

Taste Radio
BevNET Inc.
The top podcast for anyone building a business in food or beverage, BevNET’s Taste Radio features interviews with the leaders and rising stars of our fast-evolving industry. The shows also include discussion on emerging trends, innovation and news of the week from our regular cadre of hosts from the BevNET and NOSH teams.
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Jan 29, 2021 • 1h 3min
Insider Ep. 110: Why Asking For Specific Advice Helped This Brand Secure $7.5 Million In Funding
Denise Woodard, the founder and CEO of Partake Foods, is not shy about asking for advice. In an interview featured in this episode, she reflects on how guidance from other entrepreneurs has been a key part of her success in building a fast-growing packaged food brand. You might be surprised, however, that the counsel she most values comes from unsuccessful founders. “I think oftentimes when you’re company’s on a rocketship to success, it’s hard to remember the stuff that went wrong,” Woodard said. “But when you’ve lost your last dollar and put all your blood, sweat and tears into a company that didn’t work for whatever reason, you have really good advice about what not to do and what you wished you would have done.” A former executive with The Coca-Cola Co.’s Venturing and Emerging Brands (VEB) unit, Woodard founded Partake in 2016 after her infant daughter was diagnosed with severe food allergies. Frustrated with the lack of allergen-friendly food brands, she launched Partake with a line of cookies that are free from the eight major allergens, followed by a move into baking mixes. The brand, which sells its cookies at Target, Whole Foods and Sprouts stores nationwide, made waves in June of 2020 when it announced a $1 million seed round that was partly funded by Jay-Z’s Marcy Venture Partners. Seven months later, Partake closed on a $4.8 million Series A round that included industry luminary John Foraker and music icon Rihanna. It took a lot of heavy lifting, sacrifice and hearing the word ‘no’ dozens of times to get Partake where it is today, and as part of our interview, Woodard spoke about how her experience working with entrepreneurs while at Coca-Cola impacted the planning for and development of Partake, as well as how a boom in allergen-friendly brands has affected the brand’s growth and why leaning into retailer programs that support Black and female-owned companies has been critical. She also discussed why Partake was self-funded at launch, how she went from raising $5,000-$10,000 at a time to multi-million dollar, celebrity-led funding rounds, how the tragedy and social unrest of 2020 impacted Partake and why she sings the praises of a leadership coach. Show notes: 0:36: Celebrate Green Juice! But Did You Forget About Everything Bagel Ice Cream? Join The Club. -- The hosts chatted about waves of greens and green juice, a new ice cream product with a unique flavor and what they are learning about social media app Clubhouse. They also discussed new packaged food and beverages to hit the office, including better-for-you noodles, a “big” candy bar brand and non-alcoholic craft beer. 23:22: Interview: Denise Woodard, Founder/CEO, Partake Foods -- Taste Radio editor Ray Latif spoke with Woodard about her prompt email replies, her background as an entrepreneur, her transition from a beverage executive to a founder of a food brand and how she’s saved at least $250,000 in retailer fees. She also discussed how she was able to differentiate Partake from a growing set of competitors in the allergen-free space, how she determined her capital needs for launching the brand, staying focused after hearing rejection from investors, why data was a key asset in the company’s Series A round and why she doesn’t separate personal and professional responses to issues of racism and inequality. Later she explained why entrepreneurs should ask for specific versus general advice about building a business and why she views her employees as her “boss.” Brands in this episode: Partake Foods, Suja, Evolution Fresh, Your Super, Organifi, Jeni’s, Coolhaus, Ben & Jerry’s, Foodstirs, Zesty Z, Ayoba Foods, Belgian Boys, Nona Lim, Om Som, Banza, Daytrip, BrewDog, Athletic Brewing Co., De La Calle, immi, Gigantic Bar, Ugly Drinks, Milky Way, Hershey’s, Honest Tea, Zico, Once Upon A Farm

Jan 19, 2021 • 39min
Ep. 237: How Celsius Rose From The Ashes To Become One Of The Hottest Brands In CPG
