Destination On The Left

Nicole Mahoney
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Nov 5, 2025 • 39min

452. How Dot Vegas Connects Travel, Technology, and Marketing, with Chris Mondini & Dusty Trevino

On this episode of Destination on the Left, I talk with Chris Mondini, Vice President of Stakeholder Engagement and Managing Director of Europe for ICANN, and Dusty Trevino, CEO of Dot Vegas. We will learn how top-level domains are created and what domains like Dot Vegas can do to help a brand stand out. Our conversation is informative, educational, and will give you a whole new perspective on your brand's Internet address. What You Will Learn in This Episode: How top-level domains (TLDs) are created and why the addressing system of the Internet matters Why distinctive TLDs, like Dot Vegas, offer a strategic advantage for destination branding and marketing What it takes to register your own top-level domain, including the technical, financial, and organizational requirements necessary How geographic domains (such as .vegas, .nyc, and .brussels) can strengthen place identity and foster trust Why cities and entrepreneurs collaborate in launching city-based TLDs, and how community endorsement is essential for successful implementation How adopting new TLDs can make brands more memorable to prospective visitors, and help organizations stand out from the crowd Demystifying Top-Level Domains A memorable web address is more than just a convenience, it's an essential tool for branding, discoverability, and trust. Chris Mondini, Vice President of Stakeholder Engagement and Managing Director of Europe for ICANN, and Dusty Trevino, CEO of Dot Vegas, discuss how TLDs like .vegas, .paris, and .nyc can be invaluable assets for destination marketers, tourism professionals, and place branding experts. Most consider internet domains an afterthought, but as Chris explains, they're the backbone of online connectivity. The Internet isn't a single global network—it's tens of thousands of independently operated networks that agree to connect using common protocols and a shared addressing system. Fifteen years ago, there were only a handful: .com, .net, .org, and so on. Today, there are TLDs for cities (.nyc, .paris), concepts (.guru, .xyz), and more, opening new doors for personalized branding and community-building online. The Dot Vegas Story Dusty offers an inside look into operating Dot Vegas, which shows how a custom domain can amplify a destination's brand. Unlike some city domains, .vegas is globally accessible; anyone can register, regardless of residency. This flexibility enables local businesses, tour operators, and organizations worldwide to associate themselves with the Vegas brand, strengthening their ties to the city's renowned excitement and appeal. Why Top-Level Domains Matter for Marketers A custom TLD isn't just a vanity URL. Operating a TLD means running a piece of internet infrastructure and directly controlling your digital address, data queries, policies, and trust signals. For marketers, there are lots of benefits: Brand Identity: A city or region TLD immediately communicates place and can reinforce local pride. Discoverability: Words like "weddings.vegas" are memorable, making campaigns more effective and easier to recall. Trust & Security: A TLD operated or endorsed by local government or a trusted entity assures users of authenticity—crucial for e-commerce, municipal services, and tourism. Data Insights: TLD operators gain visibility into traffic and usage, supporting more targeted digital strategies. If you see ".yourcity," you can trust you're connecting with the real brand. Top-level domains aren't just technical jargon; they're strategic marketing tools that can transform destination branding, promote community engagement, and build trust with global audiences. Resources: Website: https://www.icann.org/ LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/cmondini/ LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/dustin-trevino-743064a/ We value your thoughts and feedback and would love to hear from you. Leave us a review on your favorite streaming platform to let us know what you want to hear more o​f. Here is a quick tutorial on how to leave us a rating and review on iTunes!
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Oct 29, 2025 • 44min

