Secrets of Story Podcast

Matt Bird and James Kennedy
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Jul 30, 2021 • 48min

Episode 30: Genre, Burgers, and Alien with Jonathan Auxier

Jonathan Auxier returns for a record fifth time to discuss what he originally wanted to discuss last time: Genre, how it is like burgers, and what this all has to do with the movie Alien. James then high-roads us with some classical music cues.
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Jul 15, 2021 • 48min

Episode 29: Author Draft, Artifact Draft, Audience Draft with Jonathan Auxier

Jonathan Auxier returns again with his best idea yet: Everything you write should have an Author Draft, an Artifact Draft, and an Audience Draft.
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May 29, 2021 • 50min

Episode 28: The Order of Odd-Fish

Matt and James examine James's first novel to see if it matches some of the writing rules we've discussed over the years.
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Apr 20, 2021 • 1h 11min

Episode 27: Orphan, Wanderer, Warrior, Martyr with Lou Anders

Last episode's guest Lou Anders returns with more storytelling tricks, including a way to break your story into four quarters: Orphan, Wanderer, Warrior, and Martyr.
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Mar 19, 2021 • 48min

Episode 26: The Eight Character Wheel with Lou Anders

Matt and James welcome the delightful novelist Lou Anders who expands on Head Heart Gut with a list of eight archetypes hiding in many great stories.
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Jan 25, 2021 • 1h 18min

Episode 25: Cult Thinking

James has an elaborate theory about how writing is like cult indoctrination. Matt tries to keep up.
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Dec 8, 2020 • 53min

Episode 24: Agency with Parker Peevyhouse

Parker Peevyhouse returns to ask about when a character should break their own rules, which results in discussion of The Mandalorian, Knives Out, and whether superhero movies suck. Check out this blog post we cite a few times: http://www.secretsofstory.com/2018/09/rulebook-casefile-three-rules-vs.html
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Nov 17, 2020 • 56min

Episode 23: Head Heart Gut

We’re back! Matt and James have a rousing discussion of Head, Heart and Gut (And Spleen, and Groin, and Spirit, and a zillion other permutations…) Read more about and see neat charts here: http://www.secretsofstory.com/2017/05/head-heart-gut-aka-how-to-create.html
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Oct 16, 2020 • 58min

Episode 22: The Holy Moment

James has advice for writing opening scenes and Matt basically agrees with him for once. Plus, James almost gets hit by a meteor and Matt sings the praises of Minneapolis Community and Technical College.
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Oct 1, 2020 • 1h 25min

Episode 21: Franchise Finales with Jonathan Auxier

Returning guest Jonathan Auxier stops by to discuss franchise finales, because he's about to write one himself. It's another long one!

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