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When the pursuit of success comes at the expense of your mental health, it's time to reevaluate your priorities. That's the perspective of Ann Yang, the co-founder of upcycled produce company Misfit Foods, who recently stepped away from a day-to-day role to focus on her well being. In an interview included in this episode, Yang, 25, opened up about how the stress of entrepreneurship led to unhappiness and depression, and, ultimately, her decision to leave the company. She also explained how therapy has become a critical part of her life, her belief that we live in a culture that "mythologizes who the entrepreneur is," and the resulting pressure to build "a personal brand." Show notes: 1:29: Burger King at BevNET? Impossible! -- The episode's hosts discussed John Craven's recent visit to San Diego and Jon Landis' impending move to the city. They also spoke about a few new products shipped to BevNET HQ, including frozen crispy filled potatoes, pecan butters and clean label dressings. Later, they chatted about the national launch of Burger King's Impossible Whopper, several of which were being delivered to the office on the day of the recording. 14:33: Interview: Ann Yang, Co-Founder, Misfit Foods -- Yang spoke with NOSH editor Carol Ortenberg about the genesis and development of Misfit Foods and explained why she decided to step away from the company. Yang also discussed why entrepreneurs have to make a conscious decision to address their health to avoid burnout and depression, why the natural food industry "has a long way to go in terms of investment in diversity," the fear of saying "I don't know," and why emotional intelligence is a learned skill. Brands in this episode: Swiss Rosti, Impossible Foods, Purely Pecans, Humble Nut Butter, Sunday Provisions, Brizo, Lily's, Misfit Foods

Travis Grillo heard it over and over: "you're crazy." It's a line that many entrepreneurs are familiar with, but Grillo's plan to launch a fresh pickle brand was met with particular derision. Unfazed by the naysayers, in 2009 he opened a small food cart in Boston selling pickle spears to the city's denizens and tourists. The cart became a cult sensation, and Grillo, who used to wear a pickle-shaped costume while selling his wares, made a million dollars by his third year. Grillo's Pickles has since become a nationally distributed brand carried at several major chains, including Target, Whole Foods and Walmart, and generates tens of millions of dollars in sales annually. In an interview included in this episode, Grillo spoke about why he pursued his passion despite the skeptics and explained why he fondly recalls the days when he was struggling and broke. He also discussed the unconventional way that Grillo's got into Whole Foods, how he considers new hires and investment and why he's just as likely to take advice from a homeless person as he would from a billionaire. Show notes: 2:48: Interview: Travis Grillo, Founder/CEO, Grillo's Pickles -- Grillo spoke with Taste Radio editor Ray Latif about his journey from an out-of-work sneaker designer to the creator of one of the fastest-growing food brands in America. As part of their conversation, Grillo discussed the early days of the brand, from selling pickles from the trunk of his car, to the launch of a food cart in Boston Common and how the area's homeless population played a key role in the development of Grillo's. He also talked about why he positioned it as a lifestyle brand based on healthy living and why, in the first few years, he wanted Grillo's "to look smaller than we really were." Later, he explained his approach to conflict resolution in the office, and creating a "chill" atmosphere and where he draws inspiration for new products. Brands in this episode: Grillo's Pickles, Claussen Pickles