451. How Travel Alberta's Wild Side is Bringing International Visitors to Canada, with Tannis Gaffney

On this episode of Destination on the Left, I talk with Tannis Gaffney, Chief Marketing Officer of Travel Alberta. Tannis walks us through the strategy behind Canada's wild side branding and the secret behind making their brand permeate everything they do. She shares more about Travel Alberta's collaboration with Indigenous Tourism Alberta and how that relationship has evolved, opening up new immersive cultural experiences for the right types of travelers. What You Will Learn in This Episode: Why Alberta chose to reposition its brand around "Canada's Wild Side" and how leaning into national identity helps the province stand out How research on traveler sentiment influenced their messaging How Travel Alberta encourages creativity and agility, allowing the team to rapidly jump on relevant trends and opportunities How their partnerships are creating authentic, immersive cultural experiences for visitors What strategies Alberta is using to attract American travelers, especially in the winter season How Travel Alberta operates as part of a collaborative "wolf pack" ecosystem, working closely with DMOs, operators, and national partners to drive tourism growth across the province Reimagining Alberta and Showing Off Canada's Wild Side Tannis and her team faced a dilemma familiar to many regional DMOs: international travelers often know Canada's big cities, but not its provinces. Travel Alberta strategically shifted their messaging and instead of leaning exclusively on provincial identity, they now lead with the power of the Canada brand and then highlight Alberta as its most adventurous, untamed offering. By anchoring Alberta's appeal in both its jaw-dropping natural diversity (like six UNESCO World Heritage sites) and the undeniable warmth of its people, the new branding sidesteps "provincial" confusion, offering travelers an invitation to experience "Canada's Alberta", a place where wild landscapes meet welcoming hospitality. Creative Agility Tannis credits much of Alberta's marketing agility to her strategic council. This monthly internal brainstorm is an incubator for spontaneous, opportunistic marketing ideas—ways to seize trends or conversations in innovative, resourceful ways. Take "The Last of Us" TV series, filmed in Alberta. The team quickly released itineraries mapping out the show's filming locations. The response was phenomenal: a thousand percent spike in website traffic as fans sought to experience these sites in real life. Another standout was the "Alberta's Least Liked" campaign, humorously spotlighting untouched, under-visited gems with a tongue-in-cheek video set to sad music and a sobbing moose. The effort won a creative innovation award at the Skift Global Forum and effectively helped spread tourism beyond hotspots, encouraging discovery without overburdening popular destinations. Partnerships and Indigenous Tourism A cornerstone of Alberta's approach is genuine partnership across organizations, sectors, and communities. Travel Alberta's collaboration with Indigenous Tourism Alberta (ITA) stands out as a model. Not only do Travel Alberta and ITA share office space, but their relationship is built on time, trust, and mutual respect. ITA leads in experience development with their members; Travel Alberta amplifies their stories and ensures the right, respectful traveler connects with authentic Indigenous experiences, like the acclaimed Métis Crossing, a boutique hotel and cultural hub on the North Saskatchewan River. This partnership reflects Indigenous values of sustainability, relationship-building, and stewardship, offering a far richer, more transformative experience for visitors. Resources: LinkedIn Personal: https://www.linkedin.com/in/tannis-gaffney-076689/ Website: https://www.travelalberta.com/ LinkedIn Business: https://www.linkedin.com/company/travelalberta/ To Be An Albertan: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5zzN-fV5HJM We value your thoughts and feedback and would love to hear from you. Leave us a review on your favorite streaming platform to let us know what you want to hear more o​f. Here is a quick tutorial on how to leave us a rating and review on iTunes!
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Oct 22, 2025 • 1h 2min

