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Stop us when this sounds familiar: two young entrepreneurs have an idea for a disruptive food concept, but lack experience and need help -- with everything. In the case of Amanda Klane and Drew Harrington, who together launched frozen Greek yogurt brand Yasso while fresh out of college, identifying and aligning with the right partners meant building around their vision of success. "When we started the business, we were 23," Klane said in an interview included in this episode of Taste Radio. "We clearly knew we didn't know everything. It was 'how do we find people that are smarter than us and can provide assistance and support, but also allow us to do what it is we love to do and grow the brand the way we want to?'" The strategy has paid dividends. Since its launch in 2009, Yasso, which is positioned as a healthier and low-calorie alternative to traditional ice cream brands, has become a bona fide star in the freezer aisle, racking up over $82 million in sales last year. As part of our interview, Klane and Harrington discussed the inspiration behind the brand, how they identified an opportunity to disrupt a legacy category, the importance of value-added financial partners, and why trash cans became a key part of the brand's marketing strategy. Pizza and ice cream is, of course, a popular pairing. So to go with Yasso's healthier take on the latter, how about a serving of Cali'Flour? The fast-growing brand sells vegetable-based, gluten-free frozen pizza crusts that are made with just four ingredients. Founded in 2015 by Amy Lacey, Cali'Flour has attracted a loyal following and established a thriving direct-to-consumer business. In a recent interview, Lacey spoke about staying ahead of a hot trend, how the brand incorporates consumer feedback into its R&D strategy, and why the company doesn't make hero products. Show notes: 2:35: Elevation, Enlightenment, Expo -- The hosts discuss the migration of Elevator Talk to YouTube and Instagram TV, the release of BevNET Magazine's July/August 2018 issue and cover story on the "31 of the most powerful women in the industry," the upcoming Natural Products Expo East show, and a bevy of new and interesting products that arrived at the office over the past week. 14:26: Interview: Drew Harrington and Amanda Klane, Co-Founders/Co-CEOs, Yasso -- Harrington and Klane are the founders of Yasso, a popular ice cream brand that uses Greek yogurt as the base of its tasty treats. The childhood friends and co-CEOs recently sat down with Project NOSH editor Carol Ortenberg and BevNET CMO Mike Schneider, where they spoke about the brand's ascendance, its innovation and marketing strategy and the keys to its partnership with majority investor Castanea Partners. 35:39: Interview: Amy Lacey, Founder/Owner, Cali'flour Foods -- Lacey sat down with BevNET CMO Mike Schneider at the 2018 Summer Fancy Food Show, where they spoke about the launch and development of Cali'Flour, which is promoted as the "Original Cauliflower Pizza Crust." Lacey, who participated in the Pitch Slam competition at NOSH Live Summer 2017, discussed the brand's origins, how it has attempted to separate itself from competing brands and why listening to its customers has been critical to its growth. Brands in this episode: Mother Kombucha, Up Mountain Switchel, Mother Beverage, Dirty Lemon, Mikey's, Crispy Green, Yoplait, Red Bull, Yasso, Ben & Jerry's, Annie's, Nantucket Nectars, Halo Top, Enlightened, Arctic Zero, Cali'Flour

When considering business decisions, Rip Pruisken, the co-founder and CEO of fast-growing snack brand Rip Van Wafels, asks himself a simple question: "Is it true?" In an interview included in this episode of Taste Radio, Pruisken stated his belief that at the foundation of every decision is a known truth that, when identified and accepted, will present a clear conclusion. "You're trying to really look at the reality and trying to diagnose, 'Okay, well, is this strategy really leading to my goals? Are the people on our team really the right ones to achieve those goals? Are the goals reasonable in the first place?'" he said. "And so, once you go through this iterative process on a regular cadence of 'is it truing?' these different facets of your goals, your work machine and the outcomes, you're… going to understand how to goalset better and then also how to adapt better as a result of your execution through that process." Trusting the process has yielded retail relationships based on value and velocity. As part of the interview, Pruisken discussed the origins for the brand of stroopwafels, a traditional Dutch snack comprised of two thin wafels with a caramel