
The Discerning Leader Podcast
The Discerning Leader podcast is for Christian leaders who are interested in discovering the joy of “practicing a preference for God” in all aspects of their personal lives and relationships, their leadership and service to others. Each episode our host, Steve Macchia, founder and president of Leadership Transformations, Inc. (LTI), with friends from the LTI community, will explore one aspect of spiritual discernment as a way of life. Join us on this refreshingly transformational journey and add your voice to this leadership conversation.
Latest episodes

Apr 13, 2025 • 6min
Palm Sunday - April 13 | Holy Week Interlude 2025
The Discerning Leader Podcast pauses its weekly episodes to feature this Holy Week Interlude. As Lent comes to its pinnacle during Holy Week, each of these episodes reminds us of the death, burial and resurrection of Jesus. With a daily Scripture reading and excerpt from Outstretched Arms of Grace, these reflections invite you to walk with Jesus through the final week of his earthly life. Journey with us toward the cross, the empty tomb and into the bright light of joy-filled Resurrection Day. Special Guest: Suz Skinner Reading: Matthew 21:1-11 Join the conversation about spiritual discernment as a way of life at www.LeadershipTransformations.org and consider participation in our online and in-person program offerings. Additional LTI spiritual formation resources can be found at www.SpiritualFormationStore.com and www.ruleoflife.com and www.healthychurch.net.

Apr 10, 2025 • 28min
Benediction and Conclusion | Broken and Whole Episode 15
Co-Hosts: Steve Macchia and Matt Scott “God’s love is the greatest healer, the golden filigree of restoration and redemption of every ounce of pain being carried by an overburdened life.” - Steve Macchia Season 34 comes to a close as this episode reflects on some of the central themes of Steve’s book “Broken and Whole.” In this final conversation, Steve and Matt remind the listener that God desires to gracefully forgive and redeem our brokenness. And as the Spirit does a renewing work in our body, mind, and soul, strength will emerge from weakness. May this concluding episode offer you hope for reconciliation and restoration as you live and serve in the kingdom of God. Join the conversation about spiritual discernment as a way of life at www.LeadershipTransformations.org and consider participation in our online and in-person program offerings. Additional LTI spiritual formation resources can be found at www.SpiritualFormationStore.com and www.ruleoflife.com and www.healthychurch.net.

Apr 3, 2025 • 31min
Inviting Redemption | Broken and Whole Episode 14
Co-Hosts: Steve Macchia and Matt Scott “Stop. Notice. Listen. Pray. Reorder. Live. Serve. Repeat.” - Steve Macchia God is a redeeming God. He loves to redeem, and He can and will redeem anything as long as it's brought into the light. This podcast conversation explores how God brings about redemption and transformation in our souls as we learn to reorder our loves. Looking at people, possessions, power and persuasions, Steve and Matt discuss tangible ways we can welcome and embrace God’s redemptive work in our everyday, ordinary living. Join the conversation about spiritual discernment as a way of life at www.LeadershipTransformations.org and consider participation in our online and in-person program offerings. Additional LTI spiritual formation resources can be found at www.SpiritualFormationStore.com and www.ruleoflife.com and www.healthychurch.net.

Mar 27, 2025 • 37min
No Pain Is Ever Wasted | Broken and Whole, Episode 13
Co-Hosts: Steve Macchia and Matt Scott “Courage is not found in the human strength required to vault but in the Spirit’s power that comes alive in the decision to persevere.” - Steve Macchia We’ve all experienced heartache and sorrow in our lives. And to resolve that our pain will not be wasted requires great courage, resilience, and trust. This episode of The Discerning Leader podcast explores how we view our wounds, our disappointments, our suffering, and our pain. Listen in and receive wisdom and encouragement to remember that God can and will redeem our pain. Join the conversation about spiritual discernment as a way of life at www.LeadershipTransformations.org and consider participation in our online and in-person program offerings. Additional LTI spiritual formation resources can be found at www.SpiritualFormationStore.com and www.ruleoflife.com and www.healthychurch.net.

Mar 20, 2025 • 33min
Waxing and Waning Hope | Broken and Whole Episode 12
Co-Hosts: Steve Macchia and Matt Scott “Hope in the heart breeds generosity unmeasured.” - Steve Macchia How do we hold onto hope in times of despair? This episode of The Discerning Leader podcast explores how we can hold fast to hope by believing, trusting, and resting in a God who is unfailing in His power and promises. If you're needing a renewed sense of hope amidst the challenges of daily living, this conversation will pour courage into your soul. Join the conversation about spiritual discernment as a way of life at www.LeadershipTransformations.org and consider participation in our online and in-person program offerings. Additional LTI spiritual formation resources can be found at www.SpiritualFormationStore.com and www.ruleoflife.com and www.healthychurch.net.