450. Community Conversations on Tourism Partnerships and Collaboration

On this episode of Destination on the Left, I bring together three trailblazers for a candid community conversation about the heart of collaboration in the travel and tourism industry. Joining are Dave Herrell, President and CEO of Visit Quad Cities; Rebecca Mackenzie, President and CEO of the Culinary Tourism Alliance; and Sage Hamilton-Hazarika, Corridor Coordinator for the Underground Railroad Consortium of New York State. Together, we discuss what true collaboration looks like, and the panel explores how putting trust, vulnerability, and outcomes over ego unlocks success not just in visitor numbers, but in cultural pride, reconciliation, and the preservation of stories and identity. My guests share real-life examples of cross-boundary partnerships, from bold destination branding to the creation of transformative culinary and heritage tourism experiences. What You Will Learn in This Episode: Why collaboration in tourism is increasingly about trust, vulnerability, and prioritizing outcomes over individual recognition What tangible impacts true collaboration can have, from advancing reconciliation and celebrating cultural heritage to building destination resilience and social pride How Visit Quad Cities strategically collaborates with less resourced organizations to build regional brands and blur the lines between tourism, resident attraction, and economic development Why even small, volunteer-driven organizations can punch above their weight by leveraging partnerships for major projects What "radical collaboration" means to the panelists, and how adopting a mindset of openness and flexibility allows for bold, innovative work How the panelists measure the success of collaborative initiatives with a broader lens that builds community and legacy Lessons from Destination on the Left's Community Conversation Collaboration isn't just a buzzword—in the travel, tourism, and hospitality industry, it's the engine that powers growth, creativity, and resilience. Drawing on stories from Dave Herrell of Visit Quad Cities, Rebecca Mackenzie of the Culinary Tourism Alliance, and Sage Hamilton-Hazarika of the Underground Railroad Consortium of New York State, this conversation revealed that radical collaboration means far more than sharing resources—it's about trust, vulnerability, and transcending individual mentality. Success in this industry isn't a zero-sum game. Rather than competing, travel professionals thrive when they collaborate, lifting each other up and focusing on shared wins rather than territorialism. Collaboration in Action: Three Inspiring Examples For Dave Herrell, collaboration is built into the DNA of Visit Quad Cities, a regional destination marketing organization spanning 58 communities across two states. Bringing together diverse municipalities, counties, and funding sources demands a strategic approach. Dave described their innovative partnership with the local chamber of commerce to develop unified branding and marketing messages for the region, intentionally blurring the lines between promoting tourism, economic development, and livability. Rebecca Mackenzie painted a picture of taste of place, showcasing how food and drink tell powerful stories about a region's heritage. The Alliance's recent event in Nova Scotia exemplifies radical collaboration: over 12 months, culinary organizations, Indigenous tourism networks, Parks Canada, DMOs, and local operators built an immersive experience intertwining Mi'kmaq history, language, and cuisine. The event attracted visitors outside peak season and fostered social impact and cultural pride. As the sole paid employee in a mostly volunteer-run organization, Sage Hamilton-Hazarika knows firsthand how partnership is essential for small nonprofits punching above their weight. Through collaboration with DMOs, historians, and national heritage areas, the Consortium is developing the Harriet Tubman Scenic Byway, which will connect historic sites across New York and beyond. Radical Collaboration What does "radical collaboration" mean? My guests agreed that it is persistence—the refusal to accept 'no' as an answer, and the humility to let go of credit and control. It means doing the work, inviting new and unexpected voices to the table, and learning from every opportunity that arises. Measurement of collaborative success must consider social and environmental impacts, not just economic ones. For example, being asked to the table, deepening partnerships, celebrating local cultures, and expanding access are all signs of progress—even if your logo isn't always visible. Resources: Dave Herrell: https://www.linkedin.com/in/dave-herrell-57a5906/ Rebecca Mackenzie: linkedin.com/in/rebeccaleheup Sage Hamilton-Hazarika: https://www.linkedin.com/in/sage-hazarika-438b331a Travel Alliance Partnership: https://travelalliancepartnership.com/ We value your thoughts and feedback and would love to hear from you. Leave us a review on your favorite streaming platform to let us know what you want to hear more o​f. Here is a quick tutorial on how to leave us a rating and review on iTunes!
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Oct 15, 2025 • 34min

449. Using LinkedIn for Authentic Engagement, with Greg Star

On this episode of Destination on the Left, I talk with Greg Star, Founder of Driven Authentic Branding Solutions, who shares how he helps destinations stand out using LinkedIn. He discusses why it is important to lean into thought leadership posts both for the company profile and the people who work there. Greg shares some real-life examples of results that his clients are seeing and how you can identify your content pillars and find your voice. What You Will Learn in This Episode: How Greg's personal journey reshaped his outlook on business and inspired the launch of his latest company Why elevating both personal and company brands on LinkedIn is critical for industry reputation and business growth What makes personal LinkedIn posts eight times more engaging than company page posts How tourism professionals and executives can use LinkedIn to generate inbound leads and deepen current client connections Finding your authentic voice and consistently creating compelling LinkedIn content Why consistency matters more on LinkedIn than posting daily, and how this steady rhythm builds trust and visibility How commenting thoughtfully on industry posts can dramatically increase your reach and position you as a leader in your field The Overlooked Power of Personal LinkedIn Profiles Most organizations pour time and money into building their company LinkedIn pages. But as Greg points out, you get eight times more engagement from a personal post than a company post. Yet, less than 10% of travel industry professionals actively post on LinkedIn. Company pages do have a role, but it's the people—sales directors, CEOs, and destination marketers—who bring brands to life on LinkedIn. The attention should be on maximizing the personal profiles of the people behind the organization because that is what's going to move the needle the most for DMOs. Telling Your Brand Story: Content Pillars and Practical Examples Most people struggle with what to post or worry about sounding too self-promotional. Greg simplifies content creation with the content pillars approach: define three to five topics you're passionate about, whether it's industry trends, personal growth, customer wins, or behind-the-scenes stories. Posts can be brief, and three to six sentences are often enough. When you're thinking about what to post: Break down real conversations: What do you say to prospects over coffee? Each point can be its own post. Share stories, not just stats: Humanizing your message attracts more engagement and builds connection. Don't reshare, add your voice: Rather than simply reposting, offer your perspective on company updates or industry news. Comment strategically: Thoughtful comments on others' posts can boost your profile—sometimes even more than your own posts. Greg recommends aiming to post one to three times a week. Consistency is more important than volume, and the key is making LinkedIn content a regular part of your work routine. Don't underestimate the impact your personal story and insights can have on your career, and on your destination's growth and reputation. The world wants to know what makes you (and your place) awesome, so start sharing! Resources: Website: www.drivenbranding.ai LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/greg-star-5911b562/ We value your thoughts and feedback and would love to hear from you. Leave us a review on your favorite streaming platform to let us know what you want to hear more o​f. Here is a quick tutorial on how to leave us a rating and review on iTunes!
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Oct 8, 2025 • 16min

