

The Recruiting Brainfood Podcast
Hung Lee
The Recruiting Brainfood Podcast: Your weekly 60 minute dose of brilliant conversation about Recruiting & HR
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Nov 14, 2025 • 60min
Brainfood Live On Air - Ep350 - Diversity & Inclusion in the Era of AI and Emerging Cybersecurity Threats
Diversity & Inclusion in an Era of Emerging AI and Cyberthreats
The rise of candidate fraud has been a huge topic in recruitment in 2025, so much so that employers have had to take extreme steps to protect their businesses, from asking candidates to physically move on command in front of screen to come in person to attend interview on premise, to go through ID verification procedures which would have previously been reserved for high security roles.
What does all this mean for diversity and inclusion? That the question we're going to ask in today's Brainfood Live
- State of Candidate Fraud
- What are the potential concerns for D&I
- On premise, requires car
- More rigid work patterns is bad for primary care givers
- ID verification techniques depend on photo ID
- Bank records / Criminal records / Credit records
- Economically deprived are most likely to have disadvantage in ID verification processes
- Gender: name change for women married / divorce
- Trans: ID change, no longer recognised in some states?
- Ambiguity on legislation, concern over future direction
- How do we ensure that ID verification and candidate fraud mitigation steps do not over step into identity profiling and prejudice?
All this and more on brainfood live on air.
We're with Kyle Barry, CISO (Clear), Torin Ellis, Principal Analyst (The Torin Ellis Brand) & Daniel Chait, CEO (Greenhouse) on Friday 14th November, 2pm GMT.
Register by click on the green button (save my spot) and follow the channel here (recommended) to be noticed when we go live.
Episode 350 is sponsored by Greenhouse
It’s tough out there for today’s recruiting teams.
The rise of AI, slashed recruiting budgets and lean teams have made candidate funnels more chaotic than ever. Take back control of your candidate pipeline with new Greenhouse features that help put an end to application overload, messy data, and disconnected tools.
Check out everything new at Greenhouse here!

Nov 14, 2025 • 1h 1min
Brainfood Live On Air - Ep344 - Grading My Recruitment Predictions for 2025
GRADING MY RECRUITMENT FORECASTS FOR 2025
Every year I write a long post making 20 predictions for the year ahead. This year, for the first time ever, I'm going to grade my predictions and see how I have got on
20 x Predictions for Recruiting in 2025
1. AI Assessment mainstreams; 50% of high volume hirers (more than 5000 hires per year) will have a solution in place by EOY.
2. ‘Skill based hiring’ revives as employers describe deployment of AI assessment as commitment to SBH. %age of employers describing themselves as SBH increases 50%.
3. 2FA on job ads increases 400% as an attempt to suppress increased applicant flow.
4. Applications per job increase by 25% as AI-enablement mainstreams candidate side.
5. Big round of investment for AI voice interview vendors currently at Seed - $100M raised in this sector by EOY 2025.
6. Non-FTE vs FTE hiring increases by 10% in 2025.
7. Avg internal TA team goes 25% non-FTE.
8. Req load per recruiter increases 15%.
9. Percentage of solo TA function goes from 73% to 83%.
10. TA teams continue geographic dispersal - %age of TA teams with multinational component increases by 30%.
11. More companies decentralise talent acquisition - %age of employers where HM do outreach increases by 10%.
12. Candidate resentment stabilises - with 2% points either side of 2024 level.
13. ‘Chief Automation Officer’ becomes an industry talking point in 2025, same as Chief Diversity Officer in 2020.
14. Speaking of DEIB, clear Atlantic divergence in 2025 - US explicit retrench, Europe implicit progress.
15. US vs UK economic integration deepens - %age of new UK based TA jobs from US employers increases 100%.
16. Global Staffing agencies revenue / profit down another 10% (profit warning again in Q1 2025).
17. But medium sized agencies / RPO stage mini bounce back as employers push more requirements out from denuded TA teams.
18. RecOps, Talent Intelligence roles decline 20%, EB roles decline 30%. People & Culture roles increase 15%.
19. Somebody Ubersises the legions of fractional TA’s out there. Probably this is Indeed.
20. Over half of these predictions will be directionally incorrect, 20% will be absolutely incorrect.
What should the grading system be? I thinking a sliding scale A to E.
What should be the source of truth? That is where we will be bringing in experts from industry who can validate the claims.
It's going to be a good one folks.
Friday 14th November, 12pm GMT
Register by click on the green button (save my spot) and follow the channel here (recommended) to be noticed when we go live.
Ep 344 is sponsored by our friends Popp
Popp’s AI recruitment platform amplifies what your team can do by effortlessly and instantly scaling your recruiting capacity. Popp's recruitment platform sits between your ATS and your talent team, providing unprecedented hiring power at unlimited scale.
Our AI automates repetitive tasks throughout the hiring journey, intelligently and accurately. Meaning your team can focus on higher value tasks. Randstand, Robert Walters, Bloom & Wild, AMN Healthcare and more are using Popp to x10 their hiring capacity.
Want to know more?
Book a demo with one of Popp's friendly founding team