filling in between. He also detailed how Rip Van identifies and leverages captive audiences, such as getting placement in the kitchens of Silicon Valley tech companies, and how it has taken alternative paths to retail for the product, which is now sold at a number of grocery and coffee chains, including 12,000 Starbucks locations nationwide. Like Pruisken, Ely Key, the co-founder and CEO of Up Mountain Switchel, sells a product steeped in cultural traditions. Promoted for its sweet and savory drinking experience and gut health benefits, switchel has been pegged as a trendy beverage to watch for the past few years. In a conversation included in this episode, Key spoke about Up Mountain's efforts to build education and awareness for the brand through storytelling, why listening to its customers yielded critical information about their purchasing decisions, and the importance of working with and learning from your competitors. Show notes: 2:23: A Gut Feeling About This Episode: The hosts examine the emergence of shrub and switchel beverages amid growing consumer interest around gut health, discuss top headlines on BevNET and Project NOSH, and chat about a few recent visitors to the office. 16:55: Interview: Rip Pruisken, Co-Founder/CEO, Rip Van -- Recorded at Dave's Coffee in Providence, R.I., Pruisken discussed the launch and development of his stroopwafel brand, which he co-founded in 2010 while an undergraduate at Brown University. Pruisken spoke about the brand's evolution -- from sales to college students to tech firms in Silicon Valley to Starbucks cafes -- and what he's learned about patience, strategy and meeting Howard Schultz. 43:10: Interview: Ely Key, Co-Founder, Up Mountain Switchel -- In this interview, recorded at the 2018 Summer Fancy Food Show in New York City, Key shares details about the early days of his brand, how he and his co-founders navigated common mistakes without losing their shirts, why he urges business partnerships with family and friends, and how staying close to the ground -- and its primary consumers -- has shaped the company's communications strategy. Brands in this episode: GT's CocoYo, Coconut Cult, Element Shrub, CideRoad, Vermont Village, Fizzy Fox, Superior Switchel, Up Mountain Switchel, Sip City, False-Ox, Bragg's, MatchaBar, Smashmallow, Juice Press, Kween Foods, Rip Van, Chobani

Reflecting on a 31-year-career that has seen him evolve from an acclaimed chef and founder of an award-winning restaurant group to a media personality and successful CPG food entrepreneur, Rick Bayless points to authenticity as the guiding principle in his own journey and as an indispensable element to success in the food business. "I want the real deal," Bayless said in an interview included in this episode of Taste Radio. "I don't want to modify a recipe just to make it more mass." As part of our conversation, Bayless discussed the origins of his food career, the launch, development and eventual sale of his packaged food brand, Frontera Foods, why he was ahead of the game on clean labels and transparency, and his take on the future of food. Like Bayless, Susie Fogelson also has her share of experience at the intersection of food and media. For nearly 15 years, Susie spearheaded marketing strategy for the Food Network and Cooking Channel, culminating in her role as the senior vice president of marketing & brand strategy. In our second interview, Fogelson shared insights gleaned from her career at the Food Network, including the importance of purpose-driven marketing and why transparency is an opportunity for brands to tell a story. Also included in this episode: a conversation with Jamie Meltzer, the founder and CEO of Watermelon Road, an upstart brand of fruit jerky and the winner of NOSH Live Summer 2018's Pitch Slam 4. Show notes: 1:42: Meals, Wheels and West: The hosts discussed Expo West housing, the business of meal kits, including the recent shuttering of Chef'd, and WeWork's transition to a meatless office culture. 12:02: Interview: Rick Bayless, Founder, Frontera Foods -- Recorded at the 2018 Fancy Food Show, Bayless, known for his expertise in Mexican cooking and cuisine, discussed how he cut his teeth in the food business as the host of the PBS series "Cooking Mexican," and the development of his acclaimed restaurant group. He also spoke about entering the packaged food business with Frontera Foods, a brand of gourmet Mexican products that includes salsas, sauces, and meals and its acquisition by ConAgra Foods in 2016 for $108.9 million, a sale that Bayless fleshed out in the interview. 