Ep. 18 My interview with another officer who recently left the Seattle Police Department. We discuss why he originally made the move from his home town in Alabama to join SPD, only to make the tough decision to leave due to the lack of community support and not being able to police effectively, including seeing victims re-victimized when police cannot make arrests. As he says, having to be a proactive officer turning a blind eye to crime. We get into these and other issues in this current environment. This officer is also one of two SPD officers that King County Metro bus driver Eric Stark credits with saving his life after he, Eric, was shot while driving the bus in March 2019. And as I always do, I ask him why he became a police officer, what the rewards have been, how much a thank you means, and what’s keeping him going – his answer in part – remembering why he became a police officer in the first place.

Ep. 17 In Part 2 of my interview with this sergeant in the Pacific NW, we tackle the subject of deadly use of force and when it is necessary. We examine often-asked questions citizens have about these encounters. We then turn to how LE is a true family and the rewards of the job. As she describes, her best days on patrol were when people thanked her at the end of the contact, often after she had to arrest them. She talks about the citizens she remembers, and how sharing a little about herself and listening to people goes a long way toward showing her "human side," the person in the uniform, to build two-way communication and understanding. 

Ep. 16 Part 1 of 2. A sergeant with 20 years on a mid-sized agency in the Pacific NW explains she never considered becoming a police officer because of the unfavorable view she had of law enforcement growing up. We talk about what changed her mind and why a career as an LEO means so much to her especially, as she explains, as a woman of color being able to represent the underrepresented. We discuss how the area she grew up in, which was known for gang violence, and her first job as a counselor for incarcerated youth helped inform her work. We also talk about her reaction to the killing of George Floyd. Our interview took place prior to the Derek Chauvin trial and our conversation and reactions are based on the incident as it was portrayed in the news when it happened. We also discuss what it’s like being a police officer during these difficult times for law enforcement. In Part 2, we get to talk about the rewards of the job.

Ep. 15 Former Seattle Police Officer Part 3 of 3. Riots. Rewards. Resignation. Today I complete a series of three interviews with a former Seattle police officer who was with the department for 14 years. We talk about working the protests and riots over the summer, in particular holding the line at the SPD’s East Precinct the closure of which made national news. The officer discusses watching legitimate protests overrun by those bent on destruction and harming officers. We talk about the inability to police effectively and hold those committing crimes accountable due to changes in filing standards and failure to press charges, changes that have forced this officer to make the difficult decision to leave the Seattle Police Department. And even with all that has happened, he reflects on what the rewards have been.

Ep. 14 - Part 2 of 3. Joel’s story. This the second of three interviews with an officer who spent 14 years on the Seattle Police Department. We pick up where we left off in Part 1 talking about the work this officer did with SPD’s Crisis Intervention Team. We focus on the story of Joel Reuter. Much has been written about Joel, his skill working in technology, his friendly nature as well as his mental illness and the incident that ultimately took his life.  We discuss how much this officer along with the mental health professional that partnered with the CIT did to help Joel get the treatment he needed. It’s the part of Joel’s story you haven’t heard. In the interview, we talk about Joel’s Law which was championed by Joel’s father and signed into law in 2015, two years after Joel’s death. Here is a link with more information: https://www.tvw.org/blog/2015/05/gov-inslee-signs-joels-law-two-years-after-joel-reuters-death/

Ep. 13. Part one of three – Saving Lives. This is the first in a three-part series with a former Seattle Police Officer who recently left the department after 14 years. First, in this part, we look back at the great work this officer did with the Seattle Police Department. We start with his response to the shooting in March 2019 of Metro Bus Driver Eric Stark whose story of heroism is featured in EP. 8. Eric credits two SPD officers with saving his life. This is one of those officers. We then talk about this officer’s work on SPD’s Crisis Intervention Team which works with Mental Health Professionals (MHPs) to respond to incidents of persons in mental crisis. This is the co-responder model that I’ve discussed previously in this podcast. This officer’s stories illustrate the lengths SPD goes to to help people get treatment and into programs as an alternative to incarceration. Later in this three-part series, we revisit the summer of 2020 during which this officer worked the front lines of the riots, riots that continue in many markets; and we discuss his decision to leave SPD, a department he had hoped to stay with until retirement. Each part of the series will air one week apart.  Booking, interviews, pre- and post-production, editing by Abby Ellsworth. Music courtesy freesound.org.