448. Key Insights for a Collaborative 2026, with Nicole Mahoney

On this episode of Destination on the Left, I'm taking you behind the scenes of my own year-end planning process. As we look ahead to 2026, I'll walk you through how I reflect on the past year, celebrating what worked, identifying lessons learned, and checking in on both team and personal well-being. I share everything from my practical planning frameworks and financial benchmarks to trend forecasting and tips for creating a collaborative culture. What You Will Learn in This Episode: Why intentional reflection and bold, future-oriented questions are essential for setting effective priorities and ensuring organizational growth What emerging trends mean for travel, tourism, and hospitality planning in 2026 How I use practical financial benchmarks and department-level planning to ensure the organization is ready for upcoming challenges and opportunities Why operationalizing collaboration by setting clear roles, goals, budgets, and documented processes moves it from a "nice to have" to a real strategic advantage What steps you can take to engage your whole team in the visioning and planning process to create greater buy-in and drive results How you can use my 2026 planning checklist and reflection questions to set your organization up for long-term success Begin with Genuine Reflection Before plotting the future, it's crucial to anchor your plans in a clear-eyed assessment of the present and recent past. It's so important to reflect on accomplishments, goal progress, team health, and personal leadership. I ask myself and my team a few probing questions: What did we accomplish this year? Where did we fall short and why? Are our people thriving, or stretched thin? How is my own mental wellbeing impacting my leadership? These multi-level reflections ground the planning process in reality and provide the learning needed to improve both professionally and personally. Regularly scheduled interviews—such as "stay interviews" with staff—help surface the reasons your team members stay and opportunities for positive change. Industry Trends and Future Readiness How well are you anticipating and responding to the shifts in your sector? It's critical to keep abreast of evolving trends—such as the rise of sustainability and regenerative tourism, persistent workforce challenges, and technological advancements like AI and digital personalization. Simultaneously, there's a noticeable trend toward travelers seeking meaningful, off-the-beaten-path experiences, as well as a movement to "unplug" and seek present-moment enjoyment. Empowering Your Team Planning isn't a solo exercise. At TAP we use a bottom-up approach: each department creates and presents their strategic plans, which are then built into broader company goals. Our annual team retreats blend strategic planning, culture-building, and a lot of fun ensuring everyone plays a role in shaping the future. We foster a sense of ownership among team members at all levels, after all, when everyone is involved, energy and commitment to the plan dramatically increase. I want to leave you with this challenge: What role will collaboration play in your 2026 plan, and how will you operationalize it to drive real results—not just good intentions? Resources: Collaboration Research: https://travelalliancepartnership.com/how-we-help/education/research/ We value your thoughts and feedback and would love to hear from you. Leave us a review on your favorite streaming platform to let us know what you want to hear more o​f. Here is a quick tutorial on how to leave us a rating and review on iTunes!
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Oct 1, 2025 • 32min

