Vital Health Podcast

Vital Health Podcast
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Aug 13, 2025 • 30min

Henry Skinner: Fixing the Antibiotics Market & Confronting AMR

In this Vital Health Podcast, host Duane Schulthess - joined by Joe Hammang, Vital Transformation's US Business Director - speaks with Henry Skinner (CEO, AMR Action Fund), about the escalating threat of antimicrobial resistance (AMR) and what it will take to rebuild a viable antibiotics pipeline. The conversation follows the full story - from bedside to boardroom - covering why short-course, stewardship-constrained antibiotics are undervalued, how cancer patients shoulder disproportionate risk, and which practical incentives can bring capital and talent back into the field. Henry Skinner also details how the AMR Action Fund is investing roughly $1B in clinical-stage biotech while emphasizing that policy, diagnostics, and prevention must move in lockstep. Key Topics The Antibiotics Market Problem: Short treatment durations, "break-glass" stewardship, and decade-long, high-cost development create a public-goods gap that markets alone will not solve. Oncology & Sepsis Under AMR: Cancer patients face higher rates of infection and drug-resistant infection, undermining gains from modern cancer care. Diagnostics Economics: Cultures and advanced molecular tests are underused due to cost and turnaround time, even though delays drive longer ICU stays and higher system costs. Rebuilding R&D: Big-pharma retreat, brain drain, and investor opportunity costs demand durable pull incentives to attract capital and expertise back to antibiotics. Prevention: Vaccination and prudent antibiotic use can reduce morbidity, resistance, and cost when the system properly values these tools. Recorded July 1, 2025. Opinions expressed are those of the speakers.See omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.
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Aug 6, 2025 • 59min

Best-of Edition: Peter Kolchinsky & John LaMattina on the IRA

Peter Kolchinsky, Managing Partner at RA Capital Management, discusses the long negotiations for drug pricing that stifle early-stage R&D. John LaMattina, former President of Pfizer Global R&D, highlights how the Inflation Reduction Act reshapes pharmaceutical pipelines and investment strategies. They dive into the disparity in price-setting for small versus large molecules, challenges in patient access, and the implications of stricter regulations on innovation. Both guests emphasize the urgent need for reform to maintain balance in affordability and the advancement of medical therapies.
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Jul 30, 2025 • 37min

Barbara McAneny, Rafael Fonseca, and Steve Potts: Protecting Patients Amid the IRA

In this episode of the Vital Health Podcast, host Duane Schulthess convenes three leading voices from the 2025 BIO International Convention - prominent physicians, innovators, and advocates shaping the future of drug development in the wake of the Inflation Reduction Act (IRA). Throughout this conversation, they examine policy impacts, clinical ramifications, and patient access challenges: Barbara McAneny: Former American Medical Association President; Co‑Chair, ONCare Alliance; CEO, New Mexico Oncology Hematology Consultants, Ltd. Rafael Fonseca: Chief Innovation Officer & Getz Family Professor of Cancer, Mayo Clinic in Arizona Steve Potts: Chair, Drug Development Council, ICAN (International Cancer Advocacy Network) Key Topics: Pipeline Modality Shifts: Early‑stage developers are retooling small molecule programs into biologics, or abandoning follow‑on indications altogether to sidestep the IRA’s nine‑year exclusivity pill penalty. Clinical Trial Ecosystem: Independent and academic centers alike are seeing fewer small molecule trials, threatening orphan drug expansions and revenue streams that underwrite care. Oncology Practice Economics: Cuts to drug margins will jeopardize community practices, forcing difficult choices between patient treatment and financial survival. Patient Affordability & Copays: The cap on out‑of‑pocket oral drug costs versus the hidden burden of high copays and co‑insurance - and why eliminating them could raise premiums only modestly. PBM & Insurer Vertical Integration: Payers acquiring manufacturers and ownership of formularies are steering patients toward the highest‑rebate products at the expense of clinical judgment. Broader Systemic Ripples: From congested ERs due to unmanaged side effects to rural access collapse, plus the missed opportunity to cut PBM take‑rates instead of hampering innovation. Policy Fix Imperatives: Proposals include recalibrating exclusivity durations (extend small molecule to 13 years), automating rebate flows to CMS, and overhauling PBM incentives. This discussion covers the interplay between drug-pricing reform and the future of care, highlighting unintended consequences and pragmatic solutions. It’s essential listening for policymakers, payers, industry leaders, patient advocates, and every stakeholder invested in sustaining medical innovation and ensuring equitable patient access. Opinions expressed are those of the speakers, not the companies listed. Recorded on June 16, 2025.See omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.
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Jul 17, 2025 • 41min

