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This week's episode focuses on ways that the BevNET and NOSH teams are working with entrepreneurs to support their businesses during these uncertain times, and also includes an interview with Candice Crane, founder/CEO of botanical drink brand Petal Beverage, who spoke about how she is navigating a challenging environment for small food and beverage companies. Founded in 2017, Petal has won plaudits for its organic sparkling beverages which are formulated with a range of botanical essences, including rose water, lychee and elderberry, among others. The brand is distributed in 1,000 locations, including at Gelson's, Jimbo's, Albertsons and Cost Plus World Market. As part of our interview, Crane spoke about her foray into the beverage industry, identifying the brand's core consumer and how the company is leaning into its digital marketing strategy amid an evolving retail landscape. Show notes: 1:07: Let's "Hangout" For A Beer Or Coffee -- The episode's hosts spoke about how some brands are managing their businesses during the current and also encouraged entrepreneurs and brand executives to reach out to the BevNET and NOSH teams for a virtual meeting to discuss business strategies and planning or just to check in for a beer or coffee. They also offered suggestions on how to pitch news, ways to amplify trade communication (email us at strategy@bevnet.com), how to enjoy cocktails with your kids and a few notable snack and beverages brands that helped keep the team nourished over the past week. 15:34: Candice Crane, Founder/CEO, Petal Beverage -- Crane spoke with Taste Radio editor Ray Latif about her family's history of entrepreneurship, her inspiration for launching Petal and key takeaways from the brand's initial test in the Chicagoland market. She also discussed how the company incorporates influencer content into its digital marketing, how Petal is adjusting its 2020 retail strategy and why she believes that food and beverage companies have "an obligation to do well." Brands in this episode: Petal Beverage, Herb & Lou's, Unite Food, The Naked Baker, Simply 7, Whisps, Brewer's Crackers, Lyre's, Better Booch, Maple Mama, Shroom Shot

There's an inherent connection between the last name Musk and Tesla. And while Kimbal Musk, brother of Elon Musk, is a founding board member of the electric car company, his focus is firmly on the future of food. Musk is the co-founder and chairman of three companies -- The Kitchen Restaurant Group, Big Green and Square Roots -- each designed to support his overarching mission of "real food for everyone." The ambitious goal is anchored in urban farming, food literacy projects for children and a restaurant chain focused on accessible, healthy meals and snacks. In an interview included in this episode, Musk spoke about the roots of his mission and how each of his ventures is contributing to the advancement of the food system. Show notes: 1:07: Kimbal Musk, Co-Founder & Chairman, The Kitchen Restaurant Group/Big Green/Square Roots -- In a call with Taste Radio editor/producer Ray Latif, Musk discussed how a life-changing accident shaped his perspective on food culture, why he designed his restaurant chain Next Door American Eatery to be "everyman's joyful restaurant" and how the company incorporates trust and authenticity into its menu. He also spoke about the critical role of taste in convincing consumers to eat healthier food, educating children about "real food" through schoolyard "learning gardens," and how "Plant A Seed Day" is at the core of his overarching mission. Later, he explained the origins and focus of his urban farm company Square Roots, why he believes in a future where all people can access produce grown within a few miles of their homes and his involvement with electric car manufacturer Tesla and private rocket company SpaceX. Brands in this episode: Square Roots, Impossible Foods, Gotham Greens, Beyond Meat, Memphis Meats