Two years after launching his plant-based protein bar brand No Cow in 2015, founder/CEO Daniel Katz was burning the candle at both ends, sleeping in his office and working 18-hour days, seven days a week. He was just 20 years old and primarily running the business on his own, but was already accustomed to the hustle and grind of entrepreneurship, having launched several businesses in his teens. Eventually, Katz's hard work began to pay off. By 2017, No Cow had achieved national distribution at a broad range of retailers, was generating $10 million in sales and landed an investment from General Mills' 301 INC venture capital unit. Today, the brand is sold at Walgreens, Wegmans, CVS, The Vitamin Shoppe, and Kroger, and is expected to reach $20 million in revenue by the end of the year. In an interview included in this episode, Katz spoke about his passion for entrepreneurship and the genesis of No Cow, which he launched with no business plan or extensive market research. He also discussed his initial "play the numbers" retail strategy and why it worked, why he rarely asks for advice, and the decision to hire a veteran CPG executive as CEO and why Katz was back in the role just a year later. Show notes: 0:48: This Is Your Shot to Focus, Strategize and Meet a Genie -- The hosts discussed recent visits to BevNET HQ by the founders of an herbal energy shot, a line of functional lemonades, and a new brand of switchel-inspired beverages. They also spoke about a new machine being described as the "Keurig of Food," ways that service and supplier companies can improve their marketing strategies, and the most recent issue of BevNET Magazine. 11:00: Interview: Daniel Katz, Founder/CEO, No Cow -- In an interview recorded by phone, Katz spoke with Taste Radio editor Ray Latif about his career as an entrepreneur, which began in his teens. He also discussed his decision to drop out of college after just three months and start an energy drink brand," how he identified plant-based protein as a sustainable and long-term trend and how it led to the creation the launch of No Cow. Katz also talked about why he has always viewed No Cow as a national brand and how The Vitamin Shoppe became the company's first retailer and what it taught him about the value of leverage. Later he explained why he doesn't rely on advisors or mentors for support, and why he chose to partner with General Mills' 301 INC unit. Brands in this episode: Vitaminwater, Hemp2o, Kafina, Moti, Petal, White Claw, Chobani, Genie, Juicero, Sound Sparkling Tea, Seasons Sparkling, Cham Tea, Perfect Bar, Corina's Switchy, No Cow, Vega, Quest Nutrition, Coca-Cola, Pepsi

When offering his take on the man affectionately nicknamed "The Beverage Whisperer," Vita Coco co-founder/CEO Mike Kirban might have said it best: "I don't believe there is anyone in the beverage world that needs a reference letter less than Ken Sadowsky." As one of the industry's best known and most respected insiders, Sadowsky is a longtime investor and advisor to many high-profile and category leading brands, including Vitaminwater, Vita Coco, Bai, Hint and Califia Farms. He's also a senior advisor to Verlinvest, a Belgium-based investment holding company founded by the owners of Anheuser-Busch InBev, and the Executive Director of NIDA, a group of independent beverage distributors in the Northeast. In an interview included in this episode, he spoke about his background in the business and how he assesses opportunities to align with and invest in early stage brands. He also offered his perspective on leadership, why he believes that entrepreneurs should be wary of indecisiveness and shared his thoughts on notable categories and emerging trends. Show notes: 2:33: Interview: Ken Sadowsky, The Beverage Whisperer -- Sadowsky sat down with Taste Radio editor Ray Latif and BevNET CMO Mike Schneider at BevNET HQ for a conversation that began with Sadowsky recounting the early days of his career working at his family's distribution company. He also spoke about his investment strategy, why it's occasionally a "Ready. Fire. Aim." approach and why "by the end of the evaluation period, it's much more about the person than the product." Later, he discussed his involvement with Bai, spoke about the role of decisiveness and confidence as a characteristic of good leaders and why standing out on shelf is a requirement of package design. Finally, he reflected on past and present trends, including why CBD could be promoted as "anti-energy," and the rise of "sober curious" beverages. Brands in this episode: California Cooler, Bartles & Jaymes, Zima, Hint, Bai, Vita Coco, Vitaminwater, Sambazon, Essentia, Forto, Califia Farms, Kona Red, Red Bull, Monster Energy, Coco Cafe, GURU Energy, Dark Dog Energy, Runa, Guayaki, TeaRIOT, Marley's Mellow Mood, Just Chill, GoodBelly, Riazul, Corina's Switchy, Seedlip