It might be surprising to learn that Celsius, a fitness-centric energy drink brand that generated over $100 million in sales in 2020 and is profitable, was in turmoil just a few years ago. Founded in 2004, Celsius was originally positioned as a brand of “negative calorie” and “fat burning” functional beverages. That focus, which was initially successful in driving consumer and retailer interest, eventually proved to be problematic and resulted in the company spending years in turnaround. CEO John Fieldly, who joined the company nine years ago and has been at the helm since 2017, was at the forefront of Celsius’s turnaround and is spearheading its current growth strategy which is supported by distribution at top retailers, including nationwide at Walmart. In an interview featured in this episode, Fieldly spoke about his role in the turnaround, including his belief that a strong understanding of finance was a significant factor in helping to fix Celsius’s problems, the importance of setting expectations with staff and investors, how to optimize placement at key retailers and why he has an open door policy when conducting business. Show notes: 0:37: Interview: John Fieldly, CEO, Celsius -- Fieldly spoke with Taste Radio editor Ray Latif about his initial experience as the company’s CEO and how his background in finance provided a foundation for identifying and resolving the company’s most critical problems. He also discussed why data analysis helped Celsius focus on key markets and retail channels, why he viewed the energy category as the biggest opportunity for growth and how he’s attempting to shed an industry stigma about the brand. Later, he spoke about his leadership style and why it’s important to address personnel issues immediately, as well as how he plans to maintain Celsius’s momentum through 2021 and beyond. Brands in this episode: Celsius, Bang Energy, Monster Energy

Jan 15, 2021 • 1h 8min
Insider Ep. 109: How Cleveland Kitchen Is Using Data And Innovation To Become A Household Name
This week we’re joined by Drew and Mac Anderson, brothers and co-founders of Cleveland Kitchen, a fast-growing brand of fresh, fermented foods. Founded in 2013, the company’s flagship line of sauerkraut has risen to become the top-selling premium product in the category in the U.S., according to the company, and is available at over 9,000 retail stores including those of Target, Wegmans, Whole Foods, Sprouts, Kroger and Publix. Amid growing consumer demand for probiotic-rich foods, the Andersons, along with their co-founder and brother-in-law Luke Visnic, are aiming to build Cleveland Kitchen into “a household name with a healthy halo,” including moving into other products such as its recently launched marinades and dressings. Within our conversation, the Andersons spoke about the roles that their mother and the city of Cleveland had in the brand’s inspiration, their experience leaning into new use occasions for sauerkraut and why it was key to growth, how data led to more impactful merchandising and bigger sales and how the brothers balance family and business. Show notes: 0:36: None Of Us Are Doing Dry January, But We Do Love These Products. And Probiotics. -- The episode’s hosts chatted about notable names and nicknames, riffed on a “bitchin’” brand and discussed the recent boom in new non-alcoholic spirits and ready-to-drink cocktails and a few products within the growing cohort. They also spoke about the revamped, yet still remarkable, GT’s Cocoyo and a few other food and beverage brands sampled over the past month. 18:34: Interview: Drew & Mac Anderson, Co-Founders, Cleveland Kitchen -- Taste Radio editor Ray Latif sat down with with the Andersons, who shared their enthusiasm for the NFL’s Cleveland Browns and the team’s recent playoff run, spoke about what they learned from working at farmers’ markets at a young age and how they incorporated fermentation into their college experiences. They also explained how they communicated Cleveland Kitchen’s sauerkraut as a functional, culinary food that is cross-cultural, and versatile, making the leap from natural to conventional retailers and why owning and operating a production facility is a significant asset and advantage over competitors. Later, they discussed considerations for new product development and how they settle disagreements and stay focused on the company’s mission. Brands in this episode: Cleveland Kitchen, Bitchin’ Sauce, Athletic Brewing, HOP WTR, Seedlip, Wilderton, Ugly Drinks, Budweiser, Schlitz, Golden Road, Guinness, Everleaf, Three Spirit, bonbuz, Spirity Cocktails, Kin Euphorics, Cedar’s, Cann, Proposition Cocktail, Sweet Crude, Sweet Reason, Local Roots Kombucha, GT’s Living Foods, Coconut Cult, Jetson Probiotics, Betera

Jan 5, 2021 • 38min
Ep. 236: The NFL’s G.O.A.T. Is Fueled By Mushrooms. And He’s Ready To Share.
