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Words & Numbers touches on issues of Economics, Political Science, Current Events and Policy. Each Wednesday we'll be sharing a new Words & Numbers podcast featuring Antony Davies Ph.D and James Harrigan Ph.D talking about the economics and political science of current events. Words and Numbers is a CiVL Original Podcasts, learn more at civl.com
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Nov 20, 2025 • 1h 9min
Episode 474: Schoolhouse Farce
In this episode, we discuss the rising backlash to last week’s comments about Nick Fuentes, the distinction between personal judgment and deplatforming, and the broader question of what ideas belong in public discourse. We explore the failures of remedial education across major universities, the collapsing academic standards that allow students to advance without basic literacy and numeracy, and the systemic incentives that push institutions to “get students through” rather than educate them. We examine the roots of the public-school crisis, the role of property-tax funding, the constraints of unionized pay structures, and why market incentives and genuine school choice may be the only workable path forward. We also revisit lessons from the Soviet Union, grocery-store abundance, and what markets reveal about human flourishing in ways central planning never can.
00:00 Introduction and Overview
01:19 The Camino Story and Unexpected Love of Hiking
05:03 Walking Ancient Roman Roads with Modern Tech
07:50 Criticism, Free Speech, and the Nick Fuentes Debate
13:24 Where to Draw the Line on Platforming Extremists
14:49 The Difference Between Preference and Censorship
18:43 Foolishness of the Week: University of Arizona AI Prompting Class
20:13 College Remediation and the Math Skills Crisis
23:08 The Collapse of Writing Standards in Higher Education
24:31 Why Students Aren’t Being Educated Before College
29:08 Public Schools, Property Taxes, and Unequal Outcomes
33:53 Why Money and Teacher Quality Don’t Correlate
35:34 School Choice, Competition, and Market Incentives
37:02 Why Centralized Solutions Don’t Work in Education
39:50 Markets, Feedback Loops, and Real Accountability
46:11 Closing Thoughts and Listener Send-Off
47:33 Aftershow: Khrushchev, Yeltsin, and the Grocery Store Lesson
53:51 The Power of Markets: Food, Abundance, and Freedom Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices

Nov 18, 2025 • 52min
Episode 473: Blowing Bubbles
In this episode, we discuss how Meta and its algorithms shape what we see online, why the penny has finally been discontinued, and the legal and economic complications that follow from eliminating small denominations. For the “foolishness of the week,” we highlight a small-town newspaper that was awarded a $3 million settlement stemming from an unlawful raid, and the First Amendment implications it raises. We examine the disconnect between a sluggish economy and soaring asset prices, discuss how Fed policy and excess liquidity fuel inflation in financial markets, and consider what rising bubbles in stocks, housing, gold, and bitcoin mean for retirement planning and long-term investment behavior.
00:00 Introduction and Overview
00:37 Meta Entertainment and Hot Wheels
04:49 The Discontinuation of the Penny
06:45 How Eliminating Pennies Would Affect Retailers and Consumers
11:18 Who Actually Has the Power to Change U.S. Currency
12:49 Reflections on U.S. Currency
15:57 Foolishness of the Week: $3 Million Newspaper Raid Settlement
18:05 Press Freedom, Accountability, and Government Overreach
20:58 Understanding Financial Bubbles
24:29 Why the Markets Aren’t Reflecting Economic Reality
27:35 The Fed’s Liquidity Regime and Phantom Wealth
33:56 Unintended Consequences of Economic Policies
37:55 Investing in a Changing Economy
38:49 Retirement Planning in a Bubble-Driven Economy
41:11 Learning from Historical Economic Events
43:14 Personal Anecdotes and Economic Trends
45:12 Future of Investments Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices

Nov 13, 2025 • 55min
Episode 472: Trumptimism
In this episode, we examine the growing disconnect between education theory and classroom reality, as academic research drifts toward identity themes while teachers confront daily behavioral and practical challenges. We discuss the BBC’s misleading edits of Trump’s January 6 remarks and what the scandal reveals about media trust, then turn to a “foolishness of the week” on claims about podcasting’s diversity problem. We analyze new polling that shows Trump losing ground with Republicans and independents, rising economic frustration, and how political pressure is driving shifts on tariffs, immigration, and labor policy. We also touch on the Epstein files debate and the constitutional limits on congressional speech, considering how these controversies reflect changing public opinion and the incentives that push policymakers back toward the center.
00:00 Introduction and Overview
00:34 Academia’s Incentive Problem
07:47 BBC Scandal and Leadership Failures
11:13 The “Podcast Diversity” Study
13:01 Social Media Algorithms and Reel Addiction
16:36 Trump’s Approval Slide and Voter Frustration
22:00 What Off-Year Elections Reveal
23:20 Inflation, Consumer Sentiment, and Economic Strain
25:29 Trump’s Tariffs and Mercantilist Policies
29:24 Immigration Shifts and Labor Shortages
35:09 Government Limits
37:50 Epstein Files and Foreign Influence Concerns
43:48 Shutdown Fallout and The Republican Midterm Strategy
49:49 Hope for the Future Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices

Nov 11, 2025 • 1h 30min
Episode 471: 50 Years a Mortgage Slave
In this episode, we take a close look at the growing complexity of legislation in the age of artificial intelligence and how longer, denser bills create new incentives for politicians to hide provisions that voters would never spot on their own. We also examine the Trump administration’s new visa rules, including the unexpected decision to classify obesity as grounds for denial, and what this says about public policy and shifting cultural norms. We analyze Trump’s proposal for $2,000 tariff-funded checks and the Supreme Court case that could unravel the entire tariff structure, followed by a deeper dive into the real economics of trade, revenue, and political incentives. We finish with a look at the housing market, the push for 50-year mortgages, and why extending loan terms does little to address the underlying supply constraints driving home prices and unaffordability.
00:00 Introduction and Overview
00:28 The Future of Legislation in the Age of AI
08:07 No Visas for Obese People
12:12 Foolishness of the Week: $2,000 Checks for All Americans
19:40 Trump’s Political Gambit
22:35 Budget Deficits and the Myth of Tariff Revenue
28:13 The Housing Affordability Crisis
31:16 Mortgage Rates, Down Payments, and Lending Standards
35:56 The 50-Year Mortgage Proposal and Its Real Costs
45:08 30-Year vs 50-Year Mortgage Interest Rates
51:51 Are Tiny Homes the Solution?
53:50 How Politicians Could Implement 50-Year Mortgages
56:17 The Role of Banks in the Lending Business
57:18 What Mortgages and Loans Allow
01:03:20 Predictions for 50-Year Mortgages
01:07:01 Is Inflation Falling?
01:09:19 Conclusions on Mortgages and Lending
01:13:06 James’s Personal Mortgage Story
01:15:41 The Problems with Higher Education and Student Loans Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices

Nov 6, 2025 • 1h 1min
Episode 470: Partisan Death Spiral
In this episode, we discuss false scarcity and how fear drives bad economic decisions, comparing self-sufficiency with the global benefits of free trade and the trust that arises from voluntary exchange. We examine the economics of water management, from property rights and groundwater to desalination and market incentives for conservation. We also cover corruption in sports betting, political hypocrisy in market regulation, and the populist rise of figures like Tucker Carlson and Nick Fuentes. We explore the decline of moderation in American politics, the failures of the two-party system, and what genuine self-government could look like in a more responsible democracy.
00:00 Introduction and Listener Mail
02:56 The Illusion of Scarcity and Economic Fear
04:14 Self-Sufficiency vs. the Benefits of Global Trade
05:11 Trust, Trade, and Peace Between Nations
08:24 Water Rights and the Economics of Groundwater
10:18 Innovation, Desalination, and Market Incentives
13:17 Sports Betting, Corruption, and the UFC Scandal
16:50 The Economics of Insider Trading
19:26 Foolishness of the Week: YouTube TV and Disney
24:05 Tucker Carlson, Nick Fuentes, and Political Extremes
28:21 The Rise of Populism and the Fall of Moderation
34:03 How Social Media Empowers Extremists
45:29 The Need for Statesmanship Over Leadership
51:51 Breaking the Two-Party Grip on Power
54:08 How to Restore Self-Government and Public Trust Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices

Nov 4, 2025 • 56min
Episode 469: An American King?
In this episode, we discuss vacuum espionage, election polling, voter bias, and the persistence of the “hidden Republican” phenomenon, before turning to the Foolishness of the Week on Barack Obama’s shifting racial politics. We then speak with historian David Beito, author of FDR: A New Political Life, about Franklin D. Roosevelt’s lasting impact on American governance. We examine how FDR reshaped the federal government through progressivism, centralized planning, and the expansion of executive power, connecting his presidency to modern debates over welfare, economic rights, and political authority. We also explore the contradictions of FDR’s leadership, his charisma and pragmatism alongside his willingness to suppress dissent, and how his policies continue to influence government and public trust today.
00:00 Introduction and Overview
00:53 The Smart Vacuum That Spied
04:25 Off-Year Elections in California and New York
06:55 Polling Bias and the Hidden Republican Vote
09:15 Foolishness of the Week: Barack Obama
10:21 Race, Identity, and Political Opportunism
15:36 Guest Introduction: Historian David Beito
16:58 Debunking the FDR Myth
18:20 FDR’s Progressive Ideology and Power Mindset
26:45 Central Planning and the New Deal
29:09 Comparing FDR to Modern Presidents
31:09 What If FDR Hadn’t Died in Office?
34:53 FDR’s Second Bill of Rights
40:18 Why the Great Depression Lasted Longer in America
43:24 FDR’s Legacy of Surveillance and Bureaucracy
48:10 Emergency Powers and Modern Parallels
52:26 Closing Reflections and Book Plug Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices

Nov 2, 2025 • 17min
Members: Unintended Consequences - Join CiVL.COM
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Unintended consequences arise when decision makers impose decisions on people and those people react in ways the decision makers didn’t anticipate. Unintended consequences can’t be fixed through better decision making because the problem doesn’t arise from the decision maker. They arise from the fact that people are being forced to behave in a way they’d rather not behave. We'll walk through myriad examples of well-intended laws and regulations that resulted in unintended consequences that either reversed or mitigated the policy makers’ intentions. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices

Oct 30, 2025 • 1h 7min
Episode 468: Shut It Down
In this episode, we examine how Americans view government power and economic responsibility during another federal shutdown. We discuss growing distrust of federal authority, confusion over who holds real power, and how political brinkmanship creates real-world consequences such as missed paychecks, grounded flights, and suspended food aid. We cover the ethics of welfare and workfare, the balance between private charity and public assistance, and the economic effects of shutdowns, tariffs, and education spending. Together, these issues reveal how political dysfunction continues to weaken public trust and fiscal stability.
00:00 Introduction and Overview
00:30 The Myth of Hard Work and the American Dream
01:58 Capitalism vs. Socialism
03:41 Public Distrust in Federal Power
06:43 Trump’s Tariffs and the Economics of Uncertainty
09:56 Trump Derangement Syndrome
12:42 Do Billionaires Really Hoard Wealth?
19:18 Foolishness of the Week: Arizona’s $80 Million Stadium
22:58 Education Spending and Misplaced Government Priorities
25:20 The Real Cost of a Government Shutdown
29:13 Welfare Reform and the Ethics of Government Aid
32:40 Private Charity vs. Public Assistance
35:05 Flight Delays Due to Shutdown and Thanksgiving
39:17 Who Eats the Losses of a Shutdown?
45:31 Healthcare Costs, Subsidies, and Political Optics
49:09 How Shutdowns Expose Government Dysfunction
51:12 How Will the Shutdown End?
57:01 No Happy End in Sight
59:14 Dream Podcast Guests and Conclusion Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices

Oct 28, 2025 • 1h 5min
Episode 467: The Sound of Money
In this episode, we discuss Denmark’s proposal to grant citizens ownership of their face, voice, and likeness to combat AI deepfakes, and the ethical and legal implications of personal identity rights in the digital age. We highlight the “foolishness of the week” involving tariffs and political overreaction to a Canadian ad campaign, and explore the concept of sound money with guest Jp Cortez of the Sound Money Defense League. The conversation covers gold and silver as currency, the consequences of fiat money and inflation, and how monetary policy shapes economic freedom, government power, and personal responsibility.
00:00 Introduction and Overview
00:27 Denmark's Copyright Law
02:39 AI Deepfakes and Property Rights
05:10 Unintended Consequences of the Law
08:29 The Ethical Implications of AI Deepfakes
10:47 Foolishness of the Week: Reagan's AI Ad
12:16 Trump’s Reaction to the Reagan Ad
15:01 Introduction to Jp Cortez and Sound Money Defense League
15:25 Re-monetizing Gold and Silver
17:09 Sound Money Index Explained
19:04 Challenges with the US Dollar
21:28 Gold's Stability and Historical Context
26:34 The Role of States in Sound Money
30:25 Practical Implications of Sound Money
37:24 The Moral and Ethical Case for Sound Money
42:12 Congress’s Role in Taxation
46:28 Sound Money as a Safeguard Against Failed Government
48:05 Global Trends in Gold and Silver
51:05 The Meaning of the Price of Gold
53:39 The Impact of Monetary Policy on Poverty
55:49 Why Gold Has Stood the Test of Time
01:00:07 Conclusion and Call to Action Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices

Oct 26, 2025 • 13min
Members: The Knowledge Problem - Join CiVL.COM
Words & Numbers Live is a members only series exclusive to CiVL.com in which Antony and James discuss politics, philosophy, and economics, and invite listeners for a live Q&A session. To participate, subscribe at CiVL.com, where you can see what lectures we have coming up, and access all of our Words & Numbers content.
We don’t “know” nearly as much as we think we do, and this causes all kinds of political problems. How do we come to know things, and what does that mean in terms of our goals and plans? Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices


