Strategy Meets Reality Podcast

Antifragile is more than a buzzword—it’s a design principle.In this episode of Strategy Meets Reality, Mike Jones sits down with Janka Krings-Klebe—author of The Antifragile Organization—to explore what it means to design organisations that thrive under stress. They unpack why most governance systems constrain innovation, how financial incentives can block adaptability, and why autonomy and accountability must go hand in hand.From ecosystem design to cultural enablers, this is a practical look at what it takes to shift from hierarchies to ecosystems—where learning, change, and resilience are not afterthoughts, but built into the DNA.🔍 In this episode:Why fragility is baked into most governance and budgeting modelsHow antifragile organisations navigate market disruptionDesigning autonomy and accountability togetherWhat value stream thinking means in practiceThe role of learning, culture, and failure in adaptabilityWhy the shift is from stability to direction, not control🎧 Keywords: Antifragility, ecosystem organisation, governance, budgeting, innovation, adaptability, autonomy, learning, organisational design📘 Learn more about Janka’s work: https://www.co-shift.com/ 📕 Read her book: The Antifragile Organization (Amazon) 📬 Connect with Janka: LinkedInSend Mike a Message👂 Enjoying the show? Subscribe and leave a review on your favourite platform — it helps more people find the podcast. 🔗 Full episodes, show notes, and resources: https://www.lbiconsulting.com/strategymeetsreality-podcast 📺 Watch on YouTube → https://www.youtube.com/@StrategyMeetsReality 🎧 Listen on Spotify, Apple Podcasts, and Buzzsprout 💬 Connect with host Mike Jones → https://www.linkedin.com/in/mike-h-jones/

Cybersecurity isn’t just about protecting data—it’s about enabling execution under pressure.In this episode of Strategy Meets Reality, Mike Jones is joined by Glenn Wilson—cybersecurity expert, OODA loop practitioner, and founder of Dynaminet—to explore how the challenges of security mirror those of strategy. From technical debt to tool overload, commander's intent to learning loops, they unpack how poor decision-making, misaligned incentives, and lack of feedback erode both resilience and execution.This is not a technical talk. It’s a strategy conversation about where things break—and what to do about it.🔍 In this episode:Why strategy and cybersecurity face the same execution challengesThe hidden cost of technical debt and over-engineeringWhy developer voice matters for resilience and toolingUsing OODA and chaos engineering to build adaptive responsesWhat commander's intent looks like in securityHow to embed security without killing innovation or joy🎧 Keywords: Strategy Execution, Cybersecurity, OODA Loop, Technical Debt, Developer Experience, Chaos Engineering, Mission Command, Distributed Decision-Making, Leadership, Resilience📘 Learn more: https://dynaminet.com 📬 Connect with Glenn: Glenn Wilson on LinkedInSend Mike a Message👂 Enjoying the show? Subscribe and leave a review on your favourite platform — it helps more people find the podcast. 🔗 Full episodes, show notes, and resources: https://www.lbiconsulting.com/strategymeetsreality-podcast 📺 Watch on YouTube → https://www.youtube.com/@StrategyMeetsReality 🎧 Listen on Spotify, Apple Podcasts, and Buzzsprout 💬 Connect with host Mike Jones → https://www.linkedin.com/in/mike-h-jones/

Most strategy documents belong in a drawer. Real strategy is lived, spoken, and constantly adapted.In this episode of Strategy Meets Reality, Mike Jones is joined by Professor Donald MacLean—physicist, strategist, and founder of Strategy Story—to unpack what makes strategy real, why we confuse it with policy and vision, and how governance is quietly killing adaptability.Donald shares why strategy is emotional before it’s intellectual, why leadership is about enabling sensemaking, and why conversation—not control—is the engine of execution.🔍 In this episode:Why real strategy is spoken, not writtenThe difference between policy, vision, and strategyWhy governance often strangles adaptabilityThe human side of strategic commitmentHow to re-personalise strategy without dumbing it downWhat Clausewitz, Sun Tzu, and football managers have in common🎧 Keywords: Emergent Strategy, Governance, Strategic Execution, Complexity, Systems Thinking, Organisational Design, Engagement, Clausewitz, Storytelling, Open Strategy📬 Connect with Donald: https://www.linkedin.com/in/professordonaldmaclean/Send Mike a Message👂 Enjoying the show? Subscribe and leave a review on your favourite platform — it helps more people find the podcast. 🔗 Full episodes, show notes, and resources: https://www.lbiconsulting.com/strategymeetsreality-podcast 📺 Watch on YouTube → https://www.youtube.com/@StrategyMeetsReality 🎧 Listen on Spotify, Apple Podcasts, and Buzzsprout 💬 Connect with host Mike Jones → https://www.linkedin.com/in/mike-h-jones/