34:23: Interview: Susie Fogelson, Founder, F&Co -- After 15 years leading marketing efforts at the Food Network and Cooking Channel, Fogelson founded founded F&Co., a boutique consultancy that works with food brands to develop a blueprint for storytelling and experiences. In our conversation, recorded at the 2018 Summer Fancy Food Show, she offers her perspective on the evolution of the food space and how brands can best communicate with their consumers. 55:23: Interview: Jamie Meltzer, Founder, Watermelon Road -- Meltzer sat down with us following her big win and experience in NOSH Live's Pitch Slam 4, and discussed her experience in the competition, finding her brand's voice and what's next for her brand. Brands in this episode: Chef'd, Blue Apron, Hello Fresh, Frontera Foods, Hippeas, 4505 Meats, Watermelon Road

Brian Rudolph is a big believer in cold calling. The co-founder and CEO of Banza -- a brand of chickpea-based pasta that's promoted as a protein-rich, gluten-free and nutritious alternative to traditional varieties -- said that while rejection is to be expected with unsolicited outreach, persistence and civility have led to big wins for the company. "We got rejected all the time," Rudolph said in an interview included in this episode of Taste Radio. "Sometimes people just don't answer, but you have to recognize that it's okay to follow up. And a lot times we wouldn't get a response until the fourth or fifth time. So many of our early retail relationships came from cold outreach. You'd be surprised; you can cold call the headquarters of a retailer and say 'who's the buyer for XYZ?' [and] you'll find who it is, and just leave them a voicemail. Of course, be polite, but be polite and relentless." The tenacity has paid off for Banza, which just four years after its launch has become one of the top-selling pasta brands at Whole Foods and Target. Banza is carried at over 8,000 retail locations, is a category best-seller on Amazon and has attracted a rabid consumer following. As part of our interview, Rudolph spoke about the roots of his business, including the impact of Banza's appearance on a reality TV competition, why he's positioning the brand as an "agent of change," when to turn down new retail opportunities, and the company's innovative method for collecting consumer feedback. Also in this episode: A conversation with MatchaBar co-founder/CEO Graham Fortgang. Positioned as a healthier alternative to traditional energy drinks and coffee, MatchaBar has embraced an unconventional approach to marketing its beverages and primary ingredient, ceremonial grade matcha. Fortgang discussed the company's approach to disrupting the energy category, how MatchaBar aligns with influencers and measures their reach and impact, and the company's process for identifying and providing value to its retail partners. We also sit down with founders of Simply Soupreme, Jackie Greene & Taylor Rossi, who were victorious in BevNET Live's New Beverage Showdown 15. Show notes: 2:10: Craven's Cooler: The hosts chat about a Brooklyn Crafted Happy Hour at BevNET HQ, a sampling of King's Brew Nitro-Infused Cold Brew Coffee, detoxwater Cryptokiwi and running into the founder of Chi Kitchen Kimchi. 11:45: Interview: Brian Rudolph, Co-Founder/CEO, Banza -- Alongside his brother and co-founder Scott, Rudolph launched the chickpea-based pasta brand in 2014. In our interview, recorded at the 2018 Summer Fancy Food, Rudolph discussed the early days of Banza, how an appearance on CNBC's "Restaurant Startup" accelerated its growth, the company's mission to be "the Chobani of pasta," and the brand's approach to evaluating investment opportunities and attracting new retail partners. 33:05: Interview: Graham Fortgang, Co-Founder, MatchaBar -- A fast-growing maker and retailer of matcha drinks, the company operates cafes in New York and Los Angeles and its ready-to-drink beverages are sold nationwide at Whole Foods. At the 2018 Summer Fancy Food, Fortgang spoke about how the company works with and provides value to its retail and influencer partners and measures the relationships using tangible metrics. He also discussed MatchaBar recent completion of an $8 million round of funding that attracted investment from music producer Diplo and NFL Super Bowl MVP Von Miller, and an innovative marketing initiative launched in collaboration with Facebook and Whole Foods. 52:40: Interview: Jackie Greene & Taylor Rossi, Founders, Simply Soupreme -- Greene & Rossi, are the founders of Simply Soupreme, a brand of super-premium bottled soups. Victorious in BevNET Live's New Beverage Showdown 15, Greene and Rossi discussed their big win and talked about their experience in the Showdown and the next steps for the company, which was awarded $10,000 in prizes.

