
The Design Of Business | The Business of Design
The Design of Business | The Business of Design explores how design shapes, and is shaped by, the world around us. Hosted by Ellen McGirt, the podcast features conversations with visionary leaders from a wide range of industries, from architecture and technology to journalism and retail. Together, they examine creative practices, challenge conventional thinking, and explore how design drives business, innovation, and social change.In Season 12 of DB|BD, host Ellen McGirt explores Designing for the Unknown—how visionary designers, architects, and thinkers navigate uncertainty, from climate adaptation to technological disruption. This season, we’re looking at the bold ideas reshaping our cities, industries, and ways of living in an unpredictable world.
Latest episodes

May 7, 2019 • 32min
S6E11: Valerie Casey
Valerie Casey is head of design at Walmart.

Apr 30, 2019 • 29min
S6E10: Bon Ku
Dr. Bon Ku is assistant dean for health and design at Thomas Jefferson University in Philadelphia.

Apr 23, 2019 • 31min
S6E9: Isolde Brielmaier
Isolde Brielmaier is the executive director of arts culture and community at Westfield World Trade Center.

Apr 16, 2019 • 31min
S6E8: Mauro Porcini
Mauro Porcini is chief design officer at PepsiCo

Apr 9, 2019 • 32min
S6E7: Valla Vakili
Valla Vakili is head of Citi Ventures Studio, an incubator for financial services.

Apr 3, 2019 • 32min
S6E6: Archie Lee Coates IV
Archie Lee Coates IV is a founder of multidisciplinary creative studio Playlab, Inc., and executive director of Friends of +POOL.

Mar 26, 2019 • 32min
S6E5: Kerby Jean-Raymond
Kerby Jean Raymond is the founder and CEO of the fashion label Pyer Moss.

Mar 19, 2019 • 26min
S6E4: Reneé Seward & Chester Jenkins
Reneé Seward teaches communication design at the University of Cincinnati and is the founder of See Word Reading. Chester Jenkins is a partner in Constellation, which creates new typefaces, and Village, a coop that publishes them.

Mar 12, 2019 • 29min
S6E3: Cindy Chastain
Cindy Chastain is senior vice president of customer experience and design at Mastercard.

Mar 5, 2019 • 30min
S6E2: Billie Tsien
Billie Tsien is the co-founder of Tod Williams Billie Tsien architects, which works on buildings for museums, universities, and the Obama Presidential Center.