

Econ Dev Show Podcast - Economic Development
Dane Carlson
Dane Carlson explores the strategies, ideas, and insights that are driving economic development forward into the future. You'll hear new insights from passionate ED's about their successes and struggles, and you'll learn from attraction and retention experts about how to apply actionable strategies inside your EDO. We'll help take your organization, your community, and your career to the next level.
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Oct 13, 2025 • 29min
194: Tackling Systemic Vacancy and Building Equity with Kat Guillaume-Delemar
In this episode of the Econ Dev Show, Dane Carlson talks with Kat Guillaume-Delemar, President and CEO of the Center for Community Progress, the nation’s only nonprofit dedicated to fixing the systems that lead to widespread vacant, abandoned, and deteriorated properties. Kat shares how systemic vacancy harms communities — from lowering property values and public health to blocking economic opportunity — and explains how policy reform, land banking, and innovative programs can restore vitality and equity to disinvested neighborhoods. Drawing from her deeply personal journey from poverty and trauma to leadership and advocacy, Kat offers inspiring insights and actionable strategies for economic developers seeking to build stronger, more human-centered communities.
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10 Actionable Takeaways for Economic Developers
Shift the language: Avoid stigmatizing terms like "blight" and instead focus on systemic vacancy and its root causes.
Educate first: Increase awareness among policymakers, residents, and stakeholders about how vacancy impacts communities and economies.
Push for policy reform: Support legislation like the Neighborhood Homes Investment Act to close appraisal gaps and incentivize redevelopment.
Leverage land banks: Use land banks as strategic tools to acquire, manage, and repurpose vacant properties based on community priorities.
Think beyond economics: Balance the pursuit of economic growth with improving quality of life and social well-being.
Humanize your approach: Design strategies that prioritize people and communities over tax rolls and property values alone.
Collaborate widely: Work with residents, local leaders, and policymakers to co-create solutions tailored to community needs.
Address inequities: Recognize and combat systemic issues like redlining and inequitable appraisal practices that perpetuate vacancy.
Champion creative placemaking: Transform vacant lots into community assets -- from affordable housing to green spaces -- that restore neighborhood vitality.
Be strategically defiant: Don't shy away from challenging unjust systems; bold advocacy can lead to meaningful change.
Special Guest: Kathleen Guillaume-Delemar.Sponsored By:Sitehunt: Sitehunt is an AI-enhanced platform that helps economic developers build a comprehensive property database, enabling informed decisions and efficient RFI responses to accelerate site selection and project success.Links:Kat J. Guillaume- Delemar | LinkedInCenter for Community ProgressCenter for Community Progress: Overview | LinkedInCenter for Community Progress - YouTubeCenter for Community Progress | InstagramCenter for Community Progress | Facebook

Oct 6, 2025 • 28min
193: How Mid-Sized Markets Win: The Topeka Story with Molly Howey
In this episode of the Econ Dev Show, Dane Carlson sits down with Molly Howey, CEO of the Greater Topeka Partnership, to discuss how Topeka is redefining what is possible for mid-sized U.S. cities.
Molly shares how uniting economic development, downtown revitalization, tourism, and the chamber under one strategic umbrella helped the city align its vision and accelerate growth. From transforming a once-quiet airfield into a future industrial hub, to building momentum in the Animal Health Corridor and nurturing homegrown startups, Molly reveals the creative thinking and community grit driving Topeka forward.
Her story offers powerful lessons for any economic developer aiming to build sustainable, people-centered progress in their community.
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Ten Actionable Takeaways for Economic Developers
Build coalitions that outlast personalities. Lasting economic momentum comes from strong systems, not single champions. Create structures that unite business, government, and community voices under shared priorities that continue beyond individual leaders.
Treat your community as your product. Successful economic developers are storytellers and brand builders. Invest in placemaking, amenities, and perception as deliberately as you do in incentive packages and infrastructure.
Leverage what already works. Identify your city's natural strengths--industry clusters, geographic advantages, or workforce skills--and double down on them. Sustainable growth often comes from amplifying existing assets, not chasing trends.
Make collaboration your default setting. Align chambers, tourism groups, and EDOs so they speak with one voice. Shared data, messaging, and strategy save resources and multiply your impact.
Blend local grit with global reach. Topeka's partnership with Plug and Play shows how even smaller markets can attract international innovation by thinking globally while staying true to local identity.
Focus on people as much as projects. Workforce, childcare, housing, and livability are no longer "supporting factors" but central pillars of competitiveness. Put people at the center of every initiative.
Tell your story relentlessly. Economic development is half execution and half narrative. Share wins, celebrate progress, and communicate constantly to reshape how residents and outsiders view your community.
Simplify your strategy to amplify impact. Broad plans can dilute focus. Concentrate on a few bold goals that your team and partners can rally around, and measure success through consistent, visible progress.
Encourage entrepreneurship as a civic value. Support for small businesses, startups, and innovation hubs builds resilience and broadens economic opportunity across every layer of the local economy.
Keep learning, listening, and adapting. The best economic developers are curious. Study other regions, borrow ideas shamelessly, invite new perspectives, and stay flexible as industries and demographics evolve.
Special Guest: Molly Howey.Sponsored By:Sitehunt: Sitehunt is an AI-enhanced platform that helps economic developers build a comprehensive property database, enabling informed decisions and efficient RFI responses to accelerate site selection and project success.Links:Molly Howey, CEcD | LinkedInGreater Topeka Partnership: Overview | LinkedInGreater Topeka Partnership | Instagram

Sep 29, 2025 • 28min
192: How North Carolina Recruits on the World Stage with Anders Victor
In this episode of the Econ Dev Show, Dane Carlson sits down with Anders Victor, Director of International Business Development for the Economic Development Partnership of North Carolina, to explore how the state positions itself as a global powerhouse for foreign direct investment. Anders shares how North Carolina leverages its international offices, partnerships, and workforce strengths to attract companies like Toyota, Siemens, and Roche, while also tackling challenges around product availability, infrastructure, and talent pipelines. From lessons learned in global competition to the importance of mentorship and cultural adaptability, Anders offers practical and inspiring advice for economic developers everywhere
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Ten Actionable Takeaways for Economic Developers
Build international presence -- Overseas offices provide credibility, relationships, and cultural expertise.
Don't assume awareness -- Many companies don't know your state; make introductions early.
Highlight livability -- Migration, lifestyle, and culture are key decision factors alongside tax and cost advantages.
Invest in product readiness -- Sites, utilities, and workforce pipelines must be shovel-ready to compete globally.
Leverage co-op marketing -- Communities can pool resources to reach new markets and trade shows.
Learn from losses -- Map supply chains and know how your region fits into global networks.
Embrace cultural differences -- Business norms vary widely; flexibility builds trust.
Prioritize mentorship -- Developing young professionals requires exposure and guidance from experienced leaders.
Communicate in native languages -- Speaking a client's language strengthens partnerships and reduces friction.
Stay resilient and adaptable -- Every project looks different; success comes from meeting companies where they are.
Special Guest: Anders Victor.Sponsored By:Sitehunt: Sitehunt is an AI-enhanced platform that helps economic developers build a comprehensive property database, enabling informed decisions and efficient RFI responses to accelerate site selection and project success.Links:Anders Victor, CEcD | LinkedInEconomic Development Partnership of North Carolina | EDPNC

Sep 24, 2025 • 24min
The Power of Showing Up in Communities with Jamie Beasley (Re-upload... take 2)
(Due to technical issues, this episode has been reuploaded. My apologies to Jamie and to all our listeners. –Dane)
In this episode of the Econ Dev Show, Dane Carlson welcomes back Jamie Beasley, who shares her path from chamber leadership to her current role as a Regional Development Specialist in north central Oklahoma.
Jamie discusses the joys and challenges of working with small towns, the importance of building authentic community connections, and the value of bringing fresh ideas from other places.
She also introduces her new initiative, Econ Dev Ops, a virtual assistant service tailored to chambers of commerce and economic development organizations, designed to help overburdened leaders focus on strategy and growth.
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Ten Actionable Takeaways for Economic Developers
Spend time in the field. Nothing replaces face-to-face conversations.
Look at how other communities solve problems; good ideas travel well.
Small towns often lack staff capacity; find ways to connect them to resources.
Collaboration across counties and regions can amplify limited resources.
Celebrate small wins to keep communities motivated for long-term goals.
Don't underestimate the importance of simply listening to local leaders.
Recognize that chamber directors and small-town EDs often juggle multiple roles.
Consider outsourcing administrative tasks (like social media, invoicing, and newsletters) to free up strategic capacity.
Include small towns in summits and regional events--they often feel overlooked.
Focus on relationships and encouragement--sometimes validation is as valuable as funding.
Special Guest: Jamie Beasley.Sponsored By:Sitehunt: Sitehunt is an AI-enhanced platform that helps economic developers build a comprehensive property database, enabling informed decisions and efficient RFI responses to accelerate site selection and project success.Links:Jamie Beasley | LinkedInChamber Burnout with Jamie Beasley - A Podcast for Chamber ProfessionalsEcon Dev Ops LLCSitehuntCrowdfund BetterSmartStart Business DevelopmentSaveYour.Town – Practical steps to shape a better future for your community, small town, rural or local neighborhoodOklahoma Department of Commerce | Building business in OKEcon Dev Show Podcast - Economic Development 106: The First Month in the ED Director's Chair with Jamie Beasley

Sep 15, 2025 • 30min
190: New Jersey’s Bold Playbook with Kathleen Coviello
In this episode of the Econ Dev Show, Dane Carlson sits down with Kathleen Coviello, Chief Economic Transformation Officer at the New Jersey Economic Development Authority, to explore how New Jersey is reshaping its economic future.
Kathleen discusses the state’s targeted approach to building industries where it has a competitive edge—from film and digital media to life sciences, clean energy, and AI. She shares insights into innovative initiatives like film-ready certified towns, programs that turn company losses into cash, and the ambitious Evergreen Fund designed to attract venture capital and corporate engagement.
Along the way, Kathleen highlights both the opportunities and challenges facing New Jersey, including housing affordability and talent retention, while also offering a candid look at her own journey from venture banking to two decades in public service.
Like this show? Please leave us a review here — even one sentence helps! Special Guest: Kathleen Coviello.Sponsored By:Sitehunt: Sitehunt is an AI-enhanced platform that helps economic developers build a comprehensive property database, enabling informed decisions and efficient RFI responses to accelerate site selection and project success.Links:Kathleen Coviello | LinkedInNew Jersey Economic Development Authority

Sep 8, 2025 • 26min
189: How North Dakota Gets Deals Done with Rich Garman
In this episode of the Econ Dev Show, Dane Carlson sits down with Rich Garman, Director of Economic Development and Finance at the North Dakota Department of Commerce, to explore how North Dakota’s unique scale and culture enable fast, collaborative economic development. Rich highlights the benefits of a close-knit network where “everybody knows everybody,” the ability to push projects forward at breakneck speed, and the importance of trust and reputation in such a small state. Listeners will come away with insights into what makes North Dakota’s approach distinctive and how lessons from the state’s nimbleness can inspire economic developers everywhere.
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Ten Actionable Takeaways for Economic Developers
Build tight relationships across agencies to speed project approvals.
Use small-scale networks to your advantage: connect decision-makers quickly.
Develop a reputation for trustworthiness--bad actors get noticed fast.
Create systems where a single text or call can move a project forward.
Prioritize collaboration over silos; success requires every stakeholder.
Emphasize speed to prospective investors--it's a competitive advantage.
Highlight cultural strengths (community-mindedness, shared goals) in pitches.
Streamline processes wherever possible; eliminate "waiting on someone's desk."
Recognize the risk of reputation spread--protect your credibility at all costs.
Translate small-state agility lessons into big-state or regional contexts.
Special Guest: Rich Garman.Sponsored By:Sitehunt: Sitehunt is an AI-enhanced platform that helps economic developers build a comprehensive property database, enabling informed decisions and efficient RFI responses to accelerate site selection and project success.Links:Richard Garman | LinkedInNorth Dakota State Government - ND PortalND Commerce Director of Econom…–Lignite Energy Council Podcast – Apple PodcastsNorth Dakota Energy Projects, Part 2 | Mike Seminary & Friends