In the vernacular of our times, someone who is considered to be the best at a skill, sport or profession is described as a “G.O.A.T.,” an acronym which stands for “Greatest Of All Time.” It’s an apt term for Jerry Rice, the NFL Hall of Fame wide receiver, a four-time Super Bowl champion with the San Francisco 49ers and holder of nearly every significant career receiving record in American professional football. Today, Rice is tackling a new challenge as the co-founder of G.O.A.T. Fuel, the aptly named energy drink brand which markets health-focused beverages made with green tea, natural caffeine and cordyceps mushrooms. It’s not Rice’s first involvement in the beverage industry: along with his work as a longtime ambassador for Muscle Milk, he previously launched an energy drink brand in the mid-2000’s called e10. As a result, he’s using his experience on and off the playing field to support the development of G.O.A.T. Fuel as the company’s executive chairman. In an interview included in this episode, Jerry and Jaqui Rice, his daughter and a co-founder and CEO of the company, spoke about the inspiration behind, planning and launch of G.O.A.T. Fuel, and how they’re leveraging Jerry’s fame in a way that’s authentic to the brand and its positioning. They also discussed the products’ unique formulation and how they evaluate partnerships, including a recent deal with gaming and sports betting company FanDuel. Show notes: 0:40: Interview: Jerry Rice & Jaqui Rice, Co-Founders, G.O.A.T. Fuel -- After giving his prediction for this year’s Super Bowl, Jerry Rice and his G.O.A.T. Fuel co-founder Jaqui Rice spoke to Taste Radio editor Ray Latif about their motivations for entering the energy drink category despite its challenges and long odds. They also discussed why they viewed the company as led by “a family of G.O.A.T.s,” how they plan to educate consumers about the functional benefits of cordyceps mushrooms, why the target consumer is more about personality than demographics and how they are building out an ambassador team for the brand. Later, they explained why core values have to align in any partnership and shared Jerry’s advice for any individual that wants to become a G.O.A.T. Brands in this episode: G.O.A.T. Fuel, Muscle Milk, Rowdy Energy

Dec 31, 2020 • 49min
Insider Ep. 108: There’s Opportunity In Adversity. Just Ask These Founders.
This special edition of Taste Radio Insider highlights actionable insights and advice from interviews with four founders, creators and investors who joined us on the show during the second half of 2020. Our guests include Greg Fleishman, Co-Founder/CEO, Foodstirs; Jing Gao, Founder & CEO, Fly By Jing; Carlton Fowler, Managing Partner, Goat Rodeo Capital; and Breezy Griffith, Co-Founder & CEO, SkinnyDipped. Show notes: 0:35: Mike Missed His Shot. Plus, Soda Strategies, Samples And Salutes. -- The episode opens with a bit of banter about a recent win streak and the return of BevNET/NOSH’s Elevator Talk series in 2021. The hosts also discussed two independent soda brands and how each is navigating an evolving market for the category and spotlighted a few notable products sampled over the past week. 16:38: Interview: Greg Fleishman, Co-Founder/CEO, Foodstirs -- We kicked off the interview portion of the show with Greg Fleishman, co-founder and CEO of clean label baking mix and snack company Foodstirs. In the following clip, pulled from Ep. 93 of Taste Radio Insider, Fleishman explained why successful entrepreneurs are most often purpose-driven, the importance of collaborating with retail buyers when formulating an innovation strategy and why tapping your network for advice and feedback is more important than ever. 25:44: Interview: Jing Gao, Founder & CEO, Fly By Jing -- Next up is Jing Gao, founder & CEO of Sichuan-inspired sauce and seasoning brand Fly By Jing. Within our interview from Ep. 103, Gao spoke to BevNET CMO Mike Schneider about the company’s success in landing widespread media coverage and how she addressed production and logistical challenges that arose from crushing demand. 33:11: Interview: Carlton Fowler, Managing Partner, Goat Rodeo Capital -- We continued with Carlton Fowler, managing partner of venture capital firm Goat Rodeo Capital. In this clip from Ep. 101, Carlton explained how he identifies new products that have a runway for success, the three tenets that shape Goat Rodeo’s funding decisions and why he is always on the hunt for category-creators. 41:25: Interview: Breezy Griffith, Co-Founder & CEO, SkinnyDipped -- Wrapping up the episode is Breezy Griffith, co-founder and CEO of fast-growing coated nut brand SkinnyDipped. In an interview featured in Ep. 96, Breezy shared a remarkable story about how Skinny Dipped made its way into the offices of two top tech companies and how she built a lasting partnership with a key buyer at Target. Brands in this episode: Zevia, Jones Soda, Coca-Cola, Pepsi, Genius, Amazi Foods, Tru, Nerd Focus, Foodstirs, Fly By Jing, Drnxmyth, Skinny Dipped

