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In this episode, we feature an interview with Shilen Patel, the co-founder of Distill Ventures (DV), a U.K.-based venture capital firm and accelerator that invests in disruptive distilled spirit companies and non-alcoholic beverage brands. Launched in 2013, DV is backed by Diageo, the global spirits conglomerate whose portfolio includes iconic brands like Johnnie Walker and Bulleit Bourbon. Over the past six years, DV has invested approximately $80 million in over 15 small and early-stage brands, including Westward American Single Malt whiskey and non-alcoholic spirit Seedlip. As part of our conversation, Patel discussed DV's mission and relationship with Diageo, why he's bullish about the future of low- and no-alcohol adult beverages, and why quality is of paramount importance to DV's investment philosophy. Show notes: 1:15: An Ode To Press Your Luck, Kelp Jerky, #GGMU -- The episode's hosts convened for a conversation about Ray's former dream job (note: he's living the current one), why Jay-Z might be at Taste Radio Live and why John is not a fan of plant-based snack brands that describe their products as "jerky." They also discussed Carol's recent trips to Denver and New Orleans, and a fabulous new product that celebrates the greatest Premier League team of all time. 16:55: Interview: Shilen Patel, Co-Founder, Distill Ventures -- Patel met with BevNET's John Craven and Mike Schneider in London and spoke about the formation of DV and why he believes that investing is brands is about "going slower to get faster." He also discussed why DV has an "entrepreneur first" mindset, the diverse reasons behind consumers' increasing interest in non-alcoholic adult beverages and why those products have to be "equal to or better" than a consumer's favorite alcoholic drink for them to be successful. He also shared his perspective on the growth opportunity for non-alcoholic adult beverages, his greatest fear for the segment and DV's criteria for funding new concepts. Brands in this episode: D'Usse, Zuma Valley, Akua, The Mushroom Benefit, Solely Jerky, Enjoy Life, Minor Figures, Big Easy Bucha, Chivas Regal, Johnnie Walker, Bulleit Bourbon, Seedlip, Westward Whiskey, Starward Whiskey, Stauning Whiskey

It's commonplace these days to see household and personal care products that are designed to be better for you and less harmful to the environment. But not too long ago, those items were few and far between, marketed by just a handful of brands -- one of which was Seventh Generation, a mail order business co-founded by Jeffrey Hollender. Launched in 1988, the company gradually evolved into a pioneering retail brand known for social responsibility and sustainable practices. In 2016, consumer products conglomerate Unilever purchased Seventh Generation for an estimated $700 million. Despite an acrimonious split with the company in 2010, Hollender eventually returned as a board member in 2017. He's also currently the CEO and co-founder of the American Sustainable Business Council (ASBC), an advocacy group that represents the interests of socially responsible companies and an adjunct professor of sustainability and social entrepreneurship at NYU's Stern Business School, as well as a member of the board at Greenpeace. In the following interview, Hollender spoke about the ASBC's mission, his initial foray into entrepreneurship, the genesis of Seventh Generation and how the company eventually grew into its own. He also explained why he embraced the nickname "Chief Inspired Protagonist" and what he believes were the reasons behind his ouster. Later, he discussed the ways in which he supports socially responsible companies and progressive causes and why he urges brand owners to confront the reality that their products may be "less bad" rather than truly good. Show notes: 3:16: Interview: Jeffrey Hollender, Co-Founder, Seventh Generation -- Hollender spoke with Taste Radio editor Ray Latif for an expansive conversation about his business career, which began with producing audio educational courses. He also explained why his mission in life is "to fundamentally alter the negative trajectory that our world is on" and how his work with the American Sustainable Business Council fits into that goal. Later, he discussed the creation of Seventh Generation, how he educated himself about the business of consumer products, his rift with co-founder Alan Newman and what sparked a turning point for the brand. Later, he spoke about why he stepped down as CEO and why he was unhappy with his replacement, and urged entrepreneurs to be extremely careful about their investment partners. Finally, he discussed how he evaluates opportunities to invest in early-stage companies, such as organic energy shot brand Kafina. Brands in this episode: Seventh Generation, Ben & Jerry's, Stonyfield, Patagonia, Lego, Organic Valley, Magic Hat, Sustain Natural, Kafina Energy