Ray DeRosa, the founder and CEO of dandelion-based tea brand Lion Tea, knows that it's an uphill battle getting consumers to understand why they should drink his products. How do you communicate the detoxifying and digestive health benefits of the beverages without a significant financial investment in consumer education that start-up companies like his rarely have? As DeRosa explained in an interview included in this episode, he's tackled this issue by using a simple, yet powerful and efficient method to create brand loyalists: direct conversations with potential consumers. "There's really nothing that compares in the early days to just talking to 50 or 75 people about your product," he said. "It took us a long time to realize that if we let people try our product and understand the functionality, they're going to come back for it." As part of our interview, DeRosa shared his journey as a beverage entrepreneur and how he weathered early stumbles on his way towards securing national distribution for Lion Tea at natural grocery chain The Fresh Market and a fast-growing e-commerce business on Amazon. He also spoke about why "finding the partners that are going to provide you extraordinary support in the early days ultimately make you successful" and how mentorship from Health-Ade Kombucha Co-Founder/CEO Daina Trout supported his development as a leader. Show notes: 1:36: A Scary Way to Start The Show -- The hosts discussed the variety of new shot brands and products that came into the office this week, including a line of CBD-infused shots from Sunday Scaries, whose booth at Expo West 2019 had an impact on BevNET CMO Mike Schneider. They also spoke about why the direct message feature on Instagram has become a useful way to communicate with industry professionals, why Mike isn't crazy about "yummus," and an interesting new brand of matcha beverages. 11:00: Interview: Ray DeRosa, Founder/CEO, Lion Tea -- DeRosa spoke with Taste Radio editor Ray Latif about how his experience with a rare eye condition spurred the creation of Lion Tea, his experience as a competitor in New Beverage Showdown 13 at BevNET Live Summer 2017 and why entrepreneurs should be realistic about rapid growth expectations. He also explained why simply surviving the first two years provided the company with a foundation for growth, why he "drew a line in the sand" when reassessing Lion Tea's retail strategy and how it benefited the company, why brand ambassadors have been critical to the brand's development and how he collates and quantifies raw sales data from Amazon. Brands in this episode: Sunday Scaries, Ethan's, Stonyfield Farm, Back Bay Roasters, Just N' Case, Grillo's, Min's Matcha, Lion Tea, Health-Ade Kombucha

Immersed in the booming business of esports, G Fuel, a fast-growing brand of gamer-focused energy powders and ready-to-drink beverages, is pressing all the right buttons. Since its debut in 2014, G Fuel's rapid ascent has mirrored that of competitive video gaming, an industry expected to top $1 billion in revenue this year. Having amassed a loyal following of esports participants and enthusiasts, G Fuel products generated overall sales of $25 million last year; according to Cliff Morgan, founder of G Fuel parent company Gamma Labs, its powders alone are currently pulling in $1 million per week. In an interview included in this episode, Morgan, an investment banker turned beverage entrepreneur, spoke about G Fuel's development and how it has been able to weave itself into the social fabric of the gaming community through influencer marketing, partnerships and original content. He also discussed the importance of constant and focused interaction with G Fuel's consumers through digital platforms like Twitch and why he's taken a personal interest in the brand's social media initiatives. Show notes: 2:41: Cliff Morgan, Founder/CEO, Gamma Labs -- In a call with Taste Radio editor Ray Latif, Morgan spoke about the emergence of esports in mainstream culture, including the recently held Fortnite World Cup, a gaming competition that attracted two million viewers. He also discussed the genesis of the brand's alignment with esports, its communication strategy and how it works with influencers to create "an authentic integration within the gamer lifestyle." He also explained the company's hiring process, why most employees engage with consumers via their personal social media accounts and how Twitch, a live streaming platform popular with the gaming community, has become a critical part of the brand's marketing strategy. Finally, Morgan spoke about the opportunities and challenges in launching G Fuel's ready-to-drink line, which debuted earlier this month. Brands in this episode: G Fuel, Bang, Monster, Red Bull