Dec 23, 2020 • 54min
Ep. 235: ‘Don’t Quit’ And The Rules That Define Jake Steinfeld’s Decades Of Success
An icon of the personal fitness industry and founder of lifestyle platform brand Body By Jake, Jake Steinfeld is also an infomercial legend whose TV appearances have generated hundreds of millions of dollars in sales of exercise equipment and workout videos. Earlier this year, he extended his reach in consumer products with the launch of Don’t Quit, a line of meal replacement drinks developed in partnership with Keurig Dr Pepper (KDP) and brand incubator L.A. Libations. Despite his decades of experience in business, however, the Brooklyn native acknowledges that his foray into the beverage industry is a challenge unlike any he’s tackled before. In an expansive interview featured in this episode, Steinfeld opened up about his background as an innovator and entrepreneur, how he identifies synergies and alignment with consumer brands and the keys to cultivating a winning personality. He also shared the most important lessons he’s learned about business and how the partnership with KDP and L.A. Libations evolved from concept into a market-ready brand. Show notes: 0:37: Interview: Jake Steinfeld, Founder, Body By Jake/Don’t Quit -- Steinfeld spoke with Taste Radio editor Ray Latif and kicked off the conversation with a discussion about his memorable cameo in the movie “Coming To America” and why he’s not in the upcoming sequel, why he’s maintained a very early morning routine for decades and how and why he got serious about fitness. He also recounted his breakthrough moment in becoming a trainer to Hollywood stars, how he built the Body By Jake brand and the key to making your own luck. Later, he explained his initial interest in the beverage industry, how a meeting with L.A. Libations co-founder Danny Stepper sparked the idea for protein-centric drink, his involvement in the formulation and packaging of Don’t Quit and what’s next for the brand. Brands in this episode: Don’t Quit

Dec 18, 2020 • 47min
Insider Ep. 107: Why Successful Innovation Begins With The Consumer
In this episode, we’re joined by Francesco Amodeo, the co-founder and president of Don Ciccio & Figli, an acclaimed distiller of handcrafted Italian herbal liqueurs and ready-to-drink cocktails based in Washington, D.C. Founded in 2012, Don Ciccio & Figli produces beverages in the tradition of Amodeo’s family whose roots in the spirits business began in the 1800’s along Italy’s Amalfi coast. Amodeo’s embrace of his heritage has given way to the development of a highly awarded portfolio of amari, apertivi and cordials and comes amid Americans’ growing interest and demand for Italian liqueurs and bitter drinks. As part of our conversation, Amodeo spoke about following in the footsteps of his family, incorporating a modern touch into old-world production methods, the company’s thoughtful innovation strategy and how it validates new products. He also spoke about the impact of trends on business planning and strategy and how the company has responded to the Covid-19 pandemic via an expansion of its portfolio. Show notes: 1:02: Congratulations Are In Order; Why “Lyte” Drinks Are Having A Moment; J.B. Loves The Sauce -- The episode opens with a conversation about the winners of BevNET and NOSH’s Best of 2020 Awards, and the reason for a certain ice cream brand’s recognition. The hosts also discussed ways to enhance your brain power and business acumen, the emergence of Pedialyte-type drinks for adults and why the crew is jazzed about ginger shots, immunity juices and plant-based dips. 19:47: Interview: Francesco Amodeo, Co-Founder & President, Don Ciccio & Figli -- BevNET founder and CEO John Craven sat down with Amodeo, who spoke about his inspiration for launching the distillery, manipulating a key ingredient to create novel products and why he describes the product portfolio as “different colors for bartenders to paint their canvas.” He also discussed how the company conducts consumer and market research prior to launching a new product, the growth potential for Italian-centric liqueurs and the process of developing Don Ciccio & Figli’s ready-to-drink portfolio, which has blossomed amid the pandemic. Brands in this episode: Don Ciccio & Figli, Oatly, Ben & Jerry’s, Chobani, Revitalyte, Pedialyte, Gatorade, Hoist, Liquid I.V., Hydrant, Cure Hydration, Sol-ti, GNGR, Legacy Juice Works, Uncle Matt’s, Honey Mama’s, Bonbuz, Bitchin’ Sauce, Bob’s Red Mill, Earth Balance, Assumption Abbey, 12 Tides, Ayoba, Nutella

Dec 8, 2020 • 44min