In this episode, we feature an interview with Jason Shiver, CEO of fast-growing sparkling water brand Waterloo, who discussed his strategy for winning in a crowded and highly competitive category. Launched in 2017, Waterloo, which is promoted as healthier and more flavorful than competing brands, is backed by high-profile private equity firm CAVU Venture Partners and led by a team of experienced operators, including Shiver, an industry veteran whose resume includes roles at AriZona Beverages, Glutino and SkinnyPop. The company has pursued an aggressive growth strategy, and in just two years Waterloo has become one of the leading sparkling water brands in the natural channel and is carried nationally at Whole Foods and The Fresh Market. In the following interview, Shiver spoke about Waterloo's fast start, why the brand's co-founders hired him as CEO and how he's applied lessons from past work to his current role. He also addressed growing concerns about added natural flavors, the challenges of managing rapid growth and how he establishes and communicates metrics for success. Show notes: 1:41: What Will Come of VMG's New Snacking Platform? -- The episode's hosts chatted about a new grapefruit flavor from New Beverage Showdown 16 winner HopTea, how to save $200 on a ticket for BevNET Live Winter 2019, and some of the speakers and panels on tap for the event. They also touched on a $3 million raise for premium mixer brand Owen's Craft Mixers and spoke about Popchips/RightRice founder Keith Belling's upcoming appearance at NOSH Live Winter 2019. Later, they discussed news that VMG, an influential private equity firm has launched a new platform that will that will acquire, incubate and grow snack brands. 15:32: Interview: Jason Shiver, CEO, Waterloo -- Shiver spoke with Taste Radio editor Ray Latif about the formation and mission of Waterloo, his career experience prior to joining the company and why building a team of industry veterans was important to avoiding mistakes. He also explained why the company set out to hit the ground running, addressed concerns about added natural flavors, and why he's "not trying to guess where the category is going." Later, he discussed how Waterloo factors competition into its growth strategy, why he compares his work experience at Atkins to getting a doctor's degree and how he speaks to employees about the long-term vision for the brand. Brands in this episode: HopTea, Dixie Elixirs, AriZona Beverages, Brew Dr. Kombucha, Fiji Water, Owen's Craft Mixers, PopChips, Justin's, Spindrift, Humm Kombucha, Naked Juice, From The Ground Up, OWYN, SkinnyPop, SweetLeaf Tea, Bragg, Vitaminwater, Arctic Zero, Waterloo Sparkling Water, LaCroix, Bubly, Glutino, Atkins

Melissa Hartwig Urban, the co-founder/CEO of Whole30, wants to clear up a couple misconceptions about the popular 30-day lifestyle program: it isn't a diet, and, it isn't for everyone. What's indisputable, however, is that Whole30 is a cultural phenomenon that has attracted millions of followers, many of whom adhere to its paleo-centric guidelines even after they complete the program. As a result, Whole30 has grown to influence how many food and beverage brands market and formulate their products, including through its product certification program. In an interview included in this episode, Urban spoke about the origins of Whole30, why she describes it as a short-term "experiment," and why she is staunchly opposed you against the idea of moderation. She also discussed the selective process for brands to become "Whole30 approved," why coffee brands are not a part of the program and why most of her work time is spent direct messaging with members of the Whole30 community. She also addresses pushback about promoting processed foods, why being a parent gives her street cred with her community, and why she decided to open up about past challenges in order to have a more authentic connection with Whole30 followers. Show notes: 2:42: Interview: Melissa Hartwig Urban, Co-Founder/CEO, Whole30 -- In a call with Taste Radio editor Ray Latif, Urban discussed the genesis and mission of Whole30, the program's dietary guidelines, and why it is "not meant to be sustainable." She also explained why she rejects 9 out of 10 brands that apply to become "Whole30 approved," why she doesn't always abide by Whole30's rules and why she doesn't respond to criticism about the program. Later, she discussed Whole30's partnership with meal delivery companies, the importance of accessibility to the program and how she's learned that "you can't let perfect be the enemy of good." She also spoke about her investment philosophy, whether being a parent has changed her outlook on Whole30 and the ways in which the program will evolve and grow over the next decade. Brands in this episode: Justin's, Applegate, Organicville, nutpods, Waterloo, Epic Provisions, Serenity Kids, SeaSnax, RXBAR, LARABAR, Tin Star Foods, Mesa De Vida, New Primal, Primal Kitchen