A co-founder of Boston Beer Co., the maker of Samuel Adams, Rhonda Kallman has seen her share of success. Yet while she's been to the top of the mountain, she's also seen its nadir. Despite the ups and downs of her nearly three decades in the beverage business, she'll tell you that there's been one constant: there's no substitute for entrepreneurship. Kallman's latest project, Boston Harbor Distillery, extends a career that began in 1984 when she partnered with Jim Koch to create the now iconic Samuel Adams brand. Her path from Sam to spirits included both remarkable success and a decade of adversity, forcing her to overcome several personal struggles and the failure of a new brewing venture. In an interview recorded at her distillery in Dorchester, Mass., Kallman spoke about the defining moments of her journey, her methods for identifying disruptive concepts, why authenticity is the key to marketing innovation and the words that lifted her during the most challenging point of her career. Also included in this episode: a conversation with Greg Steltenpohl, the founder and CEO of plant-based beverage company Califia Farms. Known as one of the foremost innovators in the beverage industry, Steltenpohl, who is also the founder of super-premium juice brand Odwalla, discussed the development and impact of business habits that he's adopted during his nearly four decades in business. This episode is presented by Watermelon Road. Show notes: 2:51: Incubate, Communicate, Masticate -- The hosts discussed highlights and notable exhibits at the 2018 Summer Fancy Food Show, including the event's "Incubator Village," which featured 11 incubators from across the U.S., among them the Chobani Incubator, The Hatchery, and CommonWealth Kitchen. They also spotlight Alpha Food Labs' "The Future Market" which showcased innovative brands Yappah and Ocean Hugger, and chatted about a few interesting products sampled at the show, including those from Peekaboo Ice Cream, Pan's Mushroom Jerky, Harney & Sons Cold Brew Nitro Tea, Tiny Hero Foods, and GT's Kombucha. 12:14: Rhonda Kallman, Co-Founder, Boston Beer Co./Founder, Boston Harbor Distillery -- Kallman shared stories about the early days of Samuel Adams and how the brand focused on an authentic message to drive trial and achieve traction; how she navigated a challenging and ultimately unsuccessful new venture in beer; why she saw an opportunity to innovate in the spirits business; and why it's critical for brands in emerging categories to work together. 36:33: Greg Steltenpohl, Founder/CEO, Califia Farms -- Recorded at the 2018 Summer Fancy Food Show, Steltenpohl offered his take on important business habits and practices, including why listening is essential for successful leaders; how Califia uses "huddles" to create spaces for dialogue; how best to capture innovative ideas; and how to identify and avoid ruts. Brands in this episode: Yappah, Ocean Hugger, Peekaboo Ice Cream, Pan's Mushroom Jerky, Harney & Sons, Tiny Hero, GT's Kombucha, Samuel Adams, Boston Harbor Distillery, Odwalla, Califia Farms

Nothing says 4th of July like BBQ, fireworks and a special edition of Taste Radio. In this episode we highlight the insights and business lessons from four remarkable leaders who joined us on the podcast in the first half of 2018:JUST founder and CEO Josh Tetrick offered his take on systemic problems within the current food system and the singular operating principle that drives JUST's mission. REBBL CEO Sheryl O'Loughlin spoke about the role of empathy and compassion in building successful teams and relationships, and why expressing vulnerability is a critical component of leadership. We also listened as Jagermeister CEO Jeff Popkin explained the importance of being authentic and transparent with consumers, and RXBAR co-founder and CEO Peter Rahal discussed the steps leading up to a major turning point for the brand -- one that is often credited for its remarkable success. Show notes: 2:11: You've Got Mail -- The hosts respond to emails sent in by Taste Radio listeners and answer questions about upcycling food waste and working with manufacturing/co-packing partners. 9:50: Josh Tetrick, Founder/CEO, JUST -- Formerly known as Hampton Creek, JUST merges biotechnology and plant-based ingredients to create environmentally friendly foods, and is best known for its vegan mayo and cookie dough. The company recently introduced a vegan scrambled egg product and is currently working on lab-grown and plant-based meat. Tetrick originally joined us in Episode 95. 