Nov 7, 2025 • 1h 6min
Brainfood Live On Air - Ep342 - Career Transition - Trips from Ex-Pro Athletes
CAREER TRANSITION - LESSONS FROM EX-PRO ATHLETES
Changing career is never easy, especially if you've committed everything into a vocation which you might have thought to be your whole of life focus. I know well myself, having previously attempted to go down the tech entrepreneur path but now very happily but very fortuitously landing into what seems to be a media business!
Perhaps no other vocation is as tunnel focused as that of a professional athlete. You can imagine you cannot achieve elite performance without going all in. So what happens...when it doesn't happen and you have to switch?
We're going to bring in ex-pro athletes to help us better understand the techniques needed for transition.
- When did you know?
- What were the feelings when you knew it was time to change?
- Identity crisis: how did you handle the change of identity when changed?
- What are the internal and external challenges of switching into 'civilian' life?
- How did you choose your new path?
- What resources did you have to help guide you to a new path?
- How did you cope with the status change?
- Did you feel people treated differently now in civilian life?
- What does it feel like to work with a team / work by yourself?
- Have there been any techniques from elite sports which you have found useful in civilian life?
- What resources should be available for ex-pro athletes to more successfully transition?
- What resources should there be for other people from any other profession to transition?
- What are your top tips for successful career switch?
It's going to be a good one folks.
We're with Ben Stocken, Founder (West Peak) Charlie Mulraine, Personal Development (The Professional Cricketers Association), Agne Chmyznikova, Practice Lead (People & Transformation) on Friday 7th November, 2pm GMT
Register by click on the green button (save my spot) and follow the channel here (recommended) to be noticed when we go live.
Ep342 is sponsored by our friends Ashby
Drive faster, more confident hiring decisions with native AI-Notetaking
Ashby’s AI Notetaker brings structured meeting data together with emails, notes, feedback, and more. It shortens time to feedback and provides rich candidate context, helping your team align quickly and make faster, more confident hiring decisions.
Spend less time typing and more time hiring with interview notes that practically write themselves.