When assessing the long-term potential for trendy product concepts, Mark Alexander, the CEO of fast-growing skyr brand Icelandic Provisions, uses a "warm" analogy. "Paper fire burns really bright, and then it's out before you know it," Alexander said in an interview included in this episode. "A wood fire is going to last and burn for a while. That's how we look at things: is this [trend] a paper fire or a wood fire?" Following a nearly 30-year career at the Campbell Soup Company, Alexander joined Icelandic Provisions in February 2019. A brand of traditional Icelandic skyr, Icelandic Provisions launched in 2016 and has tapped into growing demand for high-protein, low sugar cultured dairy. The company's products, known for rich flavor and velvety texture, are sold in over 10,000 locations nationwide, including Whole Foods, Wegmans and ShopRite. As part of our conversation, Alexander spoke about his transition from Campbell to Icelandic Provisions, lessons and takeaways from working at a CPG conglomerate that he's incorporated into his current role and how the skyr company navigates consumer demand for premium and affordable offerings. Show notes: 1:05: Elevators In Studios, Major Raises & Vegan Pork Rinds -- The episode's hosts opened the show with a chat about BevNET's Elevator Talk Livestream, which gave brand founders and CEOs and opportunity to be interviewed live via remote video and discuss new products and brand updates that they would have been featuring at Expo West 2020. They also spoke about recently completed funding rounds for sparkling water brand Spindrift and non-alcoholic beer company Athletic Brewing and munched on a new line of vegan pork rinds. 8:40: Mark Alexander, CEO, Icelandic Provisions -- In a call with Taste Radio editor Ray Latif, Alexander discussed his ambition to become the CEO of a company, the most rewarding and challenging aspects of working at a food conglomerate and what drew him to Icelandic Provisions. He also spoke about the steepest part of the learning curve in leading an entrepreneurial brand, why the industry is seeing greater numbers of big company CPG executives migrating to entrepreneurial brands, how hype affects emerging trends and how Icelandic Provisions responds to consumer backlash to added sugar. Brands in this episode: Icelandic Provisions, TeaRiot, Bobo's, Sol-ti, Ayoba-Yo, Greenbelt Craft Kombucha, The Good Bean, Spindrift, Athletic Brewing Co., Beanfield's, Snacklins, Clif Bar, Pepsi, Campbell's

Following a recent evolution in its branding, Dang Foods co-founder/CEO Vincent Kitirattragarn says his company is well-positioned to tap into what he believes is one of the most overlooked and influential demographics in the U.S.: Asian-Americans. Best known for its sweet and savory coconut chips, Dang Foods was launched in 2012 by Kitirattragarn and his brother Andrew . Since its debut, the company has expanded its product portfolio to include rice chips and a fast-growing line of keto-certified snack bars made with Asian-inspired flavors. The brand is represented in over 13,000 retail locations nationwide, including at Kroger, Target and Whole Foods, where its bars are the top-selling brand in its category, according to Dang. Earlier this year, the company repositioned itself as an "Asian-American snack brand," a move that Kitirattragarn said will enhance sales and help it attract new consumers from a community that he described as "perfect when designing a brand." "It's the highest income consumer, it's the consumer with the highest levels of education, most likely to be organic eaters, most likely to be vegetarians, and nobody's speaking to that consumer," Kitirattragarn said in an interview included in this episode. "This positioning is something that we can fully, authentically own." In our conversation, Kitirattragarn spoke further about the company's origins and how Dang communicates its brand story across product lines. He also explained why he keeps a tight grip on the company's innovation strategy and discussed its relationship with investment firm Sonoma Brands. Show notes: 2:00 Vincent Kitirattragarn, Co-Founder/CEO, Dang Foods -- Taste Radio editor Ray Latif spoke with Kitirattragarn about how college classmates spurred his foray into entrepreneurship, the history behind the name, the evolution in its branding and whether its current positioning could have existed when it first launched. He also discussed Dang's product mix and why entrepreneurs have to be "excited by [their] own innovation," why "category size is super important" in new product development, how investors were skeptical about his decision to launch a line of snack bars and how he proved them wrong. Later, he spoke about what Sonoma Brands and Krave Jerky founder Jon Sebastiani brings to the table as an investor, how his leadership style has changed over the years, building company culture through core values and his work with the JEDI Collaborative, a non-profit group that promotes diversity and equality within the CPG industry. Brands in this episode: Dang Foods, Krave Jerky, Smashmallow