447. Redesigning Hospitality Through Local Partnerships in Holmes County, with Jason Nies & LaVern Hershberger

On this episode of Destination on the Left, I talk with Jason Nies, proprietor of the renowned Inn at Honey Run, and LaVern Hershberger, Vice President of Homestead Furniture. This week's show takes us to the heart of Ohio's Amish country, where we dive into a truly unique partnership: The Inn at Honey Run's iconic Club Level Honeycombs—rooms built into the hillside—are set for a major redesign with Homestead Furniture leading the transformation. Jason and LaVern share the story of how their professional paths crossed through local tourism efforts, their shared mission to honor the area's heritage while staying relevant, and how their businesses are making an impact far beyond their own walls by referring guests to one another. What You Will Learn in This Episode: Why both companies are focused on staying relevant to new generations of customers while remaining true to their roots and values What makes Homestead Furniture stand out in the Amish furniture industry How the redesign of the Inn at Honey Run's Club Level Honeycomb rooms will offer guests twelve distinct themed experiences to appeal to diverse visitor preferences Why community collaboration and participating in local tourism committees have been a catalyst for business innovation and personal connection in Holmes County How tourism and destination marketing directly impact both the resort and furniture business, creating a full-circle relationship where each refers customers to the other and enhances the local economy LaVern and Jason's advice on making partnerships work, including the importance of aligned values and trust in each other's expertise Staying Relevant in a Changing Landscape Both the Inn at Honey Run and Homestead Furniture have deep roots in their community—Jason as the inn's third owner and LaVern as part of Homestead's third generation. But remaining core to your brand while evolving to meet modern tastes is a challenge. By integrating contemporary designs and offering full customization, Homestead ensures their craftsmanship appeals to both long-standing customers and a new, design-savvy generation. Jason describes The Inn at Honey Run as "not an Amish country experience" in the traditional sense, but rather "an affordable luxury getaway" located in natural beauty, complete with unique hillside Honeycomb rooms, an award-winning restaurant, and an open-air art museum. By continuously refining the inn's offerings, Jason is setting a new standard for rural luxury and authenticity. A Vision for Diverse, Immersive Stays At the heart of this collaboration is the Honeycomb Homecoming project, a complete reimagining of The Inn at Honey Run's signature Honeycombs—earth-sheltered suites built into a hillside and renowned for privacy and natural immersion. What makes this project groundbreaking is its approach to guest experience. Each of the 12 Honeycomb rooms will be uniquely themed, offering distinctive moods, decor, and even scents to transform the atmosphere. Thanks to the partnership with Homestead, guests will soon be able to choose their ideal ambiance, whether rustic, coastal, mid-century, or traditional, along with the highest level of Amish craftsmanship. Creating a Destination, Not Just a Stay The connection between The Inn at Honey Run and Homestead Furniture extends beyond their immediate partnership. Both Jason and LaVern are actively involved in local tourism development, serving on the chamber's tourism committee to promote Holmes County while preserving authentic Amish culture. Their partnership reinforces Holmes County's status as a top tourist destination in Ohio, attracting visitors eager to escape city life and immerse themselves in natural beauty. The collaboration is full circle; visitors drawn by Homestead's reputation for quality design are guided to stay at the inn, while hotel guests experience Homestead's work firsthand, perhaps inspiring a furniture investment of their own. Resources: Website: https://www.homesteadfurnitureonline.com/ Website: https://www.innathoneyrun.com/ We value your thoughts and feedback and would love to hear from you. Leave us a review on your favorite streaming platform to let us know what you want to hear more o​f. Here is a quick tutorial on how to leave us a rating and review on iTunes!
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Sep 24, 2025 • 53min