In this episode, we're joined by Rizal Hamdallah, the Global Chief Innovation Officer of Ocean Spray, for a discussion about how companies of all sizes can use innovation to positively impact the food system. Hamdallah recently arrived at Ocean Spray from Tyson Foods, where he served as managing director of the company's Innovation Lab, an incubation unit designed to rapidly bring new and potentially disruptive products to market. In his current role, he's focused on a similar mission: helping the farmer-owned cooperative develop new, health-focused products. As part of our conversation, Hamdallah explained why he's bullish about the future of personalized nutrition, how the company attempts to "develop and deliver innovative products that consumers didn't even know they needed," why he views Ocean Spray's size as a key advantage over smaller companies, and why he's critical of how some brands are promoting sustainability. Show notes: 1:16: Livin' That New-Age Life -- The hosts sipped and snacked their way through a dozen new food and beverage products sent to the office over the past week, including CBD-infused coconut water and coffee, cheese-dusted granola, and chocolate-covered chickpeas. Later on, Mike remarked on the number of new hydration-focused powders coming to market. 15:33: Rizal Hamdallah, Global Chief Innovation Officer, Ocean Spray -- In an interview recorded at Ocean Spray's new Boston office, Hamdallah spoke with Taste Radio editor Ray Latif about his new role with the company, why he views Boston as a key hub for the food and beverage industry, how he defines "innovation" and the elements of an innovative concept. He also explained why companies need to incorporate the "self-centered" mentality of modern consumers into their innovation strategy, why leaders have to "walk the walk," and why testing and learning must include constant iteration. Finally, he offered his take on a few major food trends, including plant-based formulations, reduced sugar and sustainability. Brands in this episode: C-WTR, Good Day, Nix and Kix, Seven Teas, Moti, Health-Ade Kombucha, Coco To Go, Bumble and Butter, Smartfood, Stonyfield, lil'gourmets, Lebby Snacks, Biena, Whoppers, Gatorade, BodyArmor, Skratch Labs, Superieur Electrolytes, Cure Hydration, Benni, SoS Hydration, Liquid I.V., Barnacle Foods, Ocean Spray, Tyson Foods

If you're familiar with yerba mate, you're probably familiar with Guayaki. Founded in 1996, Guayaki was one of the first companies to introduce yerba mate -- a naturally caffeinated herbal infusion native to South America -- to U.S. consumers. In the years since, the brand, which markets a range of ready-to-drink and loose leaf products, helped create a loyal and rapidly expanding market for the beverage, while establishing itself as a vertically integrated company driven by responsible and sustainable business practices. In an interview included in this episode, co-founder David Karr discussed why a focus on "regenerative thinking" throughout the company's growth has guided its business strategy, rather than "an end dollar, an end goal." "There's no end game," he said. "It's a mindset. The greatest influence we're going to have as a tribe or as a collective is to inspire rather than to have to do it all ourselves." Within our conversation, Karr opened up about Guayaki and its origins, how the brand creates evangelists for yerba mate, why he considers the business as "a reforestation vehicle," how the company communicates its mission to consumers and its unique approach to distribution and hiring. Show notes: 2:29: David Karr, Co-Founder, Guayaki -- Karr met with BevNET CMO Mike Schneider in Brooklyn and discussed his journey as the co-founder of Guayaki. Karr explained how the brand got its name, how his experience studying abroad in Europe shaped his business perspective and the story of his introduction to mate via co-founder Alex Pryor. He also spoke about why he abandoned plans to start a tech company in favor of launching Guayaki, the early days of demoing the brand across California in a Volkswagen bus and having personally served millions of cups to consumers, why he believes that "time is an illusion" and what it makes to "make it" as an entrepreneur. He also discussed Guayaki's "Market Driven Regeneration" business model and how he measures its impact, staying privately-owned, the company's approach to self-distribution and its goal to hire 10,000 formerly incarcerated people over the next decade. Brands in this episode: Guayaki, Red Bull