In this episode, we're joined by William Siff, founder and CEO of Goldthread, an innovative brand of plant-based tonics formulated with herbs, spices and adaptogens. A clinical herbalist, ethnobotanist and licensed acupuncturist, Siff launched the company in 2016 as an extension of his apothecary and herb farm in Western Massachusetts. A pioneer in the emerging category of adaptogenic beverages, Goldthread's products are designed to "restore, refresh and invigorate our mind, body and soul." The brand is distributed at natural and conventional retailers nationwide, including Target which recently added Goldthread to 970 of its locations. In an interview included in this episode, Siff spoke about his background as a natural health practitioner and how his experience led to the creation of Goldthread. He also discussed why building the brand was akin to "inventing the category," effective methods for driving consumer education and brand awareness, defining metrics for success and how the company incorporates ingredient trends into its innovation strategy. Show notes: 0:50: Thoughts On An Expo-Less Week (At Least We Have Churro Ice Cream) -- The hosts reflected on the postponement of Natural Products Expo West 2020 and how exhibitors that planned to feature new products and brand updates at the annual event can share the news with BevNET and NOSH. They also chatted about how texting has become a useful tool for communicating with the editorial team, chomped on plant-based ice cream and reiterated that sharing snacks is always welcome. 10:25: William Siff, Founder/CEO, Goldthread -- Siff spoke with Taste Radio editor Ray Latif about his foray into the beverage industry and why he viewed packaged drinks as "a model that could scale our overall efforts" to "get as many herbs, spices and adaptogens into as many people's bodies as possible." He also discussed key benchmarks that the company has reached, why demos and its "Plant Venture" events have been essential to the brand's development and how he works with retailers to add more adaptogenic drinks to their shelves. Later, he explained why refreshment is a key selling point for Goldthread and why he believes that schizandra berry will emerge as the next "big" functional ingredient. Brands in this episode: Goldthread, Fuze, Nos, BodyArmor, Core, Adrenaline Shoc, Cali'flour Foods, Ripple Foods, Van Leeuwen, Halo Top, UnReal, From The Ground Up

Twelve years ago, Ben Van Leeuwen launched his small-batch ice cream brand in the midst of a recession. An economic downturn is perhaps not the ideal time to start a company, yet the circumstances helped establish one of the core elements of his business strategy: a thorough examination of every cost. "Dig into every single expense, and ask yourself: 'Is this really serving our customer?' Van Leeuwen said in an interview included in this episode. "That's the most important thing. If it's not serving the customer, then don't do it." That principle has been essential to running a lean and profitable company and key to its growth. Van Leeuwen Ice Cream has evolved into a sprawling brand with 22 ice cream shops in New York and California and a wholesale pint business with more than 1,500 accounts across the U.S. As part of our conversation, Van Leeuwen spoke about why he started an ice cream brand alongside his brother and future wife, how New York City's culture impacted its development and why the company didn't raise money for its first 11 years. He also shared his perspective on how Van Leeuwen has bucked the trend toward healthy eating, promoting brand pillars through packaging, the synergistic relationship between its stores and wholesale business and whether he's open to selling the company down the road. Show notes: 2:04: Ben Van Leeuwen, Co-Founder/CEO, Van Leeuwen Ice Cream -- Taste Radio editor Ray Latif met with Van Leeuwen in New York City where he spoke about how a summer job in his teens and traveling around the world led to and influenced the creation of Van Leeuwen Ice Cream, as well as the upside to working with his family and why he rejected advice to use inferior ingredients in his products. He also discussed the advantages and disadvantages of operating in New York City, why the company stopped co-manufacturing early on and built its own production facility, why 'running lean was just the default" and the reason that he and his co-founders decided to accept outside capital. Later, he explained why minimalism was the goal in its package design, the keys to the brand's popular vegan varieties and how he stays in shape despite being the CEO of an indulgent ice cream brand. Brands in this episode: Van Leeuwen Ice Cream, Michel Cluizel

