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May 9, 2025 • 26min
What Next: TBD | Chatbots All The Way Down
Why artificial intelligence isn’t waiting for consumer demand.
Guest: Gerrit De Vynck, tech reporter for The Washington Post.
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Podcast production by Evan Campbell and Patrick Fort.
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May 8, 2025 • 30min
What Next | Yes, Shelves Will Be Empty
The consequences of Donald Trump’s new tariffs are working their way through the supply chain and soon will start showing up for consumers in the form of empty shelves, higher prices, and potentially even layoffs and a recession.
Guest: Christopher Mims, Wall Street Journal tech reporter and the author of Arriving Today: From Factory to Front Door---Why Everything Has Changed About How and What We Buy.
Jessica Berger, CEO of Bundle x Joy.
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Podcast production by Ethan Oberman, Elena Schwartz, Paige Osburn, Anna Phillips, Madeline Ducharme, Isabel Angell, and Rob Gunther.
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May 4, 2025 • 34min
What Next: TBD | How Elon Wields Power
What is it about the way that Elon Musk wields power that led 65 percent of Americans to agree he has too much influence on the federal government?
Guest: Faiz Siddiqui, Washington Post tech reporter and author of “Hubris Maximus: The Shattering of Elon Musk.”
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May 3, 2025 • 52min
Slate Money | Everyone Cares About Power Grids This Week
This week: The entire Iberian peninsula lost power for 18 hours. Felix Salmon, Emily Peck, and Elizabeth Spiers are joined by energy expert John Kemp to talk about why that might have happened and nerd out on power grids. Then, the GDP is down by 0.3%. But is that really the right metric to care about? Finally, the tech world is bringing back the brutal system of stack ranking management. The hosts discuss why this might be ill advised.
In the Slate Plus episode: Are Toy Tariffs…Good?
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Podcast production by Jessamine Molli and Cheyna Roth.
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May 2, 2025 • 26min
What Next: TBD | Marc Andreessen’s New Deal
What drove Marc Andreessen’s transformation into a political actor, and what is he looking for from having Washington in his thrall?
Guest: Zoe Schiffer, WIRED journalist covering business and Silicon Valley.
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Podcast production by Evan Campbell and Patrick Fort.
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Apr 30, 2025 • 31min
ICYMI: This Book Drama Gets Hotter in the DMs
Candice Lim and Kate Lindsay break down the drama surrounding an influencer’s new book that has kicked off a whole controversy before it’s even been released. Christina Najjar, better known as Tinx, has made a successful career as a TikTok influencer who doles out dating advice to her more than 1.5 million followers. Her new book is a summer beach read following an influencer who escapes to the Hamptons after getting canceled. But TikTok creators have been suspicious leading up to the book’s release because Tinx, up to this point, has identified as a straight woman, and her novel revolves around a queer romance. Additionally, some creators believe Tinx might’ve used a ghostwriter, who is a queer writer herself. Therefore, who gets to tell which stories in traditional publishing? And what is the specific betrayal some people feel when influencers use ghostwriters?
This podcast is produced by Vic Whitley-Berry, Daisy Rosario, Candice Lim, and Kate Lindsay.
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Apr 29, 2025 • 44min
Money Talks: The Family Squabble That Could Change Right-Wing News
In this Money Talks: Succession may be over but the drama continues for the Roy family’s real world counterparts. Felix Salmon is joined by McKay Coppins to discuss his experience getting up close and personal with the Murdoch family and break down the dynamics behind the battle over the family empire.
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Podcast production by Jessamine Molli and Cheyna Roth.
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Apr 27, 2025 • 27min
What Next: TBD | Death of the Weather Forecast?
The Trump administration has already begun cutting the National Oceanic and Atmospheric Administration, which includes the U.S. National Weather Service. What’s the advantage to understanding the weather less?
Guest: Daniel Swain, weather and climate scientist with the University of California Agriculture and Natural Resources.
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Apr 26, 2025 • 50min
Slate Money | Say Goodbye to Hollywood
This week: Trump has reversed his stance on Jay Powell and his extreme tariffs on China. Felix Salmon, Emily Peck, and Elizabeth Spiers discuss Trump’s backtrack on his threat to fire the Fed chair as well as his recent concession that his 145% tariffs on China aren’t sustainable. Then, the hosts weigh in on the growing trend of film and television productions moving out of California in search of budget breaks, as reported by The New York Times. And finally, the ice bucket challenge is back. The hosts debate the efficacy of viral awareness campaigns.
In the Slate Plus episode: Junk fees have been vanquished!
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Apr 23, 2025 • 28min
What Next | Fed Up!
Why Trump wants to ouster his own appointee, Jerome Powell, from the Fed chair—and why the rest of the world is rooting for Powell to stay put.Guest: Liz Hoffman, Semafor’s business and finance editor, host of Semafor’s World Economy Summit, and author of Crash Landing: The Inside Story of How the World’s Biggest Companies Survived an Economy on the Brink.Want more What Next? Join Slate Plus to unlock full, ad-free access to What Next and all your other favorite Slate podcasts. You can subscribe directly from the What Next show page on Apple Podcasts and Spotify. Or, visit slate.com/whatnextplus to get access wherever you listen.Podcast production by Elena Schwartz, Paige Osburn, Anna Phillips, Madeline Ducharme, Ethan Oberman, and Rob Gunther. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices


