
The Design Of Business | The Business of Design
The Design of Business | The Business of Design explores how design shapes, and is shaped by, the world around us. Hosted by Ellen McGirt, the podcast features conversations with visionary leaders from a wide range of industries, from architecture and technology to journalism and retail. Together, they examine creative practices, challenge conventional thinking, and explore how design drives business, innovation, and social change.In Season 12 of DB|BD, host Ellen McGirt explores Designing for the Unknown—how visionary designers, architects, and thinkers navigate uncertainty, from climate adaptation to technological disruption. This season, we’re looking at the bold ideas reshaping our cities, industries, and ways of living in an unpredictable world.
Latest episodes

Jan 3, 2017 • 27min
S1E11: Steve Duenes
Steve Duenes is an Assistant Editor at The New York Times who oversees a team of visual journalists.

Dec 20, 2016 • 28min
S1E10: Danny Meyer and Paula Scher
Danny Meyer is the founder of Shake Shack. Paula Scher designed its graphic identity.

Dec 13, 2016 • 18min
S1E9: Jay Parkinson
Dr. Jay Parkinson is the founder of Sherpaa, an online medical practice.

Dec 6, 2016 • 28min
S1E8: Leslie Koch
Leslie Koch was the president and CEO of the Trust for Governors Island.

Nov 29, 2016 • 24min
S1E7: Susan Sellers + Cynthia Round
Susan Sellers was creative director of the Metropolitan Museum of Art. Cynthia Round was its senior vice president of marketing and external relations.

Nov 22, 2016 • 25min
S1E6: Douglas Powell
Douglas Powell is a Distinguished Designer at IBM. He directs a global effort to bring human-centered design to IBM.

Nov 15, 2016 • 29min
S1E5: Bruce Cohen
Bruce Cohen is an Oscar-winning film producer and president of the board of directors of the American Foundation for Equal Rights

Nov 8, 2016 • 25min
S1E4: Barry Nalebuff
Barry Nalebuff teaches at the Yale School of Management. His specialty is game theory and its application to business strategy.

Nov 1, 2016 • 22min
S1E3: Deborah Berke
Deborah Berke is the founding partner of Deborah Berke Partners, the architect of the 21c Museum Hotels, and the Dean of the Yale School of Architecture.

Oct 25, 2016 • 23min
S1E2: Molly Barton and Julian Yap
Molly Barton and Julian Yap are cofounders of Serial Box Publishing, which develops original episodic fiction.