Ep. 234: ‘Once’ Co-Founders Garner & Foraker Open Up About The Importance Of Mission, Middle America & BLM
Few packaged food brands have an A-list celebrity and one of the industry’s most respected leaders as part of their founding team. That is the case, however, with Once Upon A Farm, a mission-drive company that markets organic, nutrient-rich foods, including cold-pressed fruit and veggie blends, smoothies and dairy-free yogurts. Actor and spokesperson Jennifer Garner and John Foraker, who led Annie’s for nearly 20 years through its sale to General Mills, joined Once Upon A Farm as co-founders in 2017 and have since been on a mission to increase awareness and accessibility of the products to kids and parents across the U.S. Despite their experience and resources, Garner and Foraker will admit that the past three years have come with some bumps in the road. In particular, they’ll note that they might have been overambitious and expanded the brand’s retail footprint too quickly. Nevertheless, they view missteps as “key learnings” and a chance to improve upon their business strategy while maintaining a focus on Once Upon A Farm’s core mission and values. In the following interview, Garner and Foraker spoke about how they got involved with the company, identifying roles and responsibilities that would make best use of their time and skill sets and their approach to disrupting a legacy category. They also discussed the importance of making the brand available beyond the coasts, innovating and validating new product concepts and why they believe that “everything starts with the consumer.” Lastly, they spoke about Once Upon A Farm’s evolving relationship with the non-profit organization Save The Children and the company’s response to the Black Lives Matter movement. Show notes: 0:38: Interview: Jennifer Garner and John Foraker, Co-Founders, Once Upon A Farm -- Taste Radio editor Ray Latif and NOSH editor Carol Ortenberg spoke with Garner and Foraker about their motivations to join Once Upon A Farm and why Garner compares her success in the film industry to that of consumer products. They also discussed the impact of “talking the talk,” the evolution of the company’s strategy for winning over retail buyers, merchandising and communicating the brand attributes to consumers has evolved in recent years and why they introduced a line of WIC-certified products. Later, they explained the process for new product development, the introduction of a new sweet potato pie blend and its connection to Save The Children, the importance of staying on mission while being flexible with business strategy and how the company is supporting BIPOC-owned brands through its Entrepreneur Ally initiative. Brands in this episode: Once Upon A Farm, Annie’s, Partake Foods, A Dozen Cousins, Pipsnacks

Dec 4, 2020 • 1h 17min
Insider Ep. 106: The ‘Future’ Of Millennial & Gen Z Brands
This week, we’re joined by Justin Fenchel, Aimy Steadman and Brad Schultz, co-founders of Future/Proof, a company focused on developing innovative adult beverage brands for the next generation of consumers. The trio launched Future/Proof’s flagship brand BeatBox Beverages, which markets wine-based cocktails that the company promotes as “party punch,” in 2011. The brand debuted in a 5L bag-in-box package that resembled a boom box (aka a portable stereo system) and was aimed at millennial consumers seeking alternatives to boxed wine and malt beverages. With its unabashed embrace of party culture, BeatBox, which is available in flavors such as Blue Razzberry and Tropical Punch, found a receptive audience among college students and at music festivals, which in turn helped the brand land a national distribution partner and a major retailer early into its development. In 2014, BeatBox hit the jackpot on reality TV show Shark Tank, picking up a $1 million investment from Mark Cuban, whose funding supported new retail and distribution growth. Fenchel, Steadmen and Schultz have since built a thriving business, supported by the launch of a 500mL product which has become the fastest growing single-serve wine product in the U.S., according to data from Nielsen. Of course, it wasn’t all wins for BeatBox and the co-founders encountered more than a few stumbles and challenges over the past decade. We unpacked the whole story in an interview included in this episode, which explores the co-founders inspiration for the brand and why naiveté, scrappiness and business school connections were critical to its early development. They also explained why over-preparing was key to winning over Mark Cuban, how the convergence of lifestyle and liquid play into the brand’s trade and consumer marketing strategies, why the company is branching into hard seltzer and canned wine, and the reason behind its bullish stance on crowdfunding. Show