20:18: Sheryl O'Loughlin, CEO, REBBL -- Throughout her 25-year career as an entrepreneur and executive, O'Loughlin has been known a passionate leader with a deep commitment to social responsibility. Prior to joining REBBL, she led Clif Bar as its CEO for nearly 10 years and later co-founded and helmed organic baby food company Plum Organics. O'Loughlin was originally featured in Episode 97. 30:35: Jeff Popkin, CEO, Mast-Jagermeister -- With over two decades of experience in the beverage business, Popkin has been at the forefront of several emerging drink trends having held key leadership roles at Red Bull and Vita Coco. Popkin, who was originally featured in Episode 102, is currently the CEO of Mast-Jaegermeister U.S. 35:52: Peter Rahal, Co-Founder/CEO, RXBAR -- Launched in 2013, RxBar quickly became one of the fastest growing nutrition bar brands in the US, with net sales of approximately $120 million in 2017. RXBAR was famously acquire last year by the Kellogg Co. for $600 million. Rahal originally joined us in Episode 109. Brands in this episode: WTRMLN WTR, Misfit Juicery, JUST, REBBL, Clif Bar, Plum Organics, Jagermeister, Red Bull, Vita Coco, RXBAR

How does an industry insider gauge the viability of up-and-coming trends? Well, if you're Bill Weiland, you draw upon decades of experience... and you absolutely consult with your dogs. A veteran of the natural food business for nearly 40 years, Weiland is the founder and CEO of Presence Marketing, the largest independent broker for natural and organic brands in the U.S. He's also the co-founder of BIGR Ventures, a growth equity fund focused on promising early-stage natural and organic products, and whose portfolio includes fast-growing brands REBBL, High Brew Coffee and Bonafide Provisions. In an conversation recorded at BevNET Live Summer 2018, we spoke with Weiland about cutting his teeth in natural foods, his perspective on how the industry has "grown up," how he identifies disruptive brands and concepts and, as noted, why his dogs play such an important role in cultivating the product mix for Presence. Also in this episode: An interview with Alex Whitmore, the founder and CEO of premium chocolate maker Taza Chocolate. Recorded at Taza's facility in Somerville, Mass., Whitmore discussed the story behind the brand, how its focused and uncompromising approach to quality has differentiated Taza from the competition, the evolution of its product mix, and why only recently the company decided to accept outside investment for the first time. This episode is presented by Simply Soupreme. Show notes: 2:44: Cocktails and Dreams (and Pâté and Chocolate): The hosts chat about a recent visit to and tour of the Taza Chocolate factory, mange on organic charcuterie from Les Trois Petits Cochons and test out a countertop cocktail machine called Bibo Barmaid. 13:00: Interview: Bill Weiland, Founder/CEO, Presence Marketing: In a wide-ranging interview, Weiland discussed his background and how he cut his teeth in the food and beverage business, key figures and mentors that helped shape his career, surprising trends and categories that have taken hold in food and beverage, and opportunities and challenges for natural and organic brands as e-commerce retail continues to expand and evolve. 36:38: Interview: Alex Whitmore, Founder/CEO, Taza Chocolate: An influential name in premium chocolate, Taza churns out its bold flavored, organic chocolate using the same stone-ground production methods since it launched 2006. The brand has been at the forefront of the premium chocolate category, driven by high quality standards in sourcing and ingredients. At the company's production facility, located just a few miles from BevNET HQ, Whitmore spoke about Taza's origins, the development of its brand and vertical integration strategy, and the company's approach to innovation. Brands in this episode: Les Trois Petits Cochons, Bibo Barmaid, Taza Chocolate, REBBL, Bonafide Provisions, Ancient Nutrition, Eternal Water, High Brew Coffee

