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Aura Bora is acquired. Hiyo adds $19 million and a strategic partner. And Celsius drops $1.8 billion on Alani Nu. Oh, and Spindrift is back in the soda biz. Yeah, it’s been a busy week, and the hosts have lots to say. We also sit down with Alex Duong, the founder & CEO of Fair & Square and Lena Zhuravsky, the founder of passionfruit centric-beverage brand Passion Joy. Show notes: 0:25: Party Gras. Skeptics & Price Points. Hiyo, Mike! Energy Cannibals. Full Circle. More Pizza? Who Eats Protein Pasta? – Jacqui is prepping for a big event, and it’s not Expo West. Everyone has a take on Aura Bora’s exit, including the Linkedin crowd. What makes Hiyo’s positioning so attractive to consumers.. and investors? So, should we expect folks to have a can of Celsius in one hand and Alani Nu in the other? Perfect – another pizza drink. We love a couple of U.K.-based beverage brands, and a ginseng-centric one from here in the good ol’ U.S.A. We finish with fish and pasta (just don’t overcook it). 36:35: Interview: Alex Duong, Founder & CEO, Fair & Square – Alex is the founder and CEO of Fair and Square, an emerging brand of gut-friendly crackers inspired by childhood favorites.  At a recent networking event hosted by industry organization Naturally San Diego, Alex discussed how his experience in the CPG industry has shaped his approach to brand-building. He also talks about the importance of patience and staying true to core values as an early-stage entrepreneur. 46:17: Interview: Lena Zhuravsky, Founder, Passion Joy – Lena is the founder of Passion Joy, a new brand of sparkling beverages with passion fruit at its core. As part of our conversation, Lena shares her vision for expanding distribution of Passion Joy in the U.S. and internationally, with plans to target major retailers and eventually compete on a global scale. Brands in this episode: Aura Bora, Hiyo, Alani Nu, Celsius, Spindrift, Bubluv, Trip, Kejoy, Perfy, Something & Nothing, Quinn Snacks, Ginsa, Cowbell Hydration, OHY, Brami, Banza, Wild Planet, Fishwife, Heyday Canning, Scout Fish, Hungry Boy Hot Sauce

Sammy Hagar’s passion for tequila runs deep, but his commitment to earning and preserving the trust of his fans runs even deeper. Santo Spirits is where those two worlds meet. The iconic rock star, best known for his time as the frontman of Van Halen, made his mark on stage. But it’s in the world of consumer packaged goods where he truly built his fortune. Sammy is the mastermind behind Cabo Wabo Tequila, a trailblazer in the celebrity spirit revolution that’s now a staple in the beverage alcohol industry. In 2008, drinks conglomerate Campari Group made a historic move, acquiring Cabo Wabo for a groundbreaking $100 million — an unprecedented deal at the time. Nine years later, Sammy made a triumphant return to the spirits world with Santo, a tequila-focused brand he co-founded alongside fellow musician Adam Levine of Maroon 5. Building on the success of Santo, the brand grew even stronger in 2019 when celebrity chef Guy Fieri came on board as a co-founder, bringing his flair and influence to the brand. In this candid conversation, Sammy opens up about his vision for Santo, emphasizing the brand’s dedication to purity and excellence. He shares his insights into the challenges of the celebrity tequila market, why, despite his success with Cabo Wabo, he remains cautious about creating a mass-market brand, and the importance of authentic relationships within the spirits industry. Sammy also discusses his approach to building teams and why, for him, hiring the right people is about finding fresh perspectives, not yes-men. Show notes: 0:25: Sammy Hagar, Co-Founder, Santo Spirits – Sammy shares his mixed feelings about living in California and draws comparisons between the challenges of the music industry and the complexities of the beverage alcohol sector. He also reveals the origins of Cabo Wabo Tequila and reflects on the simpler days of brand-building, when creating a lasting brand felt more intuitive. He discusses the explosive rise of celebrity-backed tequila brands and their impact on the market, providing insight into the creation of Santo and the groundbreaking launch of its “mezquila”—a fusion of mezcal and tequila. Sammy opens up about his early collaboration with Adam Levine, shedding light on their shared vision and why Guy Fieri stands out as someone who outworks everyone in the business. He also emphasizes the importance of entrepreneurs who challenge the status quo, offering his thoughts on how younger generations are reshaping their relationship with alcohol. He also shares his long-term vision for Santo, and how he is positioning the brand for enduring success in an ever-evolving industry. Brands in this episode: Santo Spirits, Cabo Wabo Tequila, Casamigos, Ocho Tequila

