

Brain Ponderings podcast with Mark Mattson
Mark Mattson
Conversations with neuroscientists, neurologists, evolutionary biologists, anthropologists, computer scientists, and others that ponder the brain.
Here are a few of the questions that BRAIN PONDERINGS will tackle:
How have brains evolved to enable success in diverse environments?
How does the brain develop in the womb and in early life?
What are the mechanisms responsible for learning and memory, language, and emotions?
How does the brain respond to life’s challenges?
In what ways does the brain influence the body and vice-versa?
What is known about the causes of psychiatric, neurodegenerative, and other brain disorders?
What new technologies are being developed to treat neurological disorders?
How do naturally occurring and man-made chemicals affect the brain?
How can gene therapy, cell regeneration, and brain stimulation be used for brain disorders?
What are the boundaries between ethical and unethical neuroscience research?
Here are a few of the questions that BRAIN PONDERINGS will tackle:
How have brains evolved to enable success in diverse environments?
How does the brain develop in the womb and in early life?
What are the mechanisms responsible for learning and memory, language, and emotions?
How does the brain respond to life’s challenges?
In what ways does the brain influence the body and vice-versa?
What is known about the causes of psychiatric, neurodegenerative, and other brain disorders?
What new technologies are being developed to treat neurological disorders?
How do naturally occurring and man-made chemicals affect the brain?
How can gene therapy, cell regeneration, and brain stimulation be used for brain disorders?
What are the boundaries between ethical and unethical neuroscience research?
Episodes
Mentioned books

Aug 5, 2025 • 49min
Andrew Dillin – Stress and Aging: Mitochondria are Hubs of Information Flow in and Between Cells
Long believed to function only as the cell’s powerhouse research is revealing that mitochondria actively control a cell’s response to various types of stress. Even more amazingly mitochondria send stress-related signals between cells. In this episode UC Berkeley Professor Andy Dillin has made major advances in understanding basic mechanisms of aging, how cells and animals respond to stress, and how the aging process can be influenced by mitochondrial responses to stress. In this episode I talk with Andy about his work and its implications for optimizing health and longevity. LINKS Dillin Laboratory: https://mcb.berkeley.edu/labs/dillin/ Publications https://pmc.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/articles/PMC10399134/pdf/load001.pdf https://pubmed.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/32449292/ https://www.cell.com/action/showPdf?pii=S1097-2765%2817%2930395-7 https://pmc.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/articles/PMC10575585/pdf/sciadv.adi1411.pdf

Jul 29, 2025 • 1h 19min
Marc Freeman – How Astrocytes Control Neural Circuits in Brain Development, Plasticity, and Disease
While neurons and the circuits the form have been the major focus of brain research the human brain contains at least as many cells that are not neurons of which astrocytes are by far the most abundant. During the past decade there have been numerous studies that reveal novel and very active roles for astrocytes in regulating the growth of neurons, the formation and modification of synapses, the activities of neural networks, and behaviors in laboratory animals. In this episode Marc Freeman talks about the fascinating world of astrocytes including their diversity, complex morphologies, and roles in neuroplasticity and disease processes. LINKS: Marc Freeman’s webpage at the Vollum Institute: https://www.ohsu.edu/vollum-institute/marc-freeman-phd Articles discussed in this podcast: https://pmc.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/articles/PMC11513168/pdf/nihms-2030570.pdf https://pmc.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/articles/PMC7897322/pdf/nihms-1657553.pdf https://pmc.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/articles/PMC5161596/pdf/nihms-822004.pdf https://pubmed.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/39386551/

Jul 22, 2025 • 1h 3min
Polina Shichkova: Metabolic and Biophysical Modeling of Breakdown and Repair of the Aging Brain
Because neurons in the brain are electrically excitable and active 24/7 the brain consumes relatively large amounts of energy and must adapt to varying demands on its neural networks. The cellular and molecular complexity of the brain presents a major challenge for understanding not only its second-by-second function but also how neural networks are affected by aging and disease. In this episode Dr. Polina Schichkova talks about how large datasets on cellular energy metabolism gene expression are being used to elucidate how aging affects the brain as a whole. Her findings from analyses of data from brains of young adults and elder humans show that aging results in reduced flexibility of the brain’s bioenergetics and electrical activity. Computer modeling reveals how the brain is altered during aging as well as potential interventions to counteract age-related processes. LINKS Breakdown and repair of metabolism in the aging brain: file:///Users/markmattson/Downloads/fsci-3-1441297%20(2).pdf Multiscale electro-metabolic model of the brain: https://pmc.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/articles/PMC12112163/pdf/pcbi.1013070.pdf Online modeling: https://www.openbraininstitute.org/jupyterhub_metabolism/user/mpaulmattson@gmail.com/lab/tree/obi_platform_analysis_notebooks/Metabolism/analysis_notebook.ipynb