When it debuted in 2005, Perfect Bar was a tough sell to retailers unfamiliar with the concept of a refrigerated protein bar. But Leigh and Bill Keith, who co-founded the brand along with four other siblings and developed the products based on a family recipe that uses healthier ingredients, slowly achieved traction for Perfect Bar through persistence and a focused business strategy. The brand is now carried at thousands of retail chains across the country and is the leader of the blooming set. We caught up with Leigh and Bill at NOSH Live Summer 2018 and discussed the company's journey to become, in their words, a 13-year overnight success, and how intense sampling efforts and grassroots metrics were critical to the brand's development. The British novelist and author William Thackeray is quoted as saying that "Successful people aren't born that way. They become successful by establishing the habit of doing things unsuccessful people don't like to do." But what are those things, those habits? We'll be asking that very question to many successful entrepreneurs in new and upcoming episodes of the podcast, starting with Daina Trout, who is the co-founder and CEO of leading kombucha brand Health-Ade. In an interview recorded at BevNET Live Summer 2018, Daina discussed specific habits that have helped her achieve repeatable, positive outcomes and avoid routine mistakes. Also in this episode: A review of recent top headlines in the beverage business with BevNET assistant editor Marty Caballero. Show notes: 2:45: BTS at BevNET Live/NOSH Live -- The hosts discuss a few behind-the-scenes stories from the NOSH Live sampling experience, beta-testing and brand introductions at BevNET Live (Rise Brewing Co., meet Rise Kombucha!), Mike's sticker pranks and more. 12:50: Interview: Bill & Leigh Keith, Co-Founders, Perfect Bar -- BevNET CMO Mike Schneider met with Bill and Leigh at NOSH Live Summer 2018 where they spoke about the brand's origins and founding story, the innovative way that Perfect Bar sourced data in its early days, how changes in grocery and creativity were crucial in its growth and the importance of the family story for branding. 43:00: In the Newsroom -- BevNET assistant editor Marty Caballero joins the podcast to discuss the recent decision by Howard Schultz to step down as chairman of Starbucks, and Miller Coors' acquisition of San Francisco-based kombucha brand Clearly Kombucha. 46:44: Interview: Daina Trout, Co-Founder/CEO, Health-Ade Kombucha -- Trout explains how a monthly strategy day and one-on-one weekly manager meetings have supported the company's growth and her development as a leader and why accepting every media opportunity turned out to be a bad habit that she has since changed. Brands in this episode: Hella Cocktail Co., Evy Tea, Rise Brewing Co. Rise Kombucha, Perfect Bar, Starbucks, Clearly Kombucha, Canvas, Health-Ade Kombucha

A disillusioned accountant quits his job and enters the coffee industry, where he builds a thriving direct-to-consumer business selling high-test coffee beans -- that's the short take on Mike Brown, the founder and CEO of Death Wish Coffee. But there's a longer tale to be told, and in this week's episode we sat down with Brown, who launched Death Wish in 2012, to talk about his unconventional brand, which is promoted as "The World's Strongest Coffee." In our conversation, Brown discussed the company's origins and early struggles, the evolution of its e-commerce strategy and approach to community-building, and the amazing story of how Death Wish scored a free Super Bowl ad. To pair with the coffee, we also have a serving of pancakes. While Aunt Jemima and Bisquick may be the two best known brands in what's traditionally been a sleepy category, retailers aren't sleeping on Birch Benders, which launched in 2011 and markets traditional and functional pancake mixes, including its best-selling Paleo variety. The fastest-growing brand in the category across all channels, Birch Benders products are now available nationwide in more than 8,000 retailers, including Target, Whole Foods, Safeway, Sprouts. We spoke with founders Matt LaCasse and Lizzi Ackerman about how they identified and assessed the market opportunity for a premium pancake mix, why gut instinct is a key component of the brand's innovation strategy and how they overcame a global egg shortage that nearly derailed a critical retail partnership. Show notes: 1:24: NYC, VC, NBS: On location at BevNET Live Summer 2018, the hosts remarked on a pervasive sense of enthusiasm at the event, discussed John Craven's interview with Vita Coco co-founder and CEO Mike Kirban, and shared their thoughts on a few of the participants from New Beverage Showdown 15. 