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Jan 2, 2023 • 29min

Deb Liu’s Double-Edged Sword of Resilience and Resentment

For those not paying attention, it might seem as though Deb Liu, the CEO of Ancestry.com and the author of Take Back Your Power has been on a straightforward path to success her whole life. Despite Chinese cultural norms that tend to favor boys over girls, Deb’s parents were incredibly supportive, accepting her for who she was: “[My father] took us fishing, he taught me how to shoot. We went crabbing and shrimping. He treated us like he would any other boy or girl. And it was really great. I had such a wonderful childhood with him.” But great parents couldn’t fully protect Deb from what was seen as normal in the American south, “where people just brutally bullied you for being different,” according to Liu. For someone in her position, overcoming these kinds of experiences is often cited as a reason for success and not a barrier. But for Liu, it’s more complicated than that: “That taught me so much resilience, and yet gave me so much resentment at the same. I had to spend a lot of time really breaking through that…I used that resentment. I used it to actually help me accelerate my career, to get to college, to achieve so much. And yet at the same time, it was really hurting me too, because that chip on my shoulder of ‘I'm going to prove to them that I'm better than they think I am, that I'm more than they assume I am,’ really hurt me in the long term.” Disruptions discussed in this episode: MommySchool.net The Purpose Driven Life The Five Love Languages The Righteous Mind Why We’re Polarized ForwardLearn more about The Disrupters Podcast here.SPECIAL OFFER | Effective Jan. 1st, 2024, all promo codes/opportunities mentioned in this episode are expired. Please use the code IVPOD25 at ivpress.com for 25% off your order.The Disrupters is hosted by Nancy Wang Yuen. Theme song is New Eyes by Jason Chu. Mixed and Edited by Matt Linder Producers: Richard Clark and Maila Kim Executive Producers: Andrew Bronson and Helen LeeAdvertising Inquiries: https://redcircle.com/brands
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Dec 19, 2022 • 43min

I’m Dreaming of a Not-White Christmas, Part 4: How White Santa Overshadows Jesus

In this series, Nancy Wang Yuen is joined by co-host New York Times bestselling author and historian Jemar Tisby for a miniseries exploring the Christmas season through the lenses of race, gender, and class. They examine some of the implicit and explicit messages that permeate Christian Christmas culture and that we often enjoy and consume indiscriminately. In part 4, Nancy and Jemar discuss the obsession with white Santa and the ways that cultural representations often distract from the heart of the season, Jesus Christ.Learn more about The Disrupters Podcast here.SPECIAL OFFER | Effective Jan. 1st, 2024, all promo codes/opportunities mentioned in this episode are expired. Please use the code IVPOD25 at ivpress.com for 25% off your order.The Disrupters: I’m Dreaming of a Not-White Christmas is hosted by Drs. Jemar Tisby and Nancy Wang Yuen. Mixed and edited by Matt Linder Producers: Richard Clark and Maila Kim Executive Producers: Andrew Bronson and Helen LeeAdvertising Inquiries: https://redcircle.com/brands
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Dec 12, 2022 • 56min

I’m Dreaming of a Not-White Christmas, Part 3: Christmas in Color

In this series, Nancy Wang Yuen is joined by co-host New York Times bestselling author and historian Jemar Tisby for a miniseries exploring the Christmas season through the lenses of race, gender, and class. They examine some of the implicit and explicit messages that permeate Christian Christmas culture and that we often enjoy and consume indiscriminately. In part 3, Nancy and Jemar discuss what it actually looks like to have people of color fully represented in Christmas movies.Learn more about The Disrupters Podcast here.SPECIAL OFFER | Effective Jan. 1st, 2024, all promo codes/opportunities mentioned in this episode are expired. Please use the code IVPOD25 at ivpress.com for 25% off your order.The Disrupters: I’m Dreaming of a Not-White Christmas is hosted by Drs. Jemar Tisby and Nancy Wang Yuen. Mixed and edited by Matt Linder Producers: Richard Clark and Maila Kim Executive Producers: Andrew Bronson and Helen LeeAdvertising Inquiries: https://redcircle.com/brands
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Dec 5, 2022 • 46min

I’m Dreaming of a Not-White Christmas, Part 2: The Christmas Rom-Com

In this series, Nancy Wang Yuen is joined by co-host New York Times bestselling author and historian Jemar Tisby for a miniseries exploring the Christmas season through the lenses of race, gender, and class. They examine some of the implicit and explicit messages that permeate Christian Christmas culture and that we often enjoy and consume indiscriminately. In part 2, Nancy and Jemar discuss the proliferation of the Christmas Rom-Com, and the cultural tropes that often come alongside them.Learn more about The Disrupters Podcast here.SPECIAL OFFER | Effective Jan. 1st, 2024, all promo codes/opportunities mentioned in this episode are expired. Please use the code IVPOD25 at ivpress.com for 25% off your order.The Disrupters: I’m Dreaming of a Not-White Christmas is hosted by Drs. Jemar Tisby and Nancy Wang Yuen. Mixed and edited by Matt Linder Producers: Richard Clark and Maila Kim Executive Producers: Andrew Bronson and Helen LeeAdvertising Inquiries: https://redcircle.com/brands
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Nov 28, 2022 • 55min

