Biotech Hangout

Daphne Zohar, Josh Schimmer, Brad Loncar, Tim Opler & more
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Mar 20, 2025 • 58min

Episode 134 - March 14, 2025

On this week’s episode, Eric Schmidt, Sam Fazeli and Yaron Werber are joined by Biotechnology Innovation Organization's (BIO) John Crowley where they discuss biotech policy shifts, regulatory updates, obesity clinical trials and deal flow. The conversation begins with a focus on the obesity landscape including Novo Nordisk’s CagriSema data, Roche’s partnership with Zealand Pharma and Viking Therapeutics manufacturing agreements, signaling continued investment in the field. John Crowley then leads a conversation on policy and regulatory developments, sharing optimism about a more favorable U.S. policy environment for biotech. He highlights key priorities such as FDA modernization, PBM reforms and domestic manufacturing incentives. Crowley also notes bipartisan recognition of biotech as a strategic asset, though concerns persist around anti-science rhetoric, vaccine skepticism and regulatory challenges. Despite ongoing uncertainty, he sees more opportunities than threats for the industry. On the deal-making front, small-cap oncology acquisitions continue, with Sun Pharma acquiring Checkpoint Therapeutics and BMS consolidating its stake in 2seventy Bio. The discussion also covers biotech pipeline updates, including BioNTech’s disappointing revenue guidance and Legend Bio’s expansion of its CAR-T therapy manufacturing capacity. The episode concludes with insights into the broader biotech market, highlighting the impact of regulatory shifts, M&A activity and clinical trial data. While challenges remain, companies prioritizing innovation and execution continue to be well-positioned for long-term success. This episode aired on March 14, 2025.
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Mar 11, 2025 • 1h 3min

Episode 133 - March 7, 2025

On this week’s episode, Daphne Zohar, Eric Schmidt, Tess Cameron, Brian Skorney, and Yaron Werber discuss the state of the biotech market, emphasizing the resilience of the sector despite current downtowns. The IPO market also remains stagnant, with many companies trading below IPO prices.  The conversation shifts to notable deals, including Jazz Pharmaceuticals acquiring Chimerix for $935 million and AbbVie’s move into the obesity space with its $350 million acquisition of Gubra. The group also discusses Pliant Therapeutics' discontinuation of its Phase 2b trial in idiopathic pulmonary fibrosis and Biohaven's promising results from its Phase 1 study of BHV-1300, a potential IgG degrader for autoimmune diseases. The conversation then covers BMS’ decision to terminate MRTX1133, a G12D inhibitor from its $4.8bn acquisition of Mirati Therapeutics, and the challenges independent biotech companies face post-launch, including investor skepticism and long-term value pressure. In regulatory news, the group touches on FDA and NIH Senate hearings, vaccine policy debates, and concerns over the revolving door between industry and regulatory agencies, particularly with Pfizer’s hire of former FDA director, Patrizia Cavazzoni. They also discuss the broader implications of scientific credibility and public trust in healthcare institutions. The episode concludes with insights on professional networking best practices, emphasizing clear and specific outreach strategies. *This episode aired on March 7, 2025.
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Feb 27, 2025 • 59min

Episode 132 - February 21, 2025

Adam Feuerstein, an insightful author at Stat News, joins the discussion to explore the intriguing world of 'zombie' biotech companies, assessing whether they can be revived or should return capital to investors. He delves into Stoke's collaboration with Biogen and highlights promising gene therapy data for Duchenne muscular dystrophy. The conversation also touches on ethical concerns in biotech fundraising, the challenges faced by Bluebird Bios, and potential mergers like SpringWorks with Merck KGaA, revealing shifting landscapes in the industry.
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Feb 23, 2025 • 1h 2min

Episode 131 - February 14, 2025

On this week’s episode, Chris Garabedian, Yaron Werber and Sam Fazeli discuss the challenges facing the biotech sector, including high interest rates and the overabundance of public biotech companies. The hosts take a look at recent IPOs, noting that Metsra and Sionna have performed well, while others like Septerna and Upstream struggled. Reasons for the market’s reaction to IPOs was also discussed, including concerns about valuation, competition and future funding needs. The hosts also discuss the potential acquisition of SpringWorks by Merck. BioCentury’s Steve Usdin also joins the show to discuss the policy and regulatory environment. He outlines the opportunities and risks for the biotech sector, including potential reforms to onshore manufacturing, IRA Medicare drug negotiation, PBM reforms, FDA and NIH staffing cuts, and much more. This episode aired on February 14, 2025.
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Feb 23, 2025 • 1h