Sam Rasty, Steve Potts, and Joe Hammang: Policies, Patients, and the Biotech Narrative

In this episode, Duane Schulthess is joined by Sam Rasty, Chief Business Officer at Sensorium Therapeutics, Steve Potts, Chair of the Drug Development Council at the International Cancer Advocacy Network, and Joe Hammang, neuroscientist and US Business Director at Vital Transformation, to discuss how U.S. health policy is reshaping neuroscience innovation, investment priorities, and patient access. Key Topics:- Investment and R&D Strategy Shifts: Explore how the Inflation Reduction Act’s pricing controls and Medicare negotiations change venture capital allocation and steer neuroscience pipelines.- Patient Advocacy and Access Barriers: Guests discuss how formulary rules, generic-first requirements, and uneven advocacy across diseases affect drug adoption and innovation incentives.- Neuroscience Development Hurdles: The discussion highlights how social stigma around psychiatric conditions, fragmented orphan-disease incentives, and small-molecule exclusivity gaps slow CNS drug progress.- Legislative Fix Imperatives: Contributors outline proposed solutions such as the EPIC Act and expanded orphan-designation policies aimed at restoring balanced incentives for novel therapies.- Ecosystem Collaboration: The conversation covers the essential partnership between NIH funding, biotech startups, and pharmaceutical companies in advancing drugs from discovery to patients. This episode examines the policy, economic, and social factors influencing neuroscience drug discovery and the importance of communicating biotech’s value. It also highlights the need to improve the biotech narrative so that policymakers and the public understand its contributions. It is essential listening for industry leaders, investors, policymakers, and patient advocates seeking insight into innovation challenges and solutions.See omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.
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Jun 26, 2025 • 27min

Ipsita Smolinski: Drug Pricing, R&D, & Global Policy

In this episode, host Duane Schulthess sits down with Ipsita Smolinski, Founder and Managing Director of Capitol Street and faculty at Georgetown University and Johns Hopkins Carey Business School. They unpack the Inflation Reduction Act’s drug-pricing mechanisms, assess economic projections against emerging industry data, and discuss how changing R&D incentives, trade policy complexities, and regulatory uncertainty are reshaping the biopharmaceutical landscape. Key Topics: Data-Driven Strategy: A look at how economic modeling and real-world data underpin policy recommendations for biopharma legislation and health policy. IRA Drug-Pricing Mechanisms: Exploration of CPI-U–based inflationary rebates, the Part D overhaul with a $2,000 out-of-pocket cap, and the phased rollout of Medicare negotiations in 2026. Forecasts Versus Impact: Examination of the CBO’s initial estimate of two drugs every ten years compared to later indications of a far greater effect on individual companies. R&D Incentive Shifts: Analysis of the nine-year exclusivity for small molecules versus thirteen years for biologics and its influence on venture capital flows. Trade, Tariffs, and Regulation: Discussion of EPIC Act prospects, most favored nation pricing proposals, tariff implementation challenges, China’s expanding trial footprint, and the call for clearer FDA and NIH guidance. This episode illuminates how the IRA, economic forecasts, and global policy dynamics are influencing drug pricing, innovation incentives, and supply chains. It’s essential listening for policymakers, industry leaders, investors, and anyone invested in the future of healthcare economics and biopharma strategy.See omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.
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Jun 18, 2025 • 44min