Mar 13, 2025 • 37min
The Pitfalls of Needing to be Wanted | Broken and Whole Episode 11
Co-Hosts: Steve Macchia and Matt Scott “Living lovingly, freely and with trust is always the best posture.” - Steve Macchia How do we combat the urge to assert our giftedness, competency and wisdom? This episode of The Discerning Leader podcast explores some of the pitfalls of needing to be needed and wanting to be wanted. Learning to live and lead from a place of trusting that God loves us, forgives us, knows us and accepts us is foundational to serving others from a humble heart. Join the conversation about spiritual discernment as a way of life at www.LeadershipTransformations.org and consider participation in our online and in-person program offerings. Additional LTI spiritual formation resources can be found at www.SpiritualFormationStore.com and www.ruleoflife.com and www.healthychurch.net.

Mar 6, 2025 • 35min
When Fear and Worry Ensnare the Heart | Broken and Whole Episode 10
Co-hosts: Steve Macchia and Matt Scott “We can embrace our propensity toward worry, anxiety and fear and find our restoration in the peaceful presence of Christ.” - Steve Macchia God is a God of peace and rest. And yet, we spend many of life’s moments fearful, anxious, worried, and longing for peace. This episode of The Discerning Leader podcast invites you to consider how the messengers of fear, anxiety, and worry can reveal the deep places of our soul. Tune into this conversation and receive God’s invitation into more peace, less anxiety, and true rest for your soul. Join the conversation about spiritual discernment as a way of life at www.LeadershipTransformations.org and consider participation in our online and in-person program offerings. Additional LTI spiritual formation resources can be found at www.SpiritualFormationStore.com and www.ruleoflife.com and www.healthychurch.net.

Feb 27, 2025 • 37min
The Truth Always Sets You Free | Broken and Whole Episode 09
Co-Hosts: Steve Macchia & Matt Scott “To avoid truth is to embrace a false reality, which can lead us into the downward spiral of deception.” - Steve Macchia Many of us have a hard time accepting Jesus’ claim ‘The truth will set you free.’ We feel that if people knew the deepest and most broken parts of us, we would be abandoned, discarded, rejected or exploited. This episode of The Discerning Leader podcast explores how the painful and discomforting act of truth-telling indeed liberates and sets us free. And as we do so, we are reconciled to God, to one another and to ourselves. Join the conversation about spiritual discernment as a way of life at www.LeadershipTransformations.org and consider participation in our online and in-person program offerings. Additional LTI spiritual formation resources can be found at www.SpiritualFormationStore.com and www.ruleoflife.com and www.healthychurch.net.

Feb 20, 2025 • 39min
The Destruction of Unbridled Anger | Broken and Whole Episode 08
Co-Hosts: Steve Macchia & Matt Scott “Deep trust in God leads us out of an angry disposition into a Christ-centered redemption.” - Steve Macchia How do we engage the emotion of anger and its accompanying behaviors? Rather than suppress, avoid or dismiss our anger, this podcast conversation invites you to be curious about its root and source. As we approach our anger with empathy and compassion, we can feel it’s power subside as we begin to embody the gentleness and grace of God toward others. Join the conversation about spiritual discernment as a way of life at www.LeadershipTransformations.org and consider participation in our online and in-person program offerings. Additional LTI spiritual formation resources can be found at www.SpiritualFormationStore.com and www.ruleoflife.com and www.healthychurch.net.

Feb 13, 2025 • 35min
Love Is Not Self-Seeking | Broken and Whole Episode 07
Co-Hosts: Steve Macchia & Matt Scott “The one who seeks solitude without fellowship perishes in the abyss of vanity, self-infatuation, and despair.” - Steve Macchia How easy it is to become self-absorbed, self-focused, self-promoting, self-centered and self-gratifying. Too often, we get fixated on ourselves and totally miss others. And although we are made for community and designed to be in relationship with others, we often believe that if we don’t care for ourselves, no one else will. This episode explores the relationship between solitude and fellowship, inviting you to experience the fullness of kingdom community. Join the conversation about spiritual discernment as a way of life at www.LeadershipTransformations.org and consider participation in our online and in-person program offerings. Additional LTI spiritual formation resources can be found at www.SpiritualFormationStore.com and www.ruleoflife.com and