446. How to Future-Proof Your Travel Business, with Andrea Ross

On this episode of Destination on the Left, I talk with Andrea Ross, Business Advisor & Executive Coach for Travel Entrepreneurs, all about what it takes to build a successful business in the travel, tourism, and hospitality industry. She explains why focusing on enterprise value and enterprise health is hugely important and why you should not only know what success means to you, but also know how to track it. We also dive into the three key areas that businesses should focus on: financials, process and procedures, and their team. What You Will Learn in This Episode: How Andrea built a successful travel and tourism business in Southeast Asia by bootstrapping a bed and breakfast, launching a tour company, and ultimately scaling operations across several countries Why business owners must create their own vision and business model What enterprise value and enterprise health mean for travel businesses, and why focusing on these is essential for day-to-day operations and long-term sustainability How business owners can assess the health of their company, build a roadmap for growth, and differentiate between working on what's urgent versus what's important Why financials, processes and procedures, and team development are the three most common areas where travel businesses should focus to improve their enterprise health How developing strong leadership, empowering team members, and building the right organizational structure can give owners more freedom and drive business success What steps Andrea recommends for business owners who want to understand their financials better, even if numbers aren't their strong suit, and how to leverage resources and networks to build financial literacy Core Success Principles in the Travel and Tour Industry One of the biggest challenges Andrea highlights is the sheer variety of business models in travel and tourism. With tour operators, DMOs, DMCs, and FITs, each with unique structures, founders are often left to chart their own course. Overarching business principles still apply: passion, dedication, clear vision, and hard work are the fuel for any successful enterprise—regardless of geography or sector. Knowing your market, defining your unique value, and setting clear, achievable goals are all foundational. Andrea encourages business owners to continually ask: "What does success look like for me, and how am I tracking that?" Treat Your Business as an Asset A recurring pitfall is failing to view your business as the major asset it is. Many travel business owners pour years of effort and substantial financial resources into their companies, but neglect to plan for the long game. They're not running their organization so it can be handed over, acquired, or at least run independently of their daily presence. Andrea advocates setting a clear vision to build flexibility and freedom into the business. Whether your goal is acquisition, succession, more time to travel, or simply reducing burnout, only a defined destination can chart the course. And, critically, this vision should evolve with you. Three Pillars of a Healthy Travel Business Andrea identifies three areas where travel businesses most often need shoring up: Financials: Clean, timely reporting, a growth pro forma, and cash flow planning are essential, especially in an industry marked by seasonality and complexity. Processes & Procedures: Too many companies operate with critical knowledge trapped in someone's head. Andrea recommends mapping your customer journey and using tools (like Tango AI) to document workflows, templates, and best practices so anyone can step in when needed. The Team: Your people determine your company's fate. Leaders have to empower teams, develop leadership so urgent problems aren't always landing on their plate. As Andrea says, "work on what's important, not urgent". Step back from daily fires and focus on what matters for long-term health. Set a vision, track progress, and work on big picture issues rather than constant firefighting. Resources: andrea@cultivateadvisors.com www.kaanect.life Health and Value Assessment Tango AI Customer Journey Template We value your thoughts and feedback and would love to hear from you. Leave us a review on your favorite streaming platform to let us know what you want to hear more o​f. Here is a quick tutorial on how to leave us a rating and review on iTunes!
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Sep 17, 2025 • 28min

445. Immersive Travel and Community Empowerment, with Florence Li

On this episode of Destination on the Left, Florence Li, Director of International Development for Songtsam Resorts, shares how her family-owned luxury boutique hotel collection has built its reputation by opening hidden doors to remote destinations in Tibet and Yunnan. She explains how Songtsam differentiates itself by offering immersive cultural experiences, empowering local communities through creative staffing solutions, and staying deeply committed to sustainability. Florence also highlights how the brand's mission to preserve Tibetan culture and protect the environment resonates with today's travelers seeking meaningful, soul-connected journeys. What You Will Learn in This Episode: How Florence's personal journey in hospitality prepared her to help grow Songtsam's international presence Why Songtsam positions itself as a "soft adventure" brand that connects travelers to remote and spiritual destinations The creative approach Songtsam uses to train and empower local staff in small villages Why cultural preservation, job creation, and environmental protection form the backbone of Songtsam's sustainability mission How partnerships with educational organizations have expanded opportunities for cultural exchange The ways Songtsam is responding to trends in wellness, niche experiences, and post-COVID travel behaviors Exciting new projects, including winery hotels and upcoming properties in Kunming and Lhasa Opening Hidden Doors: Immersive Travel in Remote Regions Songtsam's lodges are designed to do more than provide a luxury stay — they immerse travelers in the cultural and natural landscapes of Tibet and Yunnan. Set along the storied Tea Horse Road, each property invites guests to step into a world of tradition, heritage, and connection. Florence explains how Songtsam's "soft adventure" approach gives visitors the chance to engage deeply with local communities, from hands-on crafts to spiritual exploration. For seasoned travelers who crave meaning as much as comfort, this blend of cultural authenticity and refined hospitality opens doors to experiences that feel both rare and transformative. Florence reveals why more people are seeking out these off-the-beaten-path destinations — and how Songtsam has positioned itself to meet that growing demand. Empowering Local Communities Through Creative Staffing Solutions One of the most inspiring aspects of Songtsam's story is its commitment to employing and empowering people from the villages surrounding its properties. Florence acknowledges the challenges of building a world-class hospitality team in places where many residents have little formal education or exposure to global travel. Yet what could have been a limitation became an opportunity for innovation. By finding creative ways to train staff — including trips to see luxury hotels abroad — Songtsam helps local employees gain confidence and skills that transform not only their careers but their communities. Florence shares powerful stories of villagers who have become hotel managers, and how this model has kept jobs, income, and pride rooted in places that might otherwise lose their youth to the cities. Sustainability as a Core Commitment For Florence and Songtsam, sustainability isn't a program; it's a philosophy that shapes every decision. She describes a three-part approach that balances cultural preservation, job creation, and environmental responsibility. From reviving ancient handicrafts through guest experiences to reducing plastic waste and operating Tibet's first low-carbon hotel, Songtsam demonstrates how tourism can be both luxurious and mindful. Wellness is another key dimension of their vision. Drawing on Tibetan healing traditions, Songtsam incorporates meditation, yoga, and natural ingredients into guest experiences that nourish both body and spirit. Florence invites listeners to consider how sustainability and wellness can go hand in hand — not just as trends, but as guiding principles that enrich travel for both visitors and host communities. Resources: Website: https://www.songtsam.com/en LinkedIn Personal: https://www.linkedin.com/in/florence-li-87168b184/ LinkedIn Business: https://www.linkedin.com/company/songtsamgroup/ Email contact: info@songtsam.com We value your thoughts and feedback and would love to hear from you. Leave us a review on your favorite streaming platform to let us know what you want to hear more o​f. Here is a quick tutorial on how to leave us a rating and review on iTunes!
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Sep 10, 2025 • 44min