Strengthening Biotech Ecosystems: Steve Potts & Robert Coughlin

In this Vital Health Podcast episode, host Duane Schulthess sits down with Steve Potts, biopharma entrepreneur and chair of the Drug Development Council (ICAN), and Robert Coughlin, Managing Director of Life Sciences at Jones Lang LaSalle, to explore how recent policy changes are reshaping the future of drug development. They unpack the unintended consequences of exclusivity gaps, discuss legislative fixes, and examine the broader impact on patients, investors, and regional biotech clusters. Key Topics:- Pill Penalty Explained: How nine-year data exclusivity for small molecules versus 13 years for biologics discourages investment in affordable therapies for older adults.  - EPIC Act Solutions: A bipartisan proposal to extend small-molecule exclusivity to 13 years and rebalance research and development incentives.  - Orphan Drug Incentives: Proposed reforms that would allow multiple exclusivity periods per drug to drive rare disease innovation.  - Patient Advocacy Role: Strategies for empowering patients and disease foundations to influence policy and protect future therapies.  - Biotech Ecosystem Impact: The effect of policy shifts on venture capital flows, lab space demand, and the health of regional innovation hubs. This episode highlights the critical link between policy design and the pace of medical innovation and why targeted legislative adjustments are essential to sustain future cures. It is a must-listen for policymakers, industry leaders, patient advocates, and anyone interested in the intersection of health policy and drug development. Recorded on May 30th, 2025.See omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.
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Jun 11, 2025 • 32min

Jocelyn Ulrich: PBMs, Policy Risk, and Biopharma’s Future

In this Vital Health Podcast, host Duane Schulthess speaks with Jocelyn Ulrich, Vice President of Policy and Research at PhRMA, to discuss the far-reaching implications of current U.S. drug pricing and reimbursement policies. With a unique journey from opera stages to Senate testimony, Ulrich brings both strategic acumen and firsthand experience in navigating complex policy terrain. The conversation explores PBM consolidation, the fallout from the Inflation Reduction Act, vertical integration in biosimilars, and looming tariff threats - all through the lens of innovation, patient access, and economic resilience. Key Topics PBM Consolidation Concerns: Three PBMs now control 80% of U.S. prescriptions, raising red flags over patient steering, inflated costs, and limited access. IRA's Small-Molecule Penalty: The Inflation Reduction Act's nine-year price-setting for pills versus thirteen for biologics is shrinking investment in elderly-targeted therapies. Vertical Integration in Biosimilars: Insurers and PBMs are now owning biosimilars and pharmacies, limiting patient options and delaying uptake of lower-cost treatments. Tariff Risks and U.S. Manufacturing: Proposed pharmaceutical tariffs could undermine domestic production despite the sector’s significant economic footprint and current exemptions. Rebuilding Innovation Incentives: From the EPIC Act to patient-first rebate reform, industry stakeholders are pushing for legislative fixes that sustain R&D and reduce care disparities. This episode unpacks how policy shifts are reshaping biopharma’s incentive structures, investment flows, and ultimately, patient outcomes. Essential listening for policymakers, investors, and health economists seeking clarity on U.S. pharmaceutical policy and its global ripple effects.See omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.
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May 22, 2025 • 26min

