
The Design Of Business | The Business of Design
The Design of Business | The Business of Design explores how design shapes, and is shaped by, the world around us. Hosted by Ellen McGirt, the podcast features conversations with visionary leaders from a wide range of industries, from architecture and technology to journalism and retail. Together, they examine creative practices, challenge conventional thinking, and explore how design drives business, innovation, and social change.In Season 12 of DB|BD, host Ellen McGirt explores Designing for the Unknown—how visionary designers, architects, and thinkers navigate uncertainty, from climate adaptation to technological disruption. This season, we’re looking at the bold ideas reshaping our cities, industries, and ways of living in an unpredictable world.
Latest episodes

Oct 16, 2018 • 29min
S5E3: Ellen Lupton
Ellen Lupton is the curator of contemporary design at Cooper Hewitt, the Smithsonian Design Museum.

Oct 9, 2018 • 37min
S5E2: Jon Iwata
Jon Iwata is executive in residence at the Yale School of Management and a senior advisor to IBM.

Oct 2, 2018 • 25min
S5E1: Lisa Smith
Lisa Smith is vice president of brand design at Chobani.

May 8, 2018 • 31min
S4E12: Jessica Dimmock
Jessica Dimmock is a photographer and filmmaker. Her latest project is the Netflix documentary series Flint Town.

May 1, 2018 • 24min
S4E11: Andrew Essex
Andrew Essex is the author of “The End of Advertising: Why It Had to Die, and the Creative Resurrection to Come.”

Apr 24, 2018 • 27min
S4E10: Abbott Miller
Abbott Miller is a partner in the design firm Pentagram.

Apr 17, 2018 • 26min
S4E9: Karin Fong
Karin Fong is a founding member of Imaginary Forces, a creative company specializing in visual storytelling and brand strategy.

Apr 10, 2018 • 26min
S4E8: Somi Kim
Somi Kim is senior director of healthcare solutions at Johnson & Johnson Design.

Apr 3, 2018 • 22min
S4E7: Lisa Strausfeld
Lisa Strausfeld is an information architect and data visualisation pioneer. Her studio is InformationArt.

Mar 27, 2018 • 31min
S4E6: Margaret Gould Stewart
Margaret Gould Stewart is vice president of product design at Facebook.