This week, we're joined by Tommy Kelly and Salim Najjar, the co-founders of Sound Brands, a fast-growing company that markets carbonated, unsweetened iced teas and tea-infused sparkling waters made with herbal and botanical ingredients. Launched in 2015, Sound has been at the forefront of an emerging market for sparkling teas. Hailed by Bon Appetit magazine as "The New LaCroix," Sound products are primarily distributed in the Northeast and Mid-Atlantic and also available at several chain and independent retailers across the U.S. During our interview, Kelly and Najjar explained that while they've made several costly mistakes over the years, their perspective that "a failure is really a lesson if looked at properly" has been essential to the brand's development. "The first year, I'd probably classify it as a bunch of failures, from spending way too much money on an initial product, to spending way too much money on an outsourced sales team," Najjar said. "They all led us to where we are… and our current strategy, in terms of spending money and how lean we are." Also within our conversation, Kelly and Najjar discussed Sound's origins and overarching mission, how complementary skill sets have supported their working relationship, why getting up to speed on industry terminology is critical for early-stage entrepreneurs, how to avoid common pitfalls, and how corporate sales have been a boon for the brand. Show notes: 0:40: It's All About Popcorn & Pickle Salsa, #CBDMike and Eating Your Veggies at Expo -- The episode began with a chat about John Craven's West Coast extravaganza and Mike Schneider's kombucha-soaked visit to London, and discussion about recent office visits from fresh pickle and CBD snack entrepreneurs. The hosts also riffed on a few products sent to the office, including premium popcorn, non-alcoholic spirits and cocktail mixers, and shared tips for a successful experience at Expo West 2020. 18:00: Tommy Kelly and Salim Najjar, Co-Founders, Sound Brands -- Taste Radio editor Ray Latif met with Kelly and Najjar at Sound HQ in Manhattan for a conversation that began with their transition from nuclear power plant engineers to beverage entrepreneurs, how they identified white space for a sparkling tea brand, why they eschewed added natural flavors and sweeteners and a critical error in the company's original name. They also spoke about the trials and tribulations of their first year in business and why it was costly to hire retail consultants without having a clear go-to-market strategy, the importance of defining brand positioning, why it took years to make their first hire and how their retail strategy has evolved, particularly in Sound's home market of New York City. Later, Kelly and Najjar explained how corporate sales have become a key component of the company's overall business strategy and why they regret being hard on themselves during challenging times for the brand. Brands in this episode: Sound Brands, Nora's Snacks, Belgian Boys, From The Ground Up, Maya Kaimal, Jarr Kombucha, Pip & Nut, Grillo's Pickles, Farmhouse Culture, Big Swig, Alta Goods, [Popped] Artesian Popcorn, Lyre's, Seedlip, GT's Kombucha, WithCo Cocktails, Sir Kensington's

When Marco Canora opened the first Brodo location, a takeout window housed within his acclaimed New York City restaurant Hearth, he believed he was at the forefront of a new category of sippable bone broths. He was on to something: the launch of Brodo sparked broad interest in bone broth, positioned to consumers as a comforting drink and a convenient source of nutrition. In the following months, new bone broth cafes and packaged brands began appearing across the U.S. Yet while emerging categories often benefit from an expanding shelf set, Canora, an award-winning chef who's helmed some of New York's most admired eateries and been featured on several popular cooking shows including "Chopped" and "Top Chef," has some misgivings about product quality. There's a right way to make bone broth, he believes, one that involves patience, care and premium ingredients. It may cost more to produce at scale, but Brodo lives and dies by its high standards. "I've always been the 'slow and steady wins the race' kind of guy," Canora said in an interview included in this episode. "And as long as I'm enjoying the process, I think the most critical and the most important thing about the path is that we each pop out of bed every day and we're excited and proud about what we're making." That principle has guided Brodo's development since its launch in 2014. The company has expanded to six retail storefronts in New York City -- all profitable, according to Canora -- and distributes frozen bone broth in quarts and pints to independent and chain retailers, including Whole Foods, across metro New York. As part of our conversation, Canora and Brodo CEO Andrew Garner discussed the origins of the brand, how timing and location played into its early success and the company's foray into packaged products. They also spoke about Brodo's consumer education strategy and why Marco believes that the steepest part of the learning curve in the business of consumer packaged goods is also its most frustrating. Show notes: 2:04: Marco Canora, Founder & Andrew Garner, CEO, Brodo -- Canora and Garner sat down with Taste Radio editor Ray Latif for an expansive conversation that began with Canora's background as a chef, how his unhealthy lifestyle led him to bone broth and how Garner, a former health care and Coca-Cola executive, joined Brodo as its CEO. Canora also explained why he describes Brodo products as "beverages" and not "soup," how the company communicates its value proposition to consumers, determining the right format and package size for the brand and how he attempts to use his influence as to support the development of better-for-you food brands. Later, Canora and Garner discussed the role of Brodo's storefronts as a gateway to its packaged products, the challenge of merchandising in the frozen food aisle, why Canora laments traditional routes to market, the impact of growing interest in plant-based diets on Brodo's business model and the dream scenario for the company's future. Brands in this episode: Brodo, Rind Snacks, Health-Ade, Starbucks, Knorr, Shake Shack