notes: 0:42: Strong Vibes For Taste Radio Live; Common Threads In Funding Wins; Oh, And Brad Wants To Fight Bob Dylan -- The hosts kick off the episode with a discussion about Zoom attire, why Brad is so jacked up that he’s ready to box Bob Dylan and a live edition of Taste Radio featuring actor, fitness icon and entrepreneur Jake Steinfeld. They also spoke about the packed agenda for BevNET Live Winter 2020, which will include Speed Dating sessions with top design firms and national retailers, and the links between recently announced investment rounds in the beverage industry. Finally, a recap of some of the notable products sent to the team over the past month, including single-serve bagged coffee, turmeric-infused lemonades, zero-proof cocktails and oat-based snacks. 23:54: Interview: Justin Fenchel, Aimy Steadman, Brad Schultz, Co-Founders, Future/Proof -- Fenchel, Steadman and Schultz sat down with Taste Radio editor Ray Latif for a wide-ranging interview that began with the origins of BeatBox Beverages and how the concept was born and incubated at the University of Texas, how the brand was designed to address the convergence of millennials, boxed wine and music festivals, crowd-sourcing their label design and the remarkable story of how the company landed its first major distribution partner. The co-founders also spoke about learning on the fly about the alcoholic beverage industry, communicating the brand’s key attributes to retailers and consumers, how they landed a spot on “Shark Tank” and picked a $1 million dollar investment from the show. Later, they discussed learnings about BeatBox’s primary package and why it was critical to add a single-serve offering, transitioning distribution to beer wholesalers, how they raised over $800K in a recent crowdfunding campaign and what they’re looking for in a strategic partner. Brands in this episode: BeatBox Beverages, La Colombe, Heaven’s Door Whiskey, ZENWTR Huzzah, Olipop, Culture Pop, Clearly Kombucha, Hint Water, Vita Coco, Forto, Vitaminwater, Cheribundi, Kate Farms, Unity Wellness, High Side Coffee, Solo Coffee, Steeped Coffee, Om Mushrooms, Four Sigmatic, Golden Tiger, Minor Figures, Betera, Happy Snaps, Silverback Beverage Co., Brizzy Seltzer, Corkless

Nov 24, 2020 • 57min
Ep. 233: Why This Acclaimed Vintner & Physician Urges Entrepreneurs To ‘Really Listen To People Who Disagree With You’
Laura Catena may have one of the most unique resumes that you’d ever come across. Regarded as the face of Argentine wine, Catena presides at the helm of her family’s lauded winery Bodega Catena Zapata, which laid the foundations for the country’s wine to be recognized at the level of its European counterparts. She is also the founder of the Catena Institute of Wine, which focuses on science-driven ways to support and showcase Argentina’s winemaking regions. And, until recently, Catena had worked as an emergency room physician in San Francisco, a job she held concurrently with her wine-related roles. On the surface, one might think there are few similarities between the responsibilities of a doctor and vintner. Yet, as part of the conversation featured in this episode, Catena explained that her professions intersect in ways that make her better in both roles and allow her to provide more effective care to her patients and craft exceptional wine. We further explored this dynamic in our interview and also delved into Catena Zapata’s history and scientific approach to winemaking. Catena also explained why she feels a heavy responsibility of carrying the whole country of Argentina on her shoulders, why she believes that it is critical to “really listen to people who disagree with you” and discussed her passion for achieving sustainability through innovation. Show notes: 0:44: Interview: Laura Catena, Managing Director, Bodega Catena Zapata -- Taste Radio editor Ray Latif sat down with Catena for an expansive interview in which she discussed how she is supporting workers at her family’s winery in Argentina via telemedicine during the Covid crisis, the origins of Bodega Catena Zapata and why her father was inspired by American winemakers and discussed how malbec has been the key to Argentina’s ascendance in the global wine industry. She also spoke about why she was initially hesitant to join the family business and chose to study and practice medicine instead, how wine transformed her home province of Mendoza into a thriving region and how Catena Zapata’s rise to international recognition was supported by its focus on science and research about Argentina’s climate and soil. Later, she explained how the winery succeeded by winning “hearts and minds,” and why it’s so important to “understand how nature works so that we can preserve it.” Brands in this episode: Bodega Catena Zapata