How many brands can you name that secured national distribution at Whole Foods just weeks after launching? In this episode, we dive into one such success story: Yaza, a rapidly emerging brand of Lebanese-style labneh. We also test yet another "pizza wine" and chat about Hailee Steinfeld's angelic take on RTD cocktails.  Show notes: 0:25: Call It A Tease. See Y’all Soon. Oh, Yes We Did. Marvelous Miami. We’ve Had Our Fill. First Look. – Melissa Traverse is buckled in for banter and has a surprise in store for BevNET’s community. We’re all headed to Anaheim in a couple weeks – reach out beforehand. Domino’s collaboration with Yellowtail wine garners mixed reviews. We recap Taste Radio’s Miami meetup and spread love to those who attended. Ray casts doubt at the viability of another celebrity-backed beverage alcohol brand, Melissa speaks about digestives and Swedish treats, Jacqui has “blue tea” and John unloads a box filled with early-stage brands. 35:51: Interview: Christian Karim Khalil, Founder & CEO, Yaza - Yaza specializes in Lebanese-style labneh, a creamy, dairy-based spread that has long been a staple in Middle Eastern cuisine. Launched in 2024, Yaza sets itself apart by emphasizing authenticity and health benefits, including high protein and probiotics. In this conversation, Christian shares how Yaza overcame early production challenges, why Whole Foods recognized the brand’s potential, and how he is strategically evaluating potential collaborations to fuel further growth and expansion. Brands in this episode: Yaza, Yellowtail, Bang Energy, Milonga, Sky Barn, Fruga, Gorgie, Shōjō’s Dojo, Little Saints, Lemonicious, Seasa, Scobucha, Verse, MAA+TE, La Gringuita Cookies, Leisure Hydration, OWYN, Brooklyn’s Best, Hummii Snacks, Mela, Big Mama’s Foods, Frutero Ice Cream, Coconut Cartel, Casalu, Angel Margarita, Wilderton Apertivio, Chikka Chikka, Kolsvart, Wilderton, Kamana, Blue Durango, Cuddle, Nooish, Grounded, Chubbies, Cedar’s, Little Sesame, Fly By Jing

In a candid and insightful conversation, Equitea founder and CEO Quentin Vennie and Greg Lowe II, the founder and CEO of coconut water brand 100 Coconuts, dive into the complexities of embracing their Black identity while navigating the business world.  As part of the conversation, they discuss the dual reality of finding support and facing systemic barriers, alongside the evolving landscape of DEI initiatives. They also explore the ongoing challenges Black founders face in accessing capital and the opportunities international markets offer Black-owned brands. Greg also shares the story of securing a major partnership with Disney, highlighting how creativity, culture, and agility set his brand apart from industry giants. He and Quentin also unpack misconceptions about DEI, the long road ahead for equal opportunities, and how their respective journeys are paving the way for other Black founders in CPG. Listen to our first episode of Black Founders Club. Brands in this episode: Equitea, 100 Coconuts, Better Sour

It’s the ultimate question every CPG founder must tackle: How do I make consumers truly care about my brand? The challenge grows even more complex when your brand is built around an ingredient that’s often misunderstood and overlooked. Emily Griffith, founder and CEO of Lil Bucks, a modern snack brand that champions buckwheat as its hero ingredient, knows firsthand the trials and tribulations of creating products that not only require consumer education but also demand a passionate, loyal following. In this episode, Emily shares her journey starting from selling Lil Bucks at farmers markets to becoming a sought-after brand in retail stores. She discusses the importance of clear messaging (think "gut-friendly granola bites") to connect with consumers and how simplicity, rather than over-innovation, led to success.  Emily also talks about sourcing strategies, collaborating with farmers, and the journey to securing key partnerships, including Whole Foods, fundraising for the company’s Series A round and staying grounded as a founder. Show notes: 0:25: Emily Griffith, Founder & CEO, Lil Bucks – Emily and Ray recalled their first conversation at Expo East 2021, before she reflected on the challenges and excitement of breaking into retail in 2021. She talks about the temptation for founders to over-innovate, the difficulty of top-of-funnel marketing, especially when trying to connect with a broad audience and how to collaborate with others while still building her own brand. Emily also explains why hiring an operations leader was a key decision in scaling Lil Bucks and the risks of relying too heavily on one ingredient. She also talks about why getting into Whole Foods was a full court press and why convenience is a key factor in the brand’s innovation strategy. Emily also emphasizes the importance of knowing your brand and processes inside and out when fundraising and why she wasn’t just selling her brand and vision, she was selling herself as a founder.  Brands in this episode: Lil Bucks, Bob's Red Mill, Magic Spoon, Think Jerky