Most strategy frameworks promise clarity—but what happens when there is no map?In this episode of Strategy Meets Reality, Mike Jones is joined by Elsa Henderson—consultant, facilitator, and PhD researcher on “wayfinding” in complexity. Drawing on her work with impact networks and her doctoral research into real-world leadership practice, Elsa explores what it means to make decisions, build strategy, and lead effectively when the future is unclear.They unpack why traditional navigation fails in dynamic environments, why capacity matters more than capability, and how the aesthetics of leadership—the felt experience—shape what we notice, trust, and act on. It’s a rich, grounded conversation for leaders rethinking how strategy and sensemaking really work in practice.🔍 In this episode:What wayfinding means—and why it matters in strategyThe difference between capability and capacity in leadershipWhy frameworks are only useful if you can adapt themPractical wisdom and anticipatory capacity in actionThe emotional and aesthetic dimension of leadership decisionsRethinking time, identity, and feedback in organisational change🎧 Keywords: Wayfinding, Strategy, Capacity, Complexity, Anticipatory Capacity, Practical Wisdom, Leadership, Dynamic Environments, Change, Sensemaking, Aesthetics, Tacit Knowledge, Adaptation📬 Connect with Elsa: https://www.linkedin.com/in/elsa-henderson-48b720132/Send Mike a Message👂 Enjoying the show? Subscribe and leave a review on your favourite platform — it helps more people find the podcast. 🔗 Full episodes, show notes, and resources: https://www.lbiconsulting.com/strategymeetsreality-podcast 📺 Watch on YouTube → https://www.youtube.com/@StrategyMeetsReality 🎧 Listen on Spotify, Apple Podcasts, and Buzzsprout 💬 Connect with host Mike Jones → https://www.linkedin.com/in/mike-h-jones/

Most organisations measure success by profit. Hunter Hastings says that’s the wrong compass.In this episode of Strategy Meets Reality, Mike Jones is joined by Hunter Hastings—strategist, author, and leading voice in systems thinking—to challenge the way businesses define and deliver value. They unpack why profit maximisation blinds leaders to opportunity, how autonomy unlocks creativity, and why removing barriers is the real work of leadership.From shifting the paradigm away from efficiency to focusing on effectiveness, to breaking down the power structures that stifle action, this episode offers a practical roadmap for leaders who want to organise for adaptability and meaningful impact.🔍 In this episode:Why value creation should drive strategy—not profit targetsHow autonomy fuels speed, creativity, and innovationThe limits of efficiency as a business strategyRethinking power dynamics in modern managementRemoving barriers to action across the organisationWhy systems thinking is essential in a boundaryless business world🎧 Keywords: Systems Thinking, Value Creation, Autonomy, Organisational Design, Leadership, Efficiency vs. Effectiveness, Power Dynamics, Strategy, Adaptability, Empowerment📘 Learn more about Hunter: Hunter’s LinkedInSend Mike a Message👂 Enjoying the show? Subscribe and leave a review on your favourite platform — it helps more people find the podcast. 🔗 Full episodes, show notes, and resources: https://www.lbiconsulting.com/strategymeetsreality-podcast 📺 Watch on YouTube → https://www.youtube.com/@StrategyMeetsReality 🎧 Listen on Spotify, Apple Podcasts, and Buzzsprout 💬 Connect with host Mike Jones → https://www.linkedin.com/in/mike-h-jones/