Oct 31, 2025 • 58min
Brainfood Live On Air - Ep341 - Talent Acquisition Budgeting for the AI-Enabled Function
BUDGETING FOR AN AI-ENABLED TALENT ACQUISITION FUNCTION
We're racing toward the end of the year and inevitably attention turns to plans for the future. But today we face a future which is increasingly difficult to predict and where agility, resilience and ability to quickly pivot without loss of performance are the qualities every function needs to develop to maintain value to the business. What does this mentality mean for how we allocate budget in talent acquisition? Today we're going to debate the issue with industry leaders who have experience of budget planning and have had to balance between competing priorities.
- Do we spend more on automation and less on payroll?
- Do we create a buffer to spend on RPO partners who can help us scale up capacity, whilst we retain a lean permanent staff?
- How about reducing payroll whilst maintaining headcount?
- Do we spend on hiring entry level talent and ramp up with intensive AI upskilling?
- What does the future look like in 2030 and should we start budgeting to a longer term framework?
- How much recruiting work do we expect hiring managers to be doing in 2030?
- Should we invest in diversification in related fields, adjacent to Talent Acquisition?
- Do we go large with enterprise grade master software, or continue with a core platform + point solutions?
- What about training and development?
- Do we even talk about DEIB today?
All this and more as we discuss how the changing world of work, is being reflected in the changing priorities of for the talent acquisition function,
With industry heavyweights Johnny Campbell, CEO (Social Talent), Elaine Atkinson, Leadership Coach (In Wonder Coaching), Kobi Ampoma, Head of Talent Acquisition (The HEINEKEN Company) & friends,
We are on Friday 31st October, 2pm GMT follow the channel here (recommended) and save your spotfor this demo by clicking on the green button.
Ep341 is sponsored by our friends Greenhouse
It’s tough out there for today’s recruiting teams.
The rise of AI, slashed recruiting budgets and lean teams have made candidate funnels more chaotic than ever. Take back control of your candidate pipeline with new Greenhouse features that help put an end to application overload, messy data, and disconnected tools.
Check out everything new at Greenhouse here!

Oct 29, 2025 • 59min
Brainfood Live On Air - Ep343 - Future of Recruiter Enablement - Vouch Live Demo
FASTER, SMARTER, MORE HUMAN: THE FUTURE OF RECRUITER ENABLEMENT.
Hiring has never been harder.
Recruiters are under pressure to move fast, personalise outreach, and tell a story candidates believe in.
But here’s the problem: recruiters don’t have the same tools that sales or marketing teams take for granted.
I’m teaming up with Vouch to show how recruiters can finally catch up — with a new way to cut through the chaos: Recruiter Enablement.
Join us live for a demo, discussion, and Q&A on Weds 29th October, 1230PM PT / 330pm ET follow the channel here (recommended) and save your spot for this demo by clicking on the green button.

Oct 24, 2025 • 1h 6min
Brainfood Live On Air - Ep340 - A Psychologist Perspective on Candidate Feedback
Nikita Mihailov, a professional psychologist specializing in psychometrics and candidate experience, dives deep into the often-ignored importance of candidate feedback. He discusses why bad feedback is common, psychological stressors job seekers face, and how overly vague assessments can lead to frustration. Nikita emphasizes actionable feedback and the need for clearer communication from recruiters. He also explores the impact of technology on assessment practices, stressing the necessity of accommodating neurodiversity for effective hiring.

Oct 23, 2025 • 56min
Brainfood Live On Air - Ep334 - Interviews Are Not Evaluating the Right Skills
INTERVIEWS AREN'T EVALUATING THE RIGHT SKILLS: INSIGHTS FROM ANALYSING 1,311 INTERVIEW LOOPS
What is actually happening at interviews?
It's the most critical part of any assessment process yet it is also the one which we know least about, not least because we've never had the means to really study them at scale. That is why this latest research from Harvard Business Review is so significant - across 1300+ organisations, 50+_ organisations and tens of thousands of interviews, researchers using BrightHire proprietary data track what is actually happening in this crucial step of the process.
The insight reveals challenges to which we will in recruitment have an urgency in handling.
(a) the gap between what JDs communicate to candidates are the critical qualifications for positions vs. what's actually covered in interviews
(b) the effectiveness of interviews in the evaluation of skills
(c) the extent to which interviews are evaluating for AI skills
We're doing a Brainfood Live special with BrightHire CEO Ben Sesser and William Leeds, Head of Data Science - we're going through this research with the Harvard Business Review!
We are on Thursday 23rd October, 4pm BST / 11am ET - follow the channel here (recommended) and save your spot for this demo by clicking on the green button.
Ep334 is sponsored by our friends BrightHire
BrightHire, the AI copilot for exceptional hiring used by hundreds of game-changing companies like Canva, Vercel, Multiverse, up to the Fortune 500.

