Hanifin and Aaron Dauphinee, who are the CEO and CMO of the The Wise Marketer, respectively. This is Wiser Loyalty on Let’s Talk Loyalty where we look at constructs from the Loyalty Academy™ curriculum designed by practitioners for practitioners and leads to individuals earning their Certified Loyalty Marketing Professional™ (CLMP™) designation.This week we put forward a topic that is of long-standing debate on where Member Care should reside within the organization. We re-examined this with the refresh of our “Loyalty Operations” curriculum (course 111) and we will touch on this briefly again in the soon to be refreshed “Loyalty Marketing Communications” course as well (course 110).Show notes:1) Bill Hanifin2) Aaron Dauphinee3) The Loyalty Academy™4) The Wise Marketer

Aug 22, 2024 • 49min
#579: Let's Talk Loyalty turns FIVE Today! Announcing Partnership with Capillary Technologies.
This episode is available in audio format on our Let's Talk Loyalty podcast, and in video format on www.Loyalty.TV.Today is a truly momentous day for us as you’ll hear in today’s episode.It's "Let's Talk Loyalty's" 5th birthday and we are beyond proud of the brand we have created, the loyalty leaders we’ve interviewed and the impact we’ve had so far in the global loyalty industry.As part of our birthday story, we are making some significant changes to our business model for Loyalty TV specifically, and announcing our biggest partnership to date with Capillary Technologies.Capillary’s technology solutions power loyalty programs for some of the biggest brands in the world with over 300 marquee brands across 30+ countries, including the biggest programmes we’ve heard of – Tata Group with 170 million members and the upcoming launch of a program for Indigo Airlines which carries more than 100 million passengers annually!As you’ll hear in the episode, Capillary will now be bringing these incredible clients to share their stories on Loyalty TV, and those video interviews will be exclusively available free of charge on the CapillaryTech.com website.Please enjoy our conversation with Aneesh Reddy, Founder and CEO of Capillary Technologies as we today announce our biggest-ever partnership and hear the story of their incredible successes in recent years and Capillary’s even more exciting plans for the future. Sponsored by Capillary Technologies.Show notes:1) Aneesh Reddy2) Capillary Technologies3) Watch our latest episodes at www.loyalty.tv

Aug 21, 2024 • 45min
#578: Audacious Success: Dr. Nceba Hene's Rewarding Journey with AfricanBank
Dr Nceba Hene has a lot to shout about after an incredibly successful start to Audacious Rewards, the rewards programme for AfricanBank. The story behind Audacious Rewards is fascinating, but what is more significant is its performance to date, after only 18 months. It is delivering a +67% increase in profit for like for like customers due to Audacious Rewards. It is an award-winning brand from this year’s International Loyalty Awards.Hosted by Amanda Cromhout Show notes:1) Dr Nceba Hene2) AfricanBank3) Audacious Rewards

Aug 20, 2024 • 18min
#577: Take Care of Business – T&C’s, Privacy, Compliance, and Risk
Welcome to Let’s Talk Loyalty’s Wiser Loyalty weekly podcast that shares perspectives on constructs from the the Loyalty Academy™ curriculum, which is available for individuals to earn their Certified Loyalty Marketing Professional™ (CLMP™) designation. Our senior faculty of Bill Hanifin and Aaron Dauphinee, CEO and CMO respectively at the Wise Marketer Group provide their own perspectives and guidance on what you need to have embedded as truths as a “loyalty marketer”.This week continues looking into the refreshed “Loyalty Operations” curriculum (course 111) as the two identify a few key areas of accountability that should be within the role of an Operations teams as they require coordination and consensus from across the organization and, in some instances, across a set of partnerships. Show notes:1) Bill Hanifin2) Aaron Dauphinee3) The Loyalty Academy™4) The Wise Marketer

Aug 15, 2024 • 38min
576: PAYBACK (Germany) Shares Its Latest World Class Successes
This episode is available in audio format on our Let's Talk Loyalty podcast, and in video format on www.Loyalty.TV.PAYBACK is an award-winning customer loyalty program which began in German almost twenty-five years ago, and now operates in multiple countries worldwide.The business is part of the American Express Group and it also operates as a multi-channel marketing platform.When it comes to coalition loyalty, the PAYBACK programme is undoubtedly one of the best in the world.Joining me today for second time on Let's Talk Loyalty and for the first time on Loyalty TV is Berni Brugger, CEO of the PAYBACK Group.When we last spoke in 2021, I remember being particularly impressed by the incredible 95% points redemption rate that PAYBACK had managed to achieve from its 31 million members in Germany, so I was super excited to hear what’s been happening in the business since then!I hope you enjoy my conversation with Berni Brugger from PAYBACK Group.Show notes:1) Berni Brugger2) PAYBACK Group3) Edeka4) Netto5) Marktkauf6) Watch the full video interview at www.Loyalty.TV