The tagline for Ithaca Craft Hummus is simple and direct: "This Hummus Tastes Fresh." For founder/president Chris Kirby, the mission to build a disruptive yet profitable brand is just as clear cut. Launched in 2013, Ithaca's ultra fresh flavor -- derived from cold-pressed ingredients and non-thermal pasteurization -- has helped the brand build a consumer following and gain placement in thousands of retail stores across the country, including Wegmans, The Fresh Market and Publix. Throughout Ithaca's development, Kirby has emphasized a scrappy approach to growth that's based on strong relationships with his co-packer and retail partners. The result has been a lean, profitable operation that is now one of the fastest-growing hummus brands in the U.S.. In an interview included in this episode, Kirby spoke how he identified white space in the hummus category and what he learned during four years of operating his own production facility. He also urged entrepreneurs to be thoughtful about their retail relationships and deliberate about expenses, and discussed why he hires people that are highly self-sufficient. Show notes: 1:16: There's Gold In This Discussion About U.K. Brands and "No-gronis" -- The hosts convened for a wide-ranging chat about John and Mike's visit to London, where they attended the recently held Bread and Jam festival. Along with BevNET/NOSH brand specialist Melissa Traverse, they discussed the investment environment and sourcing challenges for U.K.-based food and beverage brands, and what it takes to go to market in the U.S. They also riffed on gold-plated Kit Kat bars, dessert hummus and John's impressive grasp of soccer lingo. Finally, they spoke about the latest edition of BevNET Magazine, news and incentives related to BevNET Live and NOSH Live and what the future might hold for non-alcoholic cocktails. 18:15: Interview: Chris Kirby, Founder/President, Ithaca Craft Hummus -- Kirby sat down with Taste Radio editor Ray Latif at BevNET HQ, where he spoke about his background as a trained chef, the formulation of Ithaca hummus and why it initially benefited the brand to stay narrow and focused on velocity instead of store count. He also explained why producing the hummus in-house was the "most difficult four years" of his life, and how the experience was critical to the brand's relationship with co-packer and equity partner LiDestri Foods. Later, he discussed Ithaca's marketing and communication strategy, how the brand strives to "make it easy" for fans to become ambassadors, and how carefully crafted success stories have been key to landing placement at new retailers. Finally, Kirby spoke about why profitability "has always been a really important piece" of his business strategy and why he advises entrepreneurs to be "very intentional about what you're spending and why." Brands in this episode: Ithaca Craft Hummus, GT's Kombucha, Delighted by Desserts, Tribe Hummus, Sabra, Joseph's Hummus, Cedar's, Kit Kat, Ugly Drinks, TaDah Foods, Kind Snacks, The Bitter Housewife, Bitters & Soda, Seedlip, White Claw, Everleaf Drinks, Three Spirit, Fix8 Kombucha

If you've ever sipped on a craft cocktail, chances are that the drink was influenced by one of a handful of bars at the forefront of modern mixology. That short list includes Death & Co., a venerated haunt in New York City's East Village that has become a mecca for cocktail enthusiasts. Known for its inventive libations and sleek ambiance, Death & Co.'s focus on delivering an elevated drinking experience has made it an archetype for premium bars and indirectly paved a path for the rise of high quality packaged cocktails. In an interview included in this episode, Death & Co. co-founder Alex Day spoke about the inception of the bar, which has since opened a second location in Denver and is nearing completion on an outpost in Los Angeles, and the company's thoughtful approach to innovation and branding. He also explained why articulating Death & Co.'s style is an "ongoing process," how consulting taught him the importance of creating systems, why patience is key to its recruitment process and why the company considers itself a content creator as much as a bar. Show notes: 2:41: Interview: Alex Day, Co-Founder, Death & Co. -- BevNET's John Craven and Mike Schneider met with Day at his home in Portland, Maine where he spoke about his foray into the cocktail scene, how he eventually became a co-founder of Death & Co. and why "cocktail socialism" drives the bar's innovation strategy. He also explained why "we have to consider the Instagram moment" and how the company works with influencers, why a collective interview is part of the hiring process, the Picasso quote that defines his approach to planning and why Death & Co.'s Denver and Los Angeles locations are not replicas of the New York City bar. Later, he discussed why "maintaining the brand's integrity is challenging," whether there is a bubble in the craft cocktail scene, why you should never "follow trends out of fatigue," and why some of the best bartenders he's trained have been baristas. Brands in this episode: Beefeater Gin