8:50: Interview: Mike Brown, Founder/CEO, Death Wish Coffee -- In our interview, recorded in the Taste Radion studio at BevNET HQ, Brown spoke about what makes the company's e-commerce strategy so effective and explained why customer acquisition is "all about a relationship." He also explained how a feature on "Good Morning America" almost ruined the brand, the company's all-in approach to winning a free Super Bowl ad, and why he believes that "brands will have to be the media companies of the future." 39:22: Interview: Matt LaCasse and Lizzi Ackerman, Co-Founders, Birch Benders -- Recorded at NOSH Live Summer 2018, LaCasse and Ackerman explained how they identified an opportunity to innovate in the pancake mix category and how they achieved traction with the brand. They also discussed the role of data in business planning and new product development and why "at the end the day, you have to trust your gut about things." Ackerman also explained why it's important for entrepreneurs to "get a little over your head sometimes." 59:36: Tribute: Anthony Bourdain -- Ray and Mike shared their thoughts on the recent passing of Bourdain, a cultural and culinary icon whose influence was felt across the food and beverage world. Brands in this episode: Vita Coco, Origin Almond, Death Wish Coffee, Birch Benders

Even as one of the pioneers of the super-premium coffee set often referred to as "third-wave," Blue Bottle founder James Freeman says he was never interested in being ahead of the curve. For Freeman, creating an innovative and lasting brand is "about working on the negative space." Joining Taste Radio for a conversation in this week's episode, Freeman explained how Blue Bottle has built a unique platform differentiated by ultra high quality products and service by "figuring out what is there and shouldn't [be] rather than figuring out is not there and should be there". The strategy has attracted a loyal consumer base, as well as a powerful strategic partner in Nestlé , which last year acquired a majority stake in the company for a reported $500 million. Listen to our full-length interview with Freeman, who also discussed the origins and development of Blue Bottle, his perspective on the premiumization of coffee and his vision for the future of the company. Also included in this episode: a conversation with Jesse Merrill, who's attempting to change the perception of cottage cheese with innovative and fast-growing brand Good Culture. Merrill explained the company's approach to creating an elevated consumption experience, detailed the two core values that guide its innovation strategy and discussed why he believes in an attitude vs. aptitude hiring process. And in the latest edition of Elevator Talk, we spoke with Melissa Mutterspaugh, the founder of Mountain Mel's, a maker of medicinal herbal teas formulated for holistic health and well-being. Show notes: 2:02: NOSHing Live: On location at NOSH Live Summer 2018, the hosts discuss products and presentations featured at the event. 10:05: Interview: James Freeman, Founder, Blue Bottle Coffee -- Freeman spoke with BevNET assistant editor Martín Caballero about the remarkable journey of third-wave coffee roaster and retailer Blue Bottle Coffee. Freeman discussed the company's business and innovation strategy, Starbucks' influence on the coffee business; why he believes "enthusiasm is infectious," and his dream to "drive across the U.S. and never stop for an inadequate coffee." 37:16: Interview: Jesse Merrill, CEO/Co-Founder, Good Culture -- In an interview with Project NOSH editor Carol Ortenberg, Merrill spoke about how the Good Culture has attempted to change the perception of cottage cheese by creating an elevated consumption experience, the two core values that guide its innovation strategy and why he believes in an attitude vs. aptitude hiring process. 1:02:20: Elevator Talk: Melissa Mutterspaugh, Owner, Mountain Mel's -- Mountain Mel's is a maker of medicinal herbal teas formulated for holistic health and well-being. From mental clarity and stress relief to digestion and immunity, each variety of the brand's loose leaf teas is designed for a specific function. We spoke with Mutterspaugh about the mission and growth strategy for her budding brand. Brands in this episode: Bohana, Highland Farm Foods, Rind Snacks, Watermelon Road, Peeled Snacks, Athletic Brewing Co., Blue Bottle Coffee, Peet's Coffee, Starbucks, Activate Drinks, Good Culture, Mountain Mel's