Jul 15, 2025 • 1h 7min
Corinde Wiers: The Potential of Ketone-Based Interventions for the Treatment of Addiction
Research on substance use disorders has largely focused on understanding the key neural circuits and neurotransmitter systems that are altered, and on behavioral and pharmacological interventions. However, emerging research findings suggest that alcohol use disorder (AUD) is associated with alterations in energy metabolism and can accelerate brain aging. In this episode I talk with Dr. Corinde Wiers about substance use disorders with a focus on her recent clinical trials which show that ketone (b-hydroxybutyrate) supplementation can reduce craving for alcohol in people with AUD and can reduce alcohol withdrawal symptoms. We discuss the potential mechanisms that may explain the efficacy of ketone supplementation – and interventions that elevate endogenous ketone production (fasting, exercise, and ketogenic diets) – in AUD. Whether or not ketogenic interventions are beneficial for individuals with other addictions (opioids, cocaine, nicotine, gambling..) remains to be determined. LINKS: Dr. Wiers webpage at the University of Pennsylvania: https://www.med.upenn.edu/apps/faculty/index.php/g332/p9389303 Dr. Wiers’ publications discussed in this podcast: https://pmc.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/articles/PMC8034849/pdf/abf6780.pdf https://pmc.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/articles/PMC8670944/pdf/fpsyt-12-781668.pdf https://pmc.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/articles/PMC10901540/pdf/pyae009.pdf https://pmc.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/articles/PMC10895037/pdf/fnut-11-1254341.pdf

Jul 7, 2025 • 57min
Henning Fenselau – Neural Circuits Controlling Appetite and Energy Metabolism and GLP-1 Actions
Appetite (hunger and satiety) is controlled by neural circuits in the brain – particularly in the hypothalamus – and their reciprocal connections to peripheral organs involved in energy metabolism (gut and liver). Understanding the structural organization of these circuits (their synaptic connections) and their neurochemistry (particularly which neurotransmitters are used at which synapses) is of fundamental importance for human health and developing new treatments for metabolic disorders such as obesity and diabetes. Neuroscientist Henning Fenselau at the Max Planck Institute and University of Cologne Germany has made several major discoveries about how food intake and energy metabolism are regulated and the consequences of abnormalities in the underlying neural circuits. Among his recent findings concern how GLP-1 in the gut communicates with the brain via the vagus nerve, and the roles of specific synaptic signals (NPY, opioids, TRH, and GABA). LINKS Fenselau laboratory page: https://www.sf.mpg.de/research/fenselau GLP-1, the vagus nerve, hunger, and sugar metabolism: https://www.cell.com/action/showPdf?pii=S1550-4131%2821%2900219-9 Synaptic amplifier of hunger: https://pmc.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/articles/PMC10160008/pdf/nihms-1882224.pdf Opioids and sugar appetite https://www-science-org.proxy1.library.jhu.edu/doi/epdf/10.1126/science.adp1510 Brainstem – amygdala circuit during fasting https://pmc.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/articles/PMC11211344/pdf/41467_2024_Article_49766.pdf

Jul 1, 2025 • 1h 9min
Tessa Montague: Disappearing Act - How the Brain Controls Camouflage in Cuttlefish and Octopuses
One of the most remarkable feats of biological ‘wizardry’ in the animal kingdom is the ability of some cephalopods (octopuses, squids, and cuttlefish) to rapidly change the color, patterning, and texture of their skin so as to blend in with their background. They accomplish these feats through the linking of neural circuits in the visual system and brain to muscle cells that control the dispersion of pigment in specialized skin cells called chromatophores. But the details of the neural circuitry and the computational processes that control the camouflaging process remain largely unknown. In this episode Columbia University neuroscientist Tessa Montague talks about her research on the neurobiology of camouflage and the many challenges that must be overcome to better understand this remarkable phenomenon. LINKS Dr. Montague’s cuttlefish lab webpage: Tessamontague.com Links to camouflaging cephalopods https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XocHDvHlcJM https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Ojb1pxcSr5E Articles on the neurobiology of camouflage https://www.cell.com/action/showPdf?pii=S0960-9822%2823%2901182-X https://www.sciencedirect.com/science/article/pii/S0959438824000382?via%3Dihub https://www.cell.com/action/showPdf?pii=S0960-9822%2823%2900757-1

Jun 24, 2025 • 1h 2min
Jonathan Long: Lactate-Phe and Ketone-Phe: Exerkines and Fastokines for Brain Health and Plasticity?
During vigorous exercise lactic acid (lactate) levels increase in the blood and during fasting and extended exercise the levels of the ketone BHB (b-hydroxybutyrate) increase. In this episode I talk with Stanford University professor Jonathan Long about his recent discovery that lactate and BHB in the blood are bound to the amino acid phenylalanine and that they (Lac-Phe and BHB-Phe) have beneficial effects on metabolic and brain health. Lac-Phe levels increase markedly in response to exercise in mice, humans, and race horses. Peripheral administration of Lac-Phe in suppresses food intake and reverses diet-induced obesity and insulin resistance in mice. Genetic ablation of Lac-Phe biosynthesis causes hyperphagy and obesity even in exercising mice showing a critical role for Lac-Phe in the beneficial effects of exercise. BHB-Phe has similar effects on food intake and metabolic health. We talk about the potential benefits of Lac-Phe and BHB-Phe for brain health and resilience. LINKS The Long laboratory webpage: https://longlabstanford.org/ Lac-Phe articles: https://pmc.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/articles/PMC9767481/pdf/nihms-1852727.pdf https://pmc.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/articles/PMC10635077/pdf/nihpp-2023.11.02.565321v1.pdf BHB-Phe article: https://www.cell.com/action/showPdf?pii=S0092-8674%2824%2901214-5