In this episode, we're joined by Ashleigh and Trey Lockerbie, the co-founders of organic kombucha brand Better Booch, who joined us for a conversation about the good, the bad and the ugly of a brand revamp. In March, the Los Angeles-based company unveiled a new look designed to broaden its appeal and position itself as a more premium, craft offering. It wasn't, however, an overnight process; the Lockerbies spent nearly two years developing the new brand identity. Despite many frustrating moments, the work helped shaped a brand strategy that now serves as the foundation for Better Booch's future. As part of our conversation, the Lockerbies spoke about the decision and timing of the revamp, how they gradually uncovered brand elements that were incorporated into the new packaging and how they communicated their vision to design partners. Show notes: 1:16: The Facts About NACS -- In Atlanta for the 2019 National Association of Convenience Stores (NACS) show, the episode's hosts, including BevNET's Martín Caballero and Brad Avery and NOSH's Beth Kaiserman, shared their takeaways from the annual event. The discussion included how plant-based meat flavors in snacks are creating a premium experience and price point for C-stores, mushroom jerky bleeding into the channel, Coke's eye-opening energy play, how beverage conglomerates are building upon brand equity and tapping into hot trends, and the emergence of multi-functional energy drinks. 18:15: Interview: Ashleigh & Trey Lockerbie, Co-Founders, Better Booch -- BevNET CMO Mike Schneider met with the Lockerbies in Los Angeles where they discussed their backgrounds as former traveling musicians and the role that a family member's health struggles played in the creation of the kombucha brand. They also explained why they were an industry pioneer of kombucha in cans, how they evaluated the original label design and why competitors motivated them to launch a revamp. Later, they spoke about why defining brand pillars of "create, cure, cultivate and educate" was critical to the redesign, how their branding partners helped extract key elements of the Lockerbies' vision for Better Booch, and whom they relied upon for honest feedback about the new look. Brands in this episode: Better Booch, Cheetos, RXBAR, Oreo, Twix, Kit Kat, Krispy Kreme, Vegan Rob's, Pirate's Booty, Crunchsters, Savory Wild, Shrooms, Coca-Cola Energy, Monster Energy, Honest Tea, Dunkin' Donuts, Odwalla, Smartwater, Red Bull, Pepsi, Gatorade, Mountain Dew, Starbucks, Pure Leaf, Califia Farms, La Colombe, Keurig, High Brew, Forto, Peet's, Bai, Ashoc Energy, Bang Energy, Outlaw Energy, GT's Kombucha, Koe Kombucha, Revive Kombucha

This week, we're joined by Greg Vetter, the co-founder of Tessemae's, which produces organic dressings and condiments made with simple and clean ingredients. Vetter and his two brothers launched the brand in 2009 and got off to a hot start; in its first week at Whole Foods, Tessemae's broke the retailer's record for sales in a single week. In the years that followed, Tessemae's continued its rapid rise and was pegged as one of the next great natural food companies. Things cooled off, however, and while it's still a well-respected brand with tens of millions in annual sales, Tessemae's has faced a number of challenges to its growth, including a reduced retail footprint and supplier lawsuits. In an interview included in this episode, Vetter spoke about Tessemae's impressive start and how a decade in development has come with huge wins and unexpected losses. He also explained why his "positively intense" approach to business is not for everyone, the undesirable association with "bro culture," why he has some regrets about revealing sales projections, and why he believes that "the key to this game is surrounding yourself with people that you really trust and have your best interests at heart." Show notes: 3:04: Interview: Greg Vetter, Co-Founder/CEO, Tessemae's -- Vetter met with Taste Radio editor Ray Latif in Baltimore, where he spoke about about his background, the brand's origins and the unorthodox way in which he won placement at Whole Foods. He also explained why a local rib restaurant will forever be supplied with free Tessemae's products, why the company launched a production facility, and why he blames VMG general partner Wayne Wu for labeling him as a "bro." Later, he discussed why "no one kind of likes the Vetter Brothers," the investment from Under Armor founder Kevin Plank's venture capital firm, the dangers of bad employees and advisors, and explained why "the universe turned down" two potential acquisitions of the company. Brands in this episode: Tessemae's, Kind Snacks, Starbucks