Jenni Nordborg: Life Sciences Governance & EU Regulatory Alignment

In this episode of the Vital Health Podcast, host Duane Schulthess sits down with Jenni Nordborg, Director of International Affairs at The Swedish Association of the Pharmaceutical Industry (LIF), to explore how national and European policies intersect to shape life sciences innovation. They discuss Sweden’s holistic governance model, the strategic framing of healthcare spending as an investment, and the challenges of aligning regional autonomy with EU‑wide regulatory frameworks. Key Topics:- National Strategy Spotlight: Sweden’s comprehensive life sciences strategy underscores government priorities and creates cross‑ministerial governance for innovation.  - Regional Autonomy Dynamics: Balancing national directives with regional healthcare mandates enables tailored implementation and closer patient engagement.  - Funding as Investment: Reframing healthcare budgets as long‑term investments is illustrated by Sweden’s hepatitis C program and emerging prevention initiatives.  - Governance and Collaboration: The Office for Life Sciences and public‑private partnerships align industry, academia, and policymakers for cohesive action.  - EU Policy Intersection: Navigating Europe’s complex regulatory landscape - from data protection periods to strategic autonomy - reveals opportunities to accelerate R&D and access. This episode uncovers the strategic mechanisms behind Sweden’s success in life sciences and offers a roadmap for harmonizing national and EU policies to boost innovation and patient access. It’s essential listening for policymakers, industry leaders, and healthcare stakeholders seeking practical guidance on aligning governance, funding, and regulation for sustainable pharmaceutical advancements.See omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.
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May 12, 2025 • 49min

Donna Cryer: Advocacy, Drug Incentives & Research Crisis

In this episode of the Vital Health Podcast, host Duane Schulthess sits down with patient advocate and Global Liver Institute founder Donna Cryer. They trace her journey from Harvard and the DOJ prosecutor’s office to becoming a liver transplant recipient and a leading voice in healthcare policy. Donna shares insights on orphan drug incentives, the Inflation Reduction Act’s impact on research, the politicization of mRNA innovation, and the current crisis in NIH funding. Key Topics:- Patient Advocacy Evolution: Donna reflects on her transition from DOJ prosecutor to founding the Global Liver Institute and amplifying patient voices in healthcare policy.- Rare Disease Incentive Gaps: An examination of the orphan drug exclusivity landscape and its impact on treatment pipelines for ultra‑rare conditions.- Inflation Reduction Act Fallout: Insights into how Medicare price controls under the IRA are reshaping research priorities and patient access for older and rare disease populations.- mRNA Platform Politics: A discussion on the politicization of mRNA vaccines and the threat this poses to future cancer and therapeutic innovations.- NIH Funding Emergency: A look at the dramatic NIH budget cuts, stalled clinical trials, and the broader implications for biomedical research. Throughout this episode, Donna Cryer and Duane Schulthess unpack the challenges and potential solutions shaping patient‑driven policy, drug innovation, and research funding – insights critical for anyone invested in the future of healthcare. Patient advocates, healthcare policymakers, and industry leaders will find this discussion indispensable for navigating the complexities of innovation incentives and research ecosystems.See omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.
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May 6, 2025 • 59min

VT’s Grumpies Talk IRA with Virginia Acha

In this special Grumpies episode, host Duane Schulthess, CEO of Vital Transformation, is joined by neuroscientist and US Business Director Joe Hammang, consulting economist Dr. Harry Bowen, and MSD Associate VP of Science and Regulatory Policy Virginia “Ginny” Acha. They examine the IRA and question its promise to lower drug prices for Medicare beneficiaries, revealing how it discourages R&D, reroutes venture capital, and restricts patient access. What You’ll Learn Pill Penalty Breakdown: How the 9-year small-molecule vs 13-year biologic exclusivity gap reshapes R&D incentives Investor Exodus: The flight of early-stage venture capital and its implications for future cures Access vs Cost: Why poorly designed price controls can restrict, not expand, patient access Policy Fixes: From the EPIC Act to prize-based innovation rewards, proposed solutions to realign incentives Global Threats: Tariff talk, reference pricing pitfalls, and reshoring risks for manufacturing and supply security This episode is essential for policymakers, industry leaders, and anyone invested in the future of medicine. Download our free IRA impact report at the link below: https://vitaltransformation.com/2025/04/inflation-reduction-act-two-years-on-investor-behavior-rd-impacts-proposed-solutions/See omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.

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