Ep. 12 features Assistant Chief David Green with the San Bernardino Police Department. We talk about the challenges of policing in California due to the impact of state initiatives involving decriminalization, zero bail amounts, moving the prison population into county jails and more, mandates that are having a major impact on law enforcement and the community, as similar initiatives are having in other markets around the country.  Chief Green also discusses the horror of the 2015 terrorist attack, a mass shooting and attempted bombing perpetrated by heavily-armed husband and wife extremists that left 14 dead and dozens injured. It was the deadliest terrorist attack in the U.S. since the 9/11 attacks only to be surpassed by the Orlando Pulse Nightclub shooting the following year. We close by discussing why he became a police officer and what the rewards have been.

A Detective from a San Diego County agency with 15 years in LE talks about his current role in robbery, home invasion, kidnapping and carjacking investigations. He started out with Seattle PD in 2005 and shares stories of his time there including the interesting aspects of working undercover. For the first time in this podcast, we discuss the impact of line-of-duty deaths. We also talk about the challenges of the current anti-police environment, the importance of giving people a chance to be heard in any interaction, and the impact of CA state policies on LE’s ability to protect the community. And of course, we talk about the rewards of the job and why he became a police officer. Listed below are the line-of-duty deaths we discuss. If you can, take a minute to read their stories. There are many moving news articles about each of these incidents and the impact on those they were forced to leave behind.  To these officers and the many others not mentioned here, we thank you for your service.  Gone But Not Forgotten. Seattle PD Officer Tim Brenton https://www.odmp.org/officer/20104-officer-timothy-q-brenton Lakewood Police Department Officers https://www.odmp.org/officer/20137-sergeant-mark-joseph-renninger https://www.odmp.org/officer/20140-police-officer-ronald-wilbur-owens-ii https://www.odmp.org/officer/20139-police-officer-gregory-james-richards https://www.odmp.org/officer/20138-police-officer-tina-gail-delong-griswold Seattle Police Officer Joselito Barber https://www.odmp.org/officer/18435-police-officer-joselito-alvarez-barber Dallas Police Department Officers https://www.odmp.org/officer/22894-senior-corporal-lorne-bradley-ahrens https://www.odmp.org/officer/22895-police-officer-michael-leslie-krol https://www.odmp.org/officer/22896-sergeant-michael-joseph-smith https://www.odmp.org/officer/22898-police-officer-brent-alan-thompson https://www.odmp.org/officer/22897-police-officer-patricio-enrique-zamarripa San Diego PD Officer Jeremy Henwood https://www.odmp.org/officer/20924-police-officer-jeremy-nicholas-henwood All booking, interviews, editing and production by Abby Ellsworth. Music courtesy freesound.org.

January is Slavery and Human Trafficking Awareness and Prevention month, so I am talking with Jim Fuda who is the Director of Crime Stoppers of Puget Sound and Vice Chairman of the recently launched Crime Stoppers Global Solutions. A big part of their focus is international outreach to stop human trafficking as well as other major felony crimes. Jim is a 48-year career police officer who has worked many overseas assignments where he has seen heinous crimes such as child sex trafficking. It compelled him to form an NGO where Crime Stoppers can leverage technology to assist in the fight against transnational crime. In the interview, we reference the content and stories featured in a compelling PSA Jim created about child sex trafficking; you can see it on YouTube: ttps://youtu.be/gw7ZFgf1FCA. Crime Stoppers is a non-profit organization. The rewards they pay out for tips that lead to arrests with charges come from donations. You can make a donation at their website www.csglobalsolutions.org

I talk with an officer from a mid-sized agency in the Pacific NW who has been on for just under two years. We talk about why she recently changed careers to become a police officer and what it’s like having joined at this challenging time for LE. Given the location of her department, she has not been on the front lines of riots and protests. But she is battling an assault on a personal level, in her life and relationships with the perspective people have of the police, not just nationally, but within her own circle. It is something I imagine many officers new or tenured are experiencing. We talk about the need for conversations on difficult topics, George Floyd, and making a difference.  Her insights are heartfelt and heart wrenching.