444. Reclaiming Imagination in Business, with Susan Robertson

On this episode of Destination on the Left, I talk with Susan Robertson, Possibility Architect at Sharpen Innovation and Harvard instructor. Susan shares why so many of us lose our sense of imagination as we grow up and how we can get it back by embracing curiosity and being open to mistakes. We also discuss how even the wildest brainstorming ideas can lead to real breakthroughs and role-play through a few examples to demonstrate that creativity isn't just for artists; it's something we can all tap into to spark fresh ideas. What You Will Learn in This Episode: How Susan Robertson transitioned from a career in consumer packaged goods marketing to becoming a leading expert in creative thinking and innovation Why many adults lose their sense of creativity as they mature, and what neuroscience and research reveal about unlearning imagination and originality What common mental roadblocks, like negativity bias and "yes, but" thinking, prevent teams and individuals from generating new ideas and how to overcome them How Susan's GPS (Great Problem Solving) methodology can be applied to brainstorming sessions to unlock more creative and practical solutions Why embracing divergent (expanding) and convergent (narrowing) thinking is essential for effective ideation and problem solving during group sessions What practical techniques you can use to encourage wild ideas in brainstorming, and how to turn seemingly "crazy" thoughts into innovative, actionable outcomes How replacing judgmental language with open-ended "how might we" questions improves collaboration, sparks better ideas, and leads to breakthrough results How Negativity Bias Sabotages Innovation Internal psychology, not lack of talent, is often the biggest barrier to fresh thinking. Susan points to our shared cognitive biases, especially "negativity bias," as a prime culprit. This is the tendency for negative experiences or feedback to have a greater impact on our thoughts and behaviors than positive ones. In a group or brainstorming session, this bias often emerges as "yes, but" thinking. Someone suggests an idea, and the immediate response is to agree superficially while pointing out flaws, the "yes, but" that immediately follows. The thing is, though, if you're never willing to be wrong, you're never going to try anything different or imagine anything that doesn't exist, shooting down the impractical points right away can stifle the kind of out-of-the-box thinking needed for innovation. Transform Brainstorms into Breakthroughs Susan shares a solution in the form of her GPS methodology, which stands for Great Problem Solving. Here's how it works: List What's Great – When an idea is proposed, first focus on what's interesting, valuable, or potentially exciting about it, even if the idea seems wild or impractical, make a detailed list of these positives. Frame Problems as Opportunities – Instead of jumping to objections, articulate any concerns as "How might we…?" or "How can we…?" questions. For instance, if an idea seems too expensive, avoid the instinctive "That will cost too much!" Instead, ask, "How might we make this more affordable?" Iterate and Combine – Use this list of positive elements and problem-solving questions to evolve the idea. Change as much as needed to address concerns, while preserving what's new and valuable. Sparking Wild Ideas or the "Get Fired" Technique To truly innovate, sometimes you have to go wild on purpose. Susan's favorite technique is to ask everyone to suggest a solution so extreme they'd be fired if it were ever implemented. These over-the-top ideas get creative juices flowing and give psychological permission to break free from conventional limits. Once those "get fired" ideas are out there, use Susan's GPS (Great Problem Solving) method to extract their most intriguing or practical elements and rework them into real-world solutions. Susan recommends making a clear distinction between two modes in group innovation: divergence (generating many wild and varied ideas) and convergence (narrowing down and selecting the best options). By keeping these phases separate—and signaling to the group which mode you're in—you encourage participation and avoid shutting down ideas prematurely. Resources: LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/susanrobertson/ Website: https://www.susanrobertsonspeaker.com/ We value your thoughts and feedback and would love to hear from you. Leave us a review on your favorite streaming platform to let us know what you want to hear more o​f. Here is a quick tutorial on how to leave us a rating and review on iTunes!
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Sep 3, 2025 • 45min