This week's episode features interviews with the founders of three innovative brands and focuses on how each landed placement in their dream retailers. Jesse Wolfe, the founder of dressing brand O'Dang Hummus, Lisa Curtis, the founder of Kuli Kuli, a brand of moringa-based foods and beverages and Tyler Noyes, the co-founder of meat snack brand Kalahari Biltong, discussed their respective paths into popular chains, including Publix, Walmart, Sam's Club and Wegmans, and revealed key steps along the way. Show notes: 1:21: The European Kombucha Tour & Pickles On a Beach -- The episode opens with John Craven fiddling with adaptogenic drops, discussing his recent visit to Europe and recounting the variety of kombucha brands he saw during his travels. The hosts also bantered about a kombucha product created for SodaStream, munched on superfood bars with compostable packaging, pondered as to whether Ray's beach attire is dissimilar from his everyday outfit, and spoke about a few ready-to-pour cocktail brands. 16:48: Interview: Jesse Wolfe, Founder/CEO, O'Dang Hummus -- In an interview recorded at the 2019 Summer Fancy Food Show, Wolfe spoke about the years-long process of getting O'Dang Hummus, a brand of hummus-based dressings, into Publix, a Florida-based chain of conventional grocery stores. Wolfe went into detail about how the brand, now distributed at 1,200 Publix locations, was conceived, why he believed that Publix was the right fit, his first interaction with the retailer, how an appearance "Shark Tank" kept it out of the chain and how the company ultimately won acceptance on shelf. 33:45: Interview: Lisa Curtis, Founder/CEO, Kuli Kuli -- Curtis, who appeared Taste Radio Ep. 98, sat down with editor Ray Latif at the 2019 Summer Fancy Food Show, for an interview about how Kuli Kuli landed at Walmart. As part of their conversation, Curtis explained why Walmart had been in her sights nearly since the brand's inception, how years of persistent email communication with a buyer eventually led to a key meeting, and why sales data was a critical part of getting on shelf. She also spoke about how an unplanned car ride with a fellow entrepreneur played an important role in winning placement at Sam's Club and why the wholesale/club retailer was interested in bringing the brand into its stores. 46:18: Interview: Tyler Noyes, Co-Founder, Kalahari Biltong -- Noyes met with Latif at BevNET HQ in Watertown, Mass. and spoke about the origins of Kalahari Biltong, a brand of thinly-sliced meat snacks, and why he identified Wegmans, a regional grocery chain known for its product selection and shopping experience, as its ideal retailer. He also explained how the company's strong relationship with its national distribution partner, paved the way to placement at Wegmans, how e-commerce data helped seal the deal, and how Kalahari is supporting the brand at the retailer's nearly 100 locations. Brands in this episode: Lokai, Health-Ade, SodaStream, Soda Press Co., MiO, GT's Kombucha, LivBar, Clif Bar, Rick's Picks, On The Rocks, LIQS, Fireball, Knob Creek, Cruzan Rum, Straightaway Cocktails, OWYN, Soylent, Fly By Jing

A pioneer of premium candy, Jelly Belly made its name by infusing jelly beans with innovative and oddball flavors, like buttered popcorn, juicy pear, strawberry cheesecake and toasted marshmallow. Driven by consumer demand for new and interesting flavor experiences, the brand has consistently pushed the envelope with product development, an innovation strategy that's resulted in plenty of wins, along with a few howlers. However, in an interview included in this episode Jelly Belly president/CEO Lisa Rowland explained her belief that "you never know when our failures are going to be something that may turn into one of our greatest successes." As an example, Rowland recounted how one disastrous flavor (cheese was involved) that never made it to market turned out to be quite useful down the line. Also within our interview, Brasher explained how Jelly Belly's focus on creating unique experiences for its consumers has contributed to its evolution into an iconic brand. She also discussed the impact of the brand's relationship with Ronald Reagan, how "better for you" and functional varieties fit into the portfolio and how the company collects and incorporates consumer feedback into new product development. This episode is presented by Flavorman, the beverage architects. Show notes: 2:38: Lisa Rowland Brasher, President/CEO, Jelly Belly -- In an interview recorded at the 2019 Summer Fancy Food Show, Brasher spoke with Taste Radio editor Ray Latif about the history of the Jelly Belly brand, which made its debut in 1976. She also discussed how Jelly Belly has maintained its strong brand equity amid an evolving market for candy, why the company positions its products as "gourmet" and why visual appeal is just as important as taste for jelly beans. Brasher also spoke about the company's innovation strategy and how its "better for you" and functional varieties, including sugar-free jelly, organic, and "sport" jelly beans, fit into the brand portfolio, and why it created booger and barf flavors (yes, you read that correctly). Later, she discussed how the company addresses challenges as a family-owned business and the importance of communication when working across multiple generations. Brands in this episode: Jelly Belly, A&W, Krispy Kreme