I’m Dreaming of a Not-White Christmas, Part 1

For the next four episodes, Nancy Wang Yuen is joined by co-host, New York Times bestselling author and historian Jemar Tisby for a miniseries exploring the Christmas season through the lenses of race, gender, and class. They examine some of the implicit and explicit messages that permeate Christian Christmas culture and that we often enjoy and consume indiscriminately. In part 1 of this series, our hosts discuss the reasons for doing a series like this at all and also share about their own personal experiences with Christmas through their unique perspectives as Christians of color for whom the phrase “white Christmas” has a completely different connotation. You will learn, you will laugh, and you will never see the Christmas season in the same way again. Join us in dreaming of a not-white Christmas this year!Learn more about The Disrupters Podcast here.SPECIAL OFFER | Effective Jan. 1st, 2024, all promo codes/opportunities mentioned in this episode are expired. Please use the code IVPOD25 at ivpress.com for 25% off your order.The Disrupters: I’m Dreaming of a Not-White Christmas is hosted by Drs. Jemar Tisby and Nancy Wang Yuen. Mixed and edited by Matt Linder Producers: Richard Clark and Maila Kim Executive Producers: Andrew Bronson and Helen LeeAdvertising Inquiries: https://redcircle.com/brands
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Nov 21, 2022 • 35min

Why It Doesn’t Matter Whether Tennis Legend Michael Chang Wins or Loses

Michael Chang is a legendary tennis player, primarily known for his improbable 1989 victory as a teenager at the French Open, among his many successes. But for Chang, that is not his primary legacy. “I've never thought of tennis as just being tennis,” says Chang. “I've always positioned it as a way to touch lives, to share my faith, to inspire young people…young Asian athletes in particular.” It’s a perspective that has helped Chang see his sports career, however successful it has been, in the proper light: “Whether I was winning, whether I was losing, whether it was a very, very close match, the perspective of knowing that this doesn't change who I am or how I'm loved was a great comfort for me.” As the only Asian American male player to hoist a major tennis championship trophy, Chang provided a joyous moment for people of color and especially Asian American fans during a time of tennis’s heyday in the era of white American tennis stars such as Pete Sampras and Andre Agassi. As a Christian on tour, Chang never shied away from naming his faith as a core piece of his identity. Decades later, his fans still remember how much of a disruption he was to the sport, long before the Williams sisters and Naomi Osaka became household names. Enjoy this conversation with Michael Chang, who still holds the record as the youngest man to ever win a major tennis championship. Disruptions discussed in this episode: 30 for 30 Documentary “American Son” Announcement Michael Chang vs Ivan Lendl - 1989 French Open Beyond Colorblind: Redeeming Our Ethnic Journey “Let's come together to end the hate,” essay by Michael Chang =Learn more about The Disrupters Podcast here.SPECIAL OFFER | Effective Jan. 1st, 2024, all promo codes/opportunities mentioned in this episode are expired. Please use the code IVPOD25 at ivpress.com for 25% off your order.The Disrupters is hosted by Nancy Wang Yuen. Theme song is New Eyes by Jason Chu. Mixed and Edited by Matt Linder Producers: Richard Clark and Maila Kim Executive Producers: Andrew Bronson and Helen LeeAdvertising Inquiries: https://redcircle.com/brands
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Nov 14, 2022 • 51min

You’re Ready to Heal. Now What? With Dr. Christina Edmondson

It can be exhausting to fight injustice. But for those who are marginalized, it can be traumatizing. And especially when that injustice is around every corner, it can often seem impossible to heal in the face of it. But according to educator and activist Dr. Christina Edmonson, healing is a gift that has already been given: “For believers, healing is one of our blood-bought rights. It is something that has been given to us to do this. It has been won for us in the resurrection.” If that’s true, what can the marginalized believer do to experience that kind of healing in their reality? This week, Nancy Wang Yuen and Dr. Christina Edmondson discuss the tangled knot of what it means, and what it takes, to truly heal from racial trauma. Disruptions discussed in this episode: Faithful Antiracism: Moving Past Talk to Systemic Change by Christina Edmondson and Chad Brennan Truth's Table: Black Women's Musings on Life, Love, and Liberation by Christina Edmondson, Ekemini Uwan, and Michelle Higgins. Healing Racial Trauma by Sheila Wise Rowe The Witness’ #LeaveLOUD Campaign Truth’s Table Podcast Get in the Word with Truth’s TableLearn more about The Disrupters Podcast here.SPECIAL OFFER | Effective Jan. 1st, 2024, all promo codes/opportunities mentioned in this episode are expired. Please use the code IVPOD25 at ivpress.com for 25% off your order.The Disrupters is hosted by Nancy Wang Yuen. Theme song is New Eyes by Jason Chu. Producers: Richard Clark and Maila Kim, mixed and edited by Matt Linder Executive Producers: Andrew Bronson and Helen LeeAdvertising Inquiries: https://redcircle.com/brands
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Nov 7, 2022 • 46min