As you may have heard, some people are upset with Poppi. While the soda brand’s Super Bowl ad caused a bit of consternation, we have a different take on it… and that of Liquid Death’s controversial TV spot. This episode also features an interview with Luke Montgomery-Smith, the co-founder of Plink, a brand of flavored, electrolyte-infused tablets designed to create effervescent and hydrating beverages. Show notes: 0:25: Chasin’ Breakfast. No Love. Boozin’ Water? A Wunder-ful Option. Hack Vs. Tip. Sub On A Plane. – Ray is one region away from reaching all four corners of the U.S. in a month’s time, and it seems that no one loves February 14. Liquid Death is still pushing people’s buttons (how many calls did Fox get after that ad?), and “big influencer vibes” aren’t for everyone. Where was Big Soda last Sunday? And, did we miss the signs about Diet Coke? Ray shares a couple egg-celent tips, but realizes he might be a hack host. We also hear about a couple egregious things that happened on Ray and Mike’s flight to Miami. 20:05: Interview: Luke Montgomery-Smith, Co-Founder, Plink - Launched in 2022, Plink is a past winner of BevNET’s New Beverage Showdown. The brand is sold at GNC stores nationally along with dozens of independent retailers, as well as online via its website and Amazon. In this interview, Luke talks about the evolution of Plink’s messaging from one focused on sustainability to that of product attributes, why he describes magnesium as a “game-changer” for the brand and how the company considers merchandising as part of its retail strategy. Brands in this episode: Plink, Liquid Death, Poppi, Red Bull, Glenmorangie, Neau Water, Remedy Organics Tropical Greens Protein, Crafty Counter

Like the effervescent bubbles in her sparkling wine, Emily Heintz believes that true quality always rises to the top. Emily is the visionary behind Sèchey, a dynamic platform that includes a luxury dealcoholized wine brand, a dry bottle shop in South Carolina, and a thriving DTC business offering a wide range of alcohol analogs. Sèchey also curated Target’s non-alcoholic adult beverage set, bringing elevated options to the mass retailer’s shelves. Sèchey’s strategic direction and impressive momentum caught the attention of InvestBev, a private equity firm specializing in adult beverages. In August, InvestBev made an undisclosed investment in the company, with founder Brian Rosen praising Sèchey for having “gotten farther with less than anyone else we’ve seen.” In this episode, Emily joins us for a dive deep into her vision for Sèchey and the journey of building the brand. Framed around a series of true or false questions, Emily discusses the key factors driving the growth of the non-alcoholic beverage category, how Gen Z and Millennial lifestyles are shaping awareness and trial, and why she believes the founder’s voice is the most essential tool in connecting with customers. Show notes: 0:25: Emily Heintz, Founder & CEO, Sèchey – Emily and Ray sample some of Sèchey’s sparkling wine, before she discusses her inspiration to start the company, whether her lack of experience in beverages impacted the company early on and why NA wine has the biggest upside among alcohol analogs. She also talks about what’s driving traffic in Sèchey’s retail store, whether category growth is directly tied to negative health effects of alcohol, and the gap between millennials and Gen Z consumers’ perception of wine. Emily also highlights Sèchey’s partnership with Target, her perspective that the future of NA beverages isn’t in liquor stores, why she’s only somewhat concerned about lower quality options in the space, and why she believes that the first adult beverage for younger generations should be a non-alcoholic one. Brands in this episode: Sèchey, Athletic Brewing, Ghia, Kin Euphoric, Tost, Blind Tiger, Ritual Zero

Someone has to say it: Expo West isn’t for everyone. One host makes a case on why some folks should skip the Super Bowl of CPG… while three others try to prove them wrong. We also sit down with Trevor Burns of Leisure Hydration, an emerging brand of electrolyte drinks making waves in Southern California. Show notes: 0:25: A Better Name. Han Jones & His Scotch. Press Pass Rescinded. Killer Soda. Spicy Pod & Sauces. – The hosts recall a past edition of BevNET’s New Beverage Showdown, before Ray questions an alignment between a legacy Scotch brand and a popular, if aging, movie star. Then the sh_t hits the fan. The hosts engage in a debate about the value of some early-stage founders attending and/or exhibiting Expo West, until everyone agrees on one thing. John and Mike crack open cans of Liquid Death’s new soda-flavored sparkling waters, Ray highlights a “sacred” drink brand, Jacqui gets spicy and everything starts to feel saucy. 29:13: Interview: Trevor Burns, Head of Sales, Leisure Hydration – Launched in 2022, Leisure Hydration markets “electrolyte refreshers” that are infused with vitamins, minerals and adaptogens. Packaged in 16 oz. cans, and available in three flavors, the drinks are distributed throughout California, including at Bristol Farms, Gelsons and Erewhon stores, and also has a presence in several other parts of the U.S., including Texas and the Pacific Northwest. At a recent event hosted by Naturally San Diego, Trevor talked about Leisure Hydration’s methodical retail strategy, the impact of an adjustment to its brand name and how the company landed a big time partnership at seven major airports. Brands in this episode: Leisure Hydration, Glenmorangie, Glonuts, Maazah, Grounded, Liquid Death, Mate Party, Sacred Bev, PODI Life, Tierra Negra, Cleveland Kitchen, Tari