Episode 130 - February 7, 2025

On this week’s episode, Daphne Zohar, Paul Matteis, Brian Skorney, Tim Opler and Abe Ceesay kick off with a more optimistic yet cautious perspective that investor sentiment may be improving. The group notes positive market trends post-JPM with the XBI index rising from 86.5 to around 92 since early January. The discussion also touches on on the re-emergence of wall cross pipes and the impact on generalist investor interest. The hosts discuss the positive M&A outlook for 2025, noting Intra-Cellular’s recent acquisition by J&J. Staying on the neuro theme, GH Research announced impressive data from its Phase 2b trial for a short-acting psychedelic drug for treatment-resistant depression. This extended into a discussion on the broader implications of neuropsych drug development, including the need for experienced management and the challenges of patient selection and managing high placebo responses. Other topics discussed include FDA’s approval of Axsome’s migraine drug, the anti-VEGF therapy competitive dynamics, Trump’s tariffs, and more. This episode aired on February 7, 2025.
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Feb 23, 2025 • 1h

Episode 129 - January 31, 2025

On this week’s episode, Brad Loncar, Chris Garabedian, Eric Schmidt, Paul Matteis and Sam Fazeli kick off with an open mic session on the potential impact of the RFK Jr. hearings and the Trump administration's policies on the biotech industry. The conversation turns to a “unicorn day” with IPOs for Metsara, Maze, Odyssey and Sionna Therapeutics. The group also discusses the approval of Vertex’s journavx and the potential for it to be a blockbuster drug. Akero, Sarepta and Cargo also announced data this week and the hosts summarized the market reactions. Other topics covered include Merck’s buyback announcement and potential impact on M&A activity, Takeda’s CEO, Christophe Weber, steps down, Curie Bio’s new fund, and more. This episode aired on January 31, 2025.
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Feb 23, 2025 • 1h 1min

Episode 128 - January 24, 2025

On this week’s episode, Chris Garabedian, Tim Opler, Sam Fazeli, Brian Skorney and Luba Greenwood begin with breaking news on the obesity front with Novo Nordisk’s next-gen program, amycretin. The conversation transitions to post-JPM public market sentiment and a reluctance in capital markets. On the flip side, the hosts suggest a positive outlook for venture capital investments despite the public market challenges. The group also highlights the active M&A and licensing deal market, including the significant role of Chinese biotechs in licensing deals. The hosts also discusses the impact of Trump’s administration’s actions on the biotech sector, including the freeze on NIH activities and the potential withdrawal from the WHO. Other topics include potential of AI in healthcare, Biogen’s strategic shifts, Nature Medicine paper on GLP-1 drugs effects, and more. This episode aired on January 24, 2025.
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Feb 23, 2025 • 58min

Episode 127 - January 17, 2025

On this week’s episode, Daphne Zohar, John Maraganore, Mike Yee and Sam Fazeli begin the show recapping JPM ’25, noting investor sentiment was muted and concerns on interest rates have contributed to mixed market sentiment. In terms of deals,  three M&A transactions were announced this week including J&J’s plans to buy Intra-Cellular Therapies for $14B, Gilead’s $250M preclinical asset acquisition and GSK’s $1.2B deal with IDRx. Commenting on a challenging IPO market, the group discusses that more private companies are being acquired due to market difficulties and the overvaluation of public companies. The hosts are joined by BIO CEO John Crowley to discuss China’s role in biotech and policy initiatives, FDA reforms and the impact on the biotech industry, and more.  This episode aired on January 17, 2025.
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Feb 23, 2025 • 59min

Episode 126 - January 10, 2025

On this week’s episode, hosts Chris Garabedian, Brad Loncar,Sam Fazeli and Yaron Werber cover a busy news week ahead of the J.P. Morgan Healthcare Conference as well as a preview of what to expect next week at the event. Thegroup highlights some of the mega private deals announced, including three that involved the licensing of China assets. The hosts zoom out with a recap of end-of-year reports, the current state of the market and XBI outlook. On the data front, Jasper reports positive Phase 1/2 data for chronic urticaria, Vir shares data for masked T-cell engagers and Stoke moves into Phase 3 with their antisense oligonucleotide for Dravet syndrome. The group also discusses Novo’s deal with Valo Health, Galapagos’ interesting move with new spin out company, whether we’ve reached ‘peak obesity’ and much more. This episode aired on January 10, 2025.
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Feb 23, 2025 • 59min

Episode 125 - December 20, 2024

On this week’s episode, Brad Loncar, Daphne Zohar, Josh Schimmer, Yaron Werber and Michael Preminger kick off the show with Vertex’s much anticipated Phase 2 study results, highlighting the modest treatment effect and high placebo response. The group also comments on overly positive spin on data and the importance of credibility in interpreting data. The conversation turns to Novo Nordisk’s weight loss data and the market’s negative reaction with stock down 20%. The group also discusses Roche’s termination of its hemophilia gene therapy program, and Teva's TL1A data showing promise in inflammatory bowel disease. Turning to market sentiment, the group comments on Wall Street’s high expectations for new data and the resulting volatility in the market. The hosts also touch on the impact of Chinese biotech investments, potential PBM reforms, Regeneron’s high-dose ILEA trials, upcoming auction of Mitsubishi pharma unit, and more. This episode aired on December 20, 2024.

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