Leaving Evangelicalism, with Jon Ward

If you’re listening to this podcast, you’ve probably left, or considered leaving evangelicalism. But what does it mean to leave evangelicalism, and what is evangelicalism anyway? In today’s episode, Nancy speaks to reporter Jon Ward about the disparity between what the evangelical movement’s aspirational ideas and the current reality of the evangelical movement at work in the world. “A lot of evangelicalism is a cultural project, which presents itself as a theological project,” says Ward. “There's a disconnect between the faith and the principles of the faith, and how to apply them broadly,” So what does that mean for those of us who aren’t exactly feeling the “cultural project” of evangelicalism? And how do we focus on moving forward rather than merely looking back? Nancy and Jon bring their unique perspectives to a complex topic in this week’s episode of The Disrupters. Disruptions discussed in this episode: Jon Ward’s upcoming book, Testimony: Inside the Evangelical Movement that Failed a Generation Interview about the Greg Thompson/Duke Kwon book, Reparations The Evangelicals: The Struggle to Shape America “Shame” by Jake Meador The Color of Compromise by Jemar Tisby Culture Care by Makoto FujimuraLearn more about The Disrupters Podcast here.SPECIAL OFFER | Effective Jan. 1st, 2024, all promo codes/opportunities mentioned in this episode are expired. Please use the code IVPOD25 at ivpress.com for 25% off your order.The Disrupters is hosted by Nancy Wang Yuen. Theme song is New Eyes by Jason Chu. Producers: Richard Clark, Matthew Linder, and Maila Kim Executive Producers: Andrew Bronson and Helen LeeAdvertising Inquiries: https://redcircle.com/brands
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Oct 31, 2022 • 1h 9min

What Happens If We Don’t Tell Our Stories, with Jemar Tisby

Back in early 2020, on the first season of The Disrupters, Jemar Tisby told then-host Esau McCaulley that a person of color’s participation in historically white Christian spaces inherently come with a cost: “You get pushed out, you burn out, or you sell out.” For McCaulley, this was a challenge to his own approach, as a black Christian who was a professor in a white-Christian institution: “This podcast is a record in time, and this is a hypothesis.” Said McCaulley at the time. “Let’s follow God in this way, and then let’s check back in 5-10 years and see what God has done with both. Hopefully, he’s blessed both.” It hasn’t yet been five years, but for both Tisby and host Nancy Wang Yuen, the writing is on the wall. White Christian institutions have not created spaces where they can thrive. But what does that mean for the way forward? For Tisby, a key component of moving forward involves telling his own story in as truthful a way he can. “What I realized over time is if we don't tell our stories, then they can continue the really unhealthy, traumatic, abusive behavior. In some cases, the malpractice is allowed to continue.” Jemar Tisby is a New York Times bestselling author, national speaker, and public historian on a mission to deliver truths from the Black experience with depth and clarity. Disruptions discussed in this episode: An Open Letter to the Board of Trustees at Grove City College White Awake by Daniel Hill Those Meddling Kids Pass the Mic Truth’s Table: The Podcast and The Book Truth's Table: Get In the Word Podcast Tyler Burns’ Sermons at All Nations Fellowship Jesus and the Disinherited by Howard Thurman Let us Google that for you. Amanda Gorman Reads Inaugural Poem, The Hill We ClimbLearn more about The Disrupters Podcast here.SPECIAL OFFER | Effective Jan. 1st, 2024, all promo codes/opportunities mentioned in this episode are expired. Please use the code IVPOD25 at ivpress.com for 25% off your order.The Disrupters is hosted by Nancy Wang Yuen. Theme song is New Eyes by Jason Chu. Executive Producers are Helen Lee and Andrew Bronson. Advertising Inquiries: https://redcircle.com/brands
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Oct 27, 2022 • 3min

Coming October 31: Disrupters Season 4!

Nancy Wang Yuen is back for Season 4, and this season, she’s going to spill some tea. Join us on Monday, October 31 for the first in a series of conversations about how to heal and move on from the toxic religious institutions and movements that many of us have been a part of for years.Learn more about The Disrupters Podcast here.Advertising Inquiries: https://redcircle.com/brands

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