Planning isn’t about precision—it’s about possibility.In this episode, Mike Jones is joined by Johan Ivari—Swedish Armed Forces officer, lecturer at the Swedish Defence University, and author of A Set-Based Approach: Searching for the Problem–Solution Eclipse. Together, they explore how strategy and execution can remain viable in a world shaped by unpredictability and complexity.Johan challenges the illusion of control, unpacks why detailed plans often collapse on contact with reality, and explains how the set-based approach protects adaptability by expanding options, not narrowing them. From mission command and viable systems to cognitive agency and feedback loops, this episode is a rich exploration of thinking, learning, and leading in real time.🔍 In this episode:Why narrative—not metrics—should lead executionThe danger of detailed plans and false certaintyHow viable systems enable distributed action and coherenceWhy leaders must protect their organisation’s capacity to actThe value of affordances and ‘coarse’ planningWhy set-based planning improves decision quality and learning🎧 Keywords: Set-Based Planning, Viable Systems, Mission Command, Complexity, Strategy Execution, Feedback Loops, Agency, Command and Control, Adaptive Leadership📘 Read Johan’s paper: A Set-based Approach 📬 Connect with Johan: LinkedInSend Mike a Message👂 Enjoying the show? Subscribe and leave a review on your favourite platform — it helps more people find the podcast. 🔗 Full episodes, show notes, and resources: https://www.lbiconsulting.com/strategymeetsreality-podcast 📺 Watch on YouTube → https://www.youtube.com/@StrategyMeetsReality 🎧 Listen on Spotify, Apple Podcasts, and Buzzsprout 💬 Connect with host Mike Jones → https://www.linkedin.com/in/mike-h-jones/

Leadership is no longer about maintaining the old—it’s about shapeshifting into the new.In this episode of Strategy Meets Reality, Mike Jones is joined by Louise Le Gat, creator of the purpose-led roadmap, to explore how leaders must evolve in the face of global disruption, systemic shifts, and societal transformation.Louise challenges us to stop being good soldiers of the status quo and become brave builders of the future. From mental model upgrades to organisational reinvention, this is a deep dive into the inner and outer shifts leaders must make to shape what comes next.🔍 In this episode:Why we’re still acting like we’re safely in port—but we’re already in the stormThe move from control to coherence, from managing to shapingHow imagination and purpose redefine value in uncertain timesDismantling survival mechanisms and embracing uniquenessThe inner system shifts that must accompany outer changeCreating spaces for intrapreneurial agility and reinvention🎧 Keywords: Leadership, System Shifts, Mental Models, Purpose-Led, Inner Work, Shapeshifting, Reinvention, Positive Impact, Complexity, Legacy Leadership📘 Learn more about Louise’s work: https://www.louiselegat.com/ 📬 Connect with Louise: https://www.linkedin.com/in/louiselegatSend Mike a Message👂 Enjoying the show? Subscribe and leave a review on your favourite platform — it helps more people find the podcast. 🔗 Full episodes, show notes, and resources: https://www.lbiconsulting.com/strategymeetsreality-podcast 📺 Watch on YouTube → https://www.youtube.com/@StrategyMeetsReality 🎧 Listen on Spotify, Apple Podcasts, and Buzzsprout 💬 Connect with host Mike Jones → https://www.linkedin.com/in/mike-h-jones/