The brand may be called Belgian Boys, but a self-described "Chief Belgian Girl" conceived its thoughtful business strategy. Anouck Gotlib is the CEO of Belgian Boys, which markets a range of authentic European breakfast foods and sweet snacks, including liege wafels, crepes, pancakes and stroopwafels. Launched in 2014, the brand is represented in a variety of retail channels and chains, including Target, CVS, Whole Foods and Costco. Gotlib joined Belgian Boys as its head of marketing in 2014 and played a central role in developing the brand's whimsical aesthetic and package design. Since becoming CEO in 2018, she has positioned Belgian Boys as one of familiar indulgence, expanding and curating the product line with delicious foods that are easily understood and appreciated by American consumers. In an interview included in this episode, Gotlib explained that while the brand's positioning has been key to its retail strategy, it's only part of the equation. "What's really important is that you really understand what's on [a retail buyer's] shelves," she said. "You need a strategy. You need to make sure that what you sell to the retailer makes sense for the retailer. Walk the aisles of the supermarket, walk by the register and find out who's there. What are they buying? Why are they buying it? This way you can relate to the buyer and together with the retailer set your brand up for success." Also within our conversation, Gotlib also spoke about the formation of Belgian Boys and how her background in fashion influenced the brand's identity and continues to play a role in her management style. She also discussed how Costco has become a key retailer for incubating new products, best practices for effective merchandising and how Belgian Boys landed a deal with JetBlue. Show notes: 0:40: The Expo Edge, Argentine Booch & The Baaaaaad Guy -- The episode opened with banter about a popular song by Billie Eilish, why coffee foam and kombucha are trending in Argentina, tips for an optimal Expo West experience (Attendees: Exhibiting new products? Got news to share? Tell BevNET and NOSH) and whether vegan might be fading as a marketing term. 18:00: Anouck Gotlib, CEO, Belgian Boys -- Gotlib met with Taste Radio editor Ray Latif at BevNET's office in New York City and kicked off their conversation with some background on Belgian Boys, including the origin of mascots "Skinny and Chubby'' and how a mustache has become a key element in branding and marketing initiatives. She also explained why Belgian Boys is designed to be "a household staple for indulgence, quality and taste," the evolution of its product assortment, testing new products via private label, and why the brand and Special K cereal are likely to be seen in the same shopping cart. Later, Gotlib discussed her initial meeting with a JetBlue buyer and the lengthy process of getting the brand's cookies on board, why she believes there's a big opportunity for breakfast foods and how Belgian Boys is expanding its presence in Walmart. Brands in this episode: Belgian Boys, The Lab Coffee Roasters, Starbucks, Piettelli Vineyards, Bendita Kombucha, Beyond Meat, BrightFox, RxBar, BluePrint, Perfect Bar, High Peaks, Tofurky, Moocho, Special K, Pretzel Crisps

Gotham Greens co-founder and CEO Viraj Puri recognizes that the company's proprietary farming technology is critical to its ability to operate a network of greenhouses with a combined 600,000 sq. ft of growing space. However, in an interview included in this episode, he explained that Gotham Greens' workforce holds the key to its mission of "transforming how and where fresh produce is grown." "Technology is an incredibly important asset, but our people are a larger asset," Puri said in an interview included in this episode. "Because you can buy very sophisticated technology, but you still need people to optimize it and run it well. As much as we're growing plants, we're also cultivating people. That's been a huge learning experience." Self-described as a "fresh food company farming with the future in mind," Gotham Greens helped usher in a new era in the business of indoor greenhouse agriculture. Launched in 2009, the company has built and operates eight ecologically sustainable greenhouse facilities in cities including New York, Chicago, Baltimore and Providence. Gotham Greens produces a range of hydroponically grown packaged leafy greens and herbs, including butterhead lettuce, arugula and Thai basil, along with branded pestos and dressings, and distributes to over 30 states. As part of our conversation, Viraj Puri spoke about the company's genesis, its ambitious mission and multifaceted business model, the evolution of the Gotham Greens brand, including its product and innovation strategy, best practices for working with local governments and leaders and what's next for the future of the company. Show notes: 2:26: Viraj Puri, Co-Founder/CEO, Gotham Greens -- Taste Radio editor Ray Latif met with Puri at Gotham Greens' rooftop greenhouse on top of the Whole Foods Market in Gowanus, Brooklyn, where he spoke about his background prior to co-founding the company, how basil helped inspire him to launch Gotham Greens and the process of crafting a business plan. He also discussed how he defines and communicates 'local' as a marketing term, why the company is focused on farming greens and why the produce is not USDA certified organic. Later, he explained why cold calling the offices of local governments has been effective in landing meetings with municipal leaders, discussed Gotham Greens' relationship with Whole Foods and other major retailers and the company's expansion plans. Brands in this episode: Gotham Greens