In this week's episode, we're joined by entrepreneur and investor Mark Rampolla for a discussion on the positive habits that have shaped his personal life and career. As part of our conversation, Rampolla, who is the founder of Zico coconut water and the co-founder of venture capital firm Powerplant Ventures, spoke about why he consistently reviews long and short-term goals and the importance of thoughtful communication with employees and colleagues. He also explained why daily huddles are key for highly effective organizations and why getting to bed early every night might be the most underrated habit of all. Show notes: 1:04: The New Rotary Club, What's Oat Is New and TRL -- BevNET/NOSH brand specialist Melissa Traverse joined the regular hosts for a freewheeling conversation about her previous work experience at Whole Foods, how to use LinkedIn effectively, and the range of oat-milk based products featured at Expo East 2019. They also discussed the upcoming Bread & Jam Festival in London and a Taste Radio-hosted meetup for food and beverage entrepreneurs during the event. Later, they spoke about BevNET's upcoming Winter 2019 conferences, which will include an inaugural Taste Radio Live session, and riffed on the potential for "ultra filtered" dairy milks. 18:58: Interview: Mark Rampolla, Founder, Zico; Co-Founder, Powerplant Ventures -- Rampolla spoke with Taste Radio editor Ray Latif at Expo East 2019 about how he considers long-term goals, why it's critical to write them down and look at them daily, and why he regrets not following the practice while building Zico. Later, he discussed why every first conversation with employees included the question "What are you trying to do with your life?" why he believes that "there's no substitute for in-person communication with people," and why he schedules daily huddles at 10:07 AM. Finally he revealed the worst advice he ever received and why getting enough sleep allows him to be at his absolute best. Brands in this episode: Mikoyo's, Oatly, Van Leeuwen, La Colombe, Rise Nitro Brewing Co., Bluestone Lane, Chameleon Cold-Brew, Califia Farms, Goodio, Raaka, Minor Figures, Fitjoy, A2 Milk, Organic Valley, Beckon Ice Cream, Zico Coconut Water, REBBL, Core Hydration, Runa, Juicero

There's an old saying that "leaders are born, not made." That might be true, but even for the most innate leaders, wouldn't it be helpful to learn from others' experiences? Alan Murray thought so. As a young executive working for carton manufacturer Tetra Pak, Alan wrote a guide for people in similar roles about how to lead effectively and position themselves for success. The guide has served as the foundation for Murray's career; after a tenure as CEO of Tetra Pak North America, he is now the CEO of Next Foods, the maker of probiotic-infused food and beverage brand GoodBelly. In an interview included in this episode, Murray spoke about his approach to leadership, including how to manage people that might be smarter than you, and the three critical things that he believes all successful CEOs should master. Later, he discussed GoodBelly's influence on the evolution of the probiotic food category, how the brand has refined its positioning and communication strategy and what elicited the company's partnership with General Mills. Show notes: 2:51: Interview: Alan Murray, CEO, GoodBelly -- Murray sat down with Taste Radio editor Ray Latif at Natural Products Expo East 2019 for a conversation that began with his passion for surfing and the unusual way that he landed a job at Unilever. He also discussed how ambition and leverage played into his first CEO role at Tetra Pak, how observing others helped frame his own leadership style, and why sitting at the reception desk and hanging out by the coffee machine is key to understanding company dynamics. Later, he explained why it's important to have a global perspective, what motivated him to join GoodBelly, how the company has honed in on its core consumers, why better food is critical to reducing health care costs, and why he believes that it's incumbent upon consumers to ask doctors about healthy eating habits. Brands in this episode: GoodBelly, Silk, Whitewave Foods