Engagement isn’t a soft skill—it’s a strategic advantage.In this episode of Strategy Meets Reality, Mike Jones is joined by Marcus Dimbleby—former RAF, red teaming expert, and founder of Effective Direction—to explore how critical thinking and challenge cultures sharpen execution in complex environments.Marcus explains why most organisations suffer from self-inflicted complexity, why outputs are mistaken for outcomes, and how empowerment without clarity or capability leads nowhere. From psychological safety to adaptive planning and human-led strategy, this is a grounded conversation on execution that works under pressure.🔍 In this episode:Why red teaming unlocks the best ideas—not just hierarchy-approved onesThe ROI of engagement and the real cost of quiet quittingWhy complexity isn’t the enemy—but confusion isHow psychological safety enables challenge, not comfortThe problem with planning theatre and faux empowermentCritical thinking as the foundation of execution🎧 Keywords: Red Teaming, Strategy Execution, Critical Thinking, Leadership, Organisational Complexity, Psychological Safety, Empowerment, Engagement, Mission Command, Organisational Design📘 Learn more about Marcus’s work: https://www.effectivedirection.com/ 📬 Connect with Marcus: https://www.linkedin.com/in/marcusdimblebySend Mike a Message👂 Enjoying the show? Subscribe and leave a review on your favourite platform — it helps more people find the podcast. 🔗 Full episodes, show notes, and resources: https://www.lbiconsulting.com/strategymeetsreality-podcast 📺 Watch on YouTube → https://www.youtube.com/@StrategyMeetsReality 🎧 Listen on Spotify, Apple Podcasts, and Buzzsprout 💬 Connect with host Mike Jones → https://www.linkedin.com/in/mike-h-jones/

Viability isn’t about predicting the future—it’s about preparing for many.In this episode of Strategy Meets Reality, Mike Jones is joined by Norman Chorn—strategist, scenario thinker, and author—to challenge conventional planning and explore how leaders can make better strategic decisions under uncertainty.Norman explains why conventional alignment makes organisations fragile, why strategic adaptability depends on coherence, and how low-regret bets create resilience without wasting effort. From complexity and culture to leadership ego and strategic ambiguity, this is a grounded take on how to think, plan, and act when nothing is certain.🔍 In this episode:Why efficiency is fragile and redundancy builds resilienceCoherence vs alignment—and why it matters for viabilityScenario thinking and low-regret betsThe role of purpose and culture in strategic adaptabilityStrategy as continuous learning, not annual ritualWhy humility and decentralisation are strategic strengths📘 Learn more about Norman’s work: https://www.drnormanchorn.com/🎧 Keywords: Strategy, uncertainty, scenario planning, coherence, resilience, complexity, strategic alignment, futures, leadership, organisational design📘 Learn more about Norman’s work: [Insert link to Norman’s website or LinkedIn]Send Mike a Message👂 Enjoying the show? Subscribe and leave a review on your favourite platform — it helps more people find the podcast. 🔗 Full episodes, show notes, and resources: https://www.lbiconsulting.com/strategymeetsreality-podcast 📺 Watch on YouTube → https://www.youtube.com/@StrategyMeetsReality 🎧 Listen on Spotify, Apple Podcasts, and Buzzsprout 💬 Connect with host Mike Jones → https://www.linkedin.com/in/mike-h-jones/

We don’t just fight wars with weapons, we fight them with ideas, metaphors, and assumptions we don’t even question.In this episode of Strategy Meets Reality, Mike Jones is joined by Ben Zweibelson—veteran, military strategist, and author of Reconceptualizing War—to explore why our dominant paradigms of strategy are failing us. They unpack the hidden structures behind military thinking, why complexity demands more than doctrine, and how multi-paradigm design can unlock radically different ways of seeing and acting.This is not just about warfare. It’s a challenge to how we think, how we plan, and how we lead in a world that refuses to conform.🔍 In this episode:Why most strategy is trapped in a single paradigmThe difference between functionalism, complexity, and interpretivismHow militaries (and organisations) mistake activity for understandingWhy the irreversibility of time matters for decision-makingWhat multi-paradigm thinking looks like in practiceHow language, design, and philosophy shape strategic failure or success🎧 Keywords: Strategy, military thinking, complexity, war, paradigms, decision-making, design, multi-paradigm, functionalism, interpretivism, uncertainty📘 Learn more about Ben’s work: https://www.helion.co.uk/military-history-books/reconceptualizing-war-.phpSend Mike a Message👂 Enjoying the show? Subscribe and leave a review on your favourite platform — it helps more people find the podcast. 🔗 Full episodes, show notes, and resources: https://www.lbiconsulting.com/strategymeetsreality-podcast 📺 Watch on YouTube → https://www.youtube.com/@StrategyMeetsReality 🎧 Listen on Spotify, Apple Podcasts, and Buzzsprout 💬 Connect with host Mike Jones → https://www.linkedin.com/in/mike-h-jones/