Nona Lim describes the sale of her eponymous brand as “accidental.” The way in which she positioned the company for success and an eventual exit, however, was anything but. Founded in 2014, Nona Lim Foods made a name for itself as a brand of better-for-you, easy-to-prepare Asian meals, including fresh noodles, broths and stir fry kits.  Nona, who first joined us for an interview back in 2020, has long stressed the importance of product-market fit and a deep understanding of business fundamentals – two pillars that played a pivotal role in building a sustainable brand. Her focus and vision helped Nona Lim Foods achieve national distribution, securing shelf space in major retailers like Whole Foods, Target, Wegmans, and Kroger. In 2022, a serendipitous meeting led to the acquisition of Nona Lim Foods by DayDayCook, a food and content brand platform based in Hong Kong. The partnership was seen as a perfect fit, with DayDayCook’s CEO highlighting their shared vision to bring delicious Asian dishes to the U.S., reimagined with clean ingredients for a modern, health-conscious audience. Nona continued to lead the brand as CEO until June of 2024. While the future of Nona Lim Foods is uncertain – its website is currently down and its social media has been inactive since July – Nona remains deeply engaged in the food and beverage industry as the chair of the board for the Specialty Food Association (SFA), which organizes the biannual Fancy Food Show. In this insightful conversation, Nona shares why founders should think intentionally about their "end goal," the importance of generating retail velocity without heavy marketing spend, and why having a well-organized data room is essential for raising funds or preparing for an exit. She also opens up about the emotional impact of selling a business that she built from the ground up. Show notes: 0:25: Nona Lim, Founder, Nona Lim Foods – On location in Las Vegas at the final edition of the Winter Fancy Food Show, Nona talks about the SFA’s decision to rebrand and relocate the event and which booth expectedly drew crowds. Ray recalls her first appearance on Taste Radio in which she emphasized the power of saying "no" to prioritize the right opportunities, why she encourages founders to consider why they are building their businesses and why great packaging only works under certain conditions. Nona also discusses how she met and developed a good rapport with the CEO of her brand’s eventual acquirer, the shifting dynamics of fundraising post-COVID and why she references Amy’s Kitchen when giving advice to early-stage entrepreneurs. Brands in this episode: Nona Lim Foods, gimme Seaweed, Sun Noodle, Amy’s Kitchen

These days, keeping it simple is one way to be different. At a time when brands are packing their products with processed ingredients and novel sweeteners, some companies are taking a stripped down approach… and getting noticed. This episode, which features an interview with Stephanie McGregor, a veteran food and beverage executive and founder of plant-based drink brand Ringa, explores that dynamic. Show notes: 0:25: Mussel-ed Out. RSVP & See You In S.B. Real Corn Flakes. Live Slice. Miso & Pita. Kartik FTW. – Ray shares some important advice about dining out based on recent experience. Our Miami meetup is 10 days away – we’d appreciate it if you register for the event. The ECB folks snack on some premium simple cereal and talk about how consumers may perceive it versus competing products. They also chat about a couple soda brand revamps – including that of a classic brand now marketed as “healthy” – snack on extra crispy pita chips, and highlight a miso-infused tomato sauce and a brand called “DryWater,” before Mike unpacks a box of goodies sent to him from Doosra founder (and CPG king ) Kartik Das. 27:28: Stephanie McGregor, Founder & CEO, Ringa – Launched in 2023, Ringa is a brand of plant-based functional beverages made with all organic ingredients, including moringa, apple cider vinegar and prebiotic fiber from agave inulin. A veteran food and beverage brand executive who has worked with vitaminwater, Pop Chips and Smashmallow, Stephanie talks about her inspiration to launch a beverage brand, how she is attempting to align education about functional ingredients to a common habit, why she’s not chasing demand for gut-friendly sodas, and what she’s learned from taking a slow and sustainable approach to retail growth. Brands in this episode: Ringa, The Real Cereal Co., Ringa, Chef’s Life, Live Soda, Better Booch, Slice, Suja, Sauz, Terranean, Bitchin Sauce, DryWater, Sacred Bev, See The Elephant Amaro, Sip Herbals, Rishi Snacks, Doosra, Baabu, Chikka Chikka, Fishwife, Huwa, Kimbala, Vitaminwater, Pop Chips, Krave Jerky, Bark Thins, Smashmallow, Kuli Kuli