443. Helping Tourism Professionals Reach Gen Z Audiences, with Nathan Oyer

On this episode of Destination on the Left, I talk with our summer intern, Nathan Oyer, who's about to head back to Binghamton University. In this episode, you'll hear a candid introduction with Nathan about his experiences as a TAP intern, then we'll dive right into the training session Nathan led for our team. He shares his insights and research on what makes Gen Z tick, from their love of authentic marketing to the language and wellness trends driving their travel decisions. What You Will Learn in This Episode: Why understanding the differences between generations is key when crafting messages and campaigns aimed at Gen Z versus Millennials, Gen X, or Boomers What makes Gen Z unique as consumers, including their desire for relatable, authentic, wellness-oriented experiences How language and slang can both help and hinder brands when communicating with Gen Z Why relatability, authenticity, and micro-influencers now matter more than celebrity endorsements when engaging with Gen Z audiences What role wellness plays in Gen Z's travel and purchasing decisions, and how destinations and brands can tap into this trend How Gen Z views and responds to cancel culture and why transparency and a willingness to learn from mistakes are so critical Bridging Generational Gaps in Tourism Marketing To market effectively, it's essential to understand the context and experiences that have shaped each generation. Nathan outlined a generational roadmap, from Baby Boomers who value face-to-face connections, paper mail, and research-driven marketing—all the way to Gen Z, born between 1995 and 2009. Unlike previous generations, Gen Z grew up with technology at their fingertips. They're digital natives, expect user-friendly web interactions, and are famous for their short attention spans. Where Millennials (born 1980–1994) might be drawn to nostalgia and Instagram, Gen Z's heart belongs to TikTok, Snapchat, and real-time, less-curated microcontent. Slang to Improve Storytelling One playful, but important, aspect discussed was slang. Gen Z's ever-evolving language isn't just about new words; it's a reflection of community, humor, and relatability. Nathan led the TAP team through some current favorites (like "NPC," and "no cap"), but did share a word of caution that slang is tricky territory for brands. Using slang can humanize a brand and make content pop, but if brands try too hard or use trends after their expiration date, they risk coming across as "cringe" (Gen Z's word, not ours). Wellness, Sustainability, and Social Responsibility Wellness isn't just a trend for Gen Z, it's a lifestyle. They're proactive about their mental and physical health, seeking out travel experiences that contribute to self-care and well-being. When looking for ways to engage Gen Z travelers there are lots of opportunities around trips like spa retreats, vegan experiences and sustainable stays. To connect with Gen Z, brands have to blend strategy with sincerity: adopt the right language, stay up to date with trends, and continuously center authenticity and purpose. Resources: Website: https://travelalliancepartnership.com/ LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/nathanoyer/ Slides: https://travelalliancepartnership.com/wp-content/uploads/2025/09/PESO-101-Speak-Their-Language.pdf We value your thoughts and feedback and would love to hear from you. Leave us a review on your favorite streaming platform to let us know what you want to hear more o​f. Here is a quick tutorial on how to leave us a rating and review on iTunes!

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