Jun 17, 2025 • 1h 17min
Carlos Matute: Brain White Matter in Health, Endurance Exercise, and Disease
White matter consists of bundles of long axons that convey information between neural circuits between different brain regions within and between brain hemispheres. These long axons are wrapped with many layers of lipid-rich membranes of oligodendrocytes (a type of glial cell) and it is this ‘insulation’ that enables rapid propagation of signals over long distances. The axons in white matter consume high amounts of energy and their energy demand increases during extended physical exercise. In this episode Professor Carlos Matute talks about his interesting journey to become a neuroscientist and his fascinating discoveries concerning the function and dysfunction of oligodendrocyte neurobiology. He and his team recently provided evidence that the lipids in myelin are consumed by neurons in marathon runners during the event and then are replenished during their recovery. We also talk about how oligodendrocytes and axons in white matter are damaged by traumatic brain injuries, stroke, multiple sclerosis, and neurodegenerative disorders. LINKS About Carlos Matute https://www.achucarro.org/director/carlos-matute/ White matter and marathon running https://pmc.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/articles/PMC12021653/pdf/42255_2025_Article_1244.pdf Review articles https://pmc.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/articles/PMC10454078/pdf/ijms-24-12912.pdf https://pmc.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/articles/PMC4493393/pdf/fnana-09-00092.pdf

Jun 10, 2025 • 1h 1min
Michael Kreutz: Amazing Nanomachines in Synapses that Keep Brains Healthy and Wise
Michael Kreutz is Head of the Neuroplasticity Research Group at the Leibniz Institute for Neurobiology in Magdeburg Germany. Using powerful high resolution microscopy and molecular biology tools his laboratory has shown that autophagy occurs within synapses. Synaptic autophagy is stimulated by neural network activity and is critical for their maintenance and for learning and memory. Moreover, evidence suggests that conventional autophagy and exocytic autophagy prevent the abnormal accumulation of pathogenic proteins (Tau, TDP43, etc.) in neurodegenerative disorders. Pharmacological and lifestyle interventions that bolster synaptic autophagy may promote brain health and disease resistance. LINKS Kreutz Laboratory: https://www.kreutzlab.com/ Review article on autophagy and synaptic plasticity https://www.cell.com/action/showPdf?pii=S0896-6273%2825%2900045-5 Activity-dependent protein expulsion in dendrites https://www.cell.com/action/showPdf?pii=S2211-1247%2823%2901009-4 Golgi satellites in dendrites, NCAM, and LTP https://www.cell.com/action/showPdf?pii=S2211-1247%2823%2900703-9

Jun 3, 2025 • 1h 11min
Jordan Grafman: Neural Circuits of Religiosity: ‘The Kingdom of God’ is in the Prefrontal Cortex
Belief in supernatural agents and other religious myths arose as a means of ‘explaining’ the unknown and as a tool for social cohesion and hierarchical control of civilizations. Their religiosity is major feature of a ‘believers’ self identity as well as their group identity. Compelling evidence from multiple types of studies have revealed the neurobiological foundations of beliefs in imaginary deities, an afterlife, and other religious myths. In this episode neuropsychologist Jordan Grafman talks about his research and related research showing that neural circuits in the prefrontal cortex convey religious beliefs much as they convey other beliefs (political, economic, etc.). Particularly fascinating are the results of brain imaging studies of mental imagery (e.g., ‘communicating’ with God), religious fundamentalism, and studies of Vietnam veterans who suffered penetrating brain injuries that dramatically affected their religiosity. These studies confirm and extend previous brain imaging studies by showing that spirituality maps to a brain circuit in the periaqueductal grey similar to lesions that cause delusions. LINKS Review articles https://pmc.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/articles/PMC9583670/pdf/fnbeh-16-977600.pdf https://pmc.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/articles/PMC11638176/pdf/fnhum-18-1495565.pdf Functional brain imaging and religious experiences https://pmc.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/articles/PMC2660736/pdf/zpq4876.pdf https://pmc.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/articles/PMC3929007/pdf/brain.2013.0172.pdf Brain lesions and religiosity https://pmc.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/articles/PMC6197485/pdf/nihms958660.pdf https://pmc.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/articles/PMC8714871/pdf/nihms-1735983.pdf https://pmc.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/articles/PMC11388357/pdf/pnas.202322399.pdf