Sep 1, 2025 • 26min
188: Site Selectors Often Experience Your City First as Visitors with Tulsa's Renee McKenney
In this episode of the Econ Dev Show, Dane Carlson talks with Renee McKenney, Senior Vice President of Tourism for the Tulsa Regional Chamber and President of Tulsa Regional Tourism. Renee shares how Tulsa has leveraged its unique history, Route 66 heritage, and creative culture to attract visitors, residents, and businesses. From hosting major sporting events and revitalizing Black Wall Street to promoting film, music, and culinary scenes, Tulsa is redefining itself as a vibrant destination. Renee also explains how integrating tourism with economic development under the chamber umbrella creates a powerful synergy that fuels placemaking, business attraction, and civic pride
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10 Actionable Takeaways for Economic Developers
Integrate tourism and economic development--site selectors often experience your city first as visitors.
Identify and elevate authentic community assets (history, culture, sports, etc.).
Lean into storytelling; narratives like Route 66 or Black Wall Street resonate nationally.
Invest in placemaking that surprises and delights both locals and visitors.
Use large-scale events (sports, festivals, shows) as business attraction opportunities.
Partner with creative industries (film, music, arts) to build brand identity.
Capitalize on civic pride to mobilize communities around unique initiatives.
Focus on accessibility and vibe because livability drives both talent and business attraction.
Treat tourism as "importing money and exporting experiences."
Always be ready for your "prime time": community investments build toward big moments like centennials, championships, or global events.
Special Guest: Renee McKenney.Sponsored By:Sitehunt: Sitehunt is an AI-enhanced platform that helps economic developers build a comprehensive property database, enabling informed decisions and efficient RFI responses to accelerate site selection and project success.Links:Renee McKenney, CDME | LinkedInVisit Tulsa, OKVideo: Tulsa Regional Tourism President Renee McKenney talks PGA Championship returning to Tulsa for a 6th time | News | fox23.comBuilding Beyond the Status Quo… - Dominate Your Day - Apple PodcastsBrand USA Celebrates Its First European Roadshow: The Great USA Road Trip | Brand USASavvyTulsa Tourism Ambassador Program Learning ModuleTulsa's Tourism Industry (SavvyTulsa Tourism Ambassador Program) - YouTube

Aug 25, 2025 • 27min
187: Changing Perceptions of Baltimore with Lakey Boyd
In this episode of the Econ Dev Show, Dane Carlson sits down with Lakey Boyd, Chief Economic Officer at the Greater Baltimore Committee, to explore the unique strengths and opportunities of the Baltimore region. From its historical assets and waterfront livability to the challenges of shifting national perceptions, Lakey shares insights on regional collaboration, economic drivers, and how Greater Baltimore is positioning itself for future growth.
(Sorry about my audio quality. Don't worry: Lakey's is great.)
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10 Actionable Takeaways for Economic Developers
Always frame your community as part of a region — economies rarely stop at city borders.
Address negative perceptions head-on with facts, data, and compelling stories.
Highlight unique local assets (e.g., universities, hospitals, waterfronts) as differentiators.
Showcase livability alongside business opportunities to attract both companies and talent.
Balance historical identity with forward-looking strategies.
Leverage anchor institutions like universities and hospitals to drive innovation and growth.
Collaborate across counties and municipalities to present a united economic front.
Market regional resilience — especially in industries that thrive locally.
Invest in workforce pipelines that connect local talent with growing industries.
Don’t let outsiders define your community’s brand — own your narrative.
Special Guest: Lakey Boyd.Sponsored By:Sitehunt: Sitehunt is an AI-enhanced platform that helps economic developers build a comprehensive property database, enabling informed decisions and efficient RFI responses to accelerate site selection and project success.Links:Greater Baltimore CommitteeLakey Boyd, AICP, CEcD | LinkedIn