Oct 19, 2025 • 54min
Brainfood Live On Air - Ep339 - State of C Level Hiring - Annual ESIX Report 2025
ANNUAL BENCHMARK REPORT 2025: CORPORATE EXECUTIVE SEARCH
There probably isn't a recruitment function more shrouded in mystery than Corporate Exec Search! This is hiring for the function leaders who will make disproportionate impact on your organisations bottom line and often involves a high degree of discretion, especially as incumbent-in-place is a common scenario.
For organisations are able to tell us what this world looks like better than ESIX - the premier community of Corporate Exec Search professionals. With thousands of members, across hundreds of the top employers in the world, ESIX have access to the collective intelligence of what hiring has been like the internal headhunters.
I'm delighted to invite ESIX Chairman, Simon Mullins to do a 1-2-1 with us and share data from ESIX Annual Benchmark report on how Corp Exec Search is operating - from budget allocation, tool usage, role profile and state of the leadership job market. We might even get a glimpse of some data which is usually members only
We are on Friday 17th October, 2pm BST follow the channel here (recommended) and save your spot for this demo by clicking on the green button.
Ep339 is sponsored by our friends Ashby
Fraudulent candidates in hiring pipelines are increasingly draining recruiting teams time and attention. In extreme cases they pose security risks. Launching this week, Ashby’s new feature automatically detects fraud signals so your team can mark candidates as fraudulent during your application review helping you focus on real candidates - all without disrupting the candidate experience.
Follow their page to see when it launches
Live Webinar: AI Notetaker in Action and see what’s next for AI at Ashby
Ashby’s All-in-One recruiting software spans ATS, Scheduling, CRM & Sourcing, and Analytics, and now they’re adding AI Notetaking to a platform already infused with useful AI.Their new AI Notetaker records, transcribes, and structures your meeting notes to help you make faster, more confident hiring decisions. In the event, you’ll also learn how Ashby is uniquely suited to help teams adopt AI responsibly while preparing for an AI and agent-oriented future.

Oct 10, 2025 • 1h 3min
Brainfood Live On Air - Ep338 - Recruitment Agency 2028!
Join industry experts James Osborne, Kalpesh Baxi, Keith Langbo, and John Chirikjian as they explore the future of recruitment agencies by 2028. They discuss the pivotal role of AI in automating administrative tasks while emphasizing the enduring importance of human relationships. Insights reveal a shift towards smaller, tech-enabled boutiques and the need for recruiters to adapt to flexible workforce models. The panel highlights the essential skills for tomorrow's recruiters: empathy, sales acumen, and deep industry knowledge, setting the stage for next-gen agency strategies.

Oct 10, 2025 • 58min
Brainfood Live On Air - Ep336 - Recruiters Meet Your New AI Coworkers - Chase, Archer & Thena (Live Demo of AI Agents)
RECRUITERS: SAY HELLO TO YOUR NEW CO-WORKERS ARCHER, CHASE & THENA! (LIVE DEMO OF AI AGENTS)
Is your recruitment supplier talking to you about AI Agents? Well this is the show where we challenge the founders to come on screen to live demo their new AI workers to the brainfood audience!
Not content will one agent, our friends at hackajob are have launched no less than three at the same time:
Meet:
🏹 Archer – Smarter inbound applications, 8x more likely to convert to interview. Reach passive audiences through structured data
🗣️ Chase – Your AI recruiter, holding tens of thousands of conversations weekly.
🔎 Thena – Resume screening powerhouse, cutting review time by 70%.
After extensive period of trialling, hackajob are seeing that early customers are reviewing 68% fewer interviews needed per hire, 8X more unique candidates progressed after application with Archer and Thena alone cuts manual review time by 70%
These are step change improvements in hiring efficiency. How does it all work?
Well lets see and hear it from the horses mouth with CEO Mark Chaffey doing live demo with us the Thursday
We are on Thursday 9th October, 3pm BST / 10am ET - follow the channel here (recommended) and save your spot for this demo by clicking on the green button.
Ep336 is sponsored by our friends hackajob
AI agents for job seekers and employers—making hiring easier, faster and fairer.