Aug 18, 2025 • 24min
186: The Power of Collaboration in Economic Development with Stacie LoVan of the Greater Des Moines Partnership
In this episode of the Econ Dev Show, host Dane Carlson talks with Stacie LoVan, Senior Vice President of Economic Development at the Greater Des Moines Partnership, about the transformative power of collaboration in economic development. Stacie shares how Greater Des Moines has built a culture of regional cooperation, implemented workforce and quality-of-life initiatives, and set bold goals for 2025. Their conversation highlights best practices that other communities can adopt, from aligning diverse stakeholders to creating momentum through shared vision. Whether you’re a veteran practitioner or new to the field, this episode offers actionable strategies for strengthening your own community through collaboration.
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10 Actionable Takeaways For Economic Developers
Prioritize collaboration over competition: regional growth accelerates when communities work together instead of against one another.
Define a clear, shared vision: goals like Greater Des Moines' 2025 plan keep stakeholders aligned and motivated.
Leverage workforce initiatives as anchors: workforce preparedness is often the deciding factor for business attraction and retention.
Balance quality-of-life improvements with economic strategies: housing, amenities, and placemaking are as critical as incentives.
Build a culture of trust among partners: successful collaboration depends on consistent communication and reliability.
Celebrate small wins: incremental progress builds credibility and keeps stakeholders engaged in long-term efforts.
Engage the private sector early: businesses can provide funding, advocacy, and momentum for regional initiatives.
Invest in regional branding: a unified message makes a region more competitive nationally and globally.
Be adaptable to change: collaboration requires flexibility when balancing the needs of multiple stakeholders.
Apply DSM's model to your community: while every region is unique, the principles of shared vision, trust, and collaboration can be replicated anywhere.
Special Guest: Stacie Lovan.Sponsored By:Sitehunt: Sitehunt is an AI-enhanced platform that helps economic developers build a comprehensive property database, enabling informed decisions and efficient RFI responses to accelerate site selection and project success.Links:Greater Des Moines Partnership: LinkedInGreater Des Moines Partnership - YouTubeStacie LoVan | LinkedIn

Aug 11, 2025 • 29min
185: How Local Governments Can Power Startups with John Lynn
In this episode of the Econ Dev Show, Dane Carlson sits down with John Lynn, co-founder and managing partner of Quay Acceleration, to explore how public-sector-backed accelerators are reshaping the entrepreneurial landscape. They discuss the shift from private, investor-focused models to community-centered programs funded by economic development organizations, the unique benefits these accelerators provide to entrepreneurs, and how communities can measure success beyond ROI. John shares real-world examples, including a retail storefront accelerator in Manhattan, insights into evolving capital markets, and his vision for the future of entrepreneurship in an ever-changing economy.
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Ten actionable takeaways for economic developers
Define success metrics for accelerators that align with community priorities, not just investor ROI.
Focus on retention of high-revenue companies as a key measure of long-term impact.
Pair accelerator participants with experienced mentors from relevant industries.
Use accelerators to address specific local economic challenges, such as high retail vacancy rates.
Integrate accelerators into broader multi-tiered economic development strategies.
Ensure program content is field-informed and reflects the latest industry practices.
Leverage public visibility to attract community engagement and media coverage.
Conduct feasibility studies before launching to ensure sustainability and fit.
Expand success metrics to include job creation, revenue generation, and brand recognition.
Build relationships with global networks to bring investment and expertise into local programs.
Special Guest: John Lynn.Sponsored By:Sitehunt: Sitehunt is an AI-enhanced platform that helps economic developers build a comprehensive property database, enabling informed decisions and efficient RFI responses to accelerate site selection and project success.Links:Quay AccelerationJohn Lynn | LinkedInEIR Live | All EpisodesHere's How to Get Your Startup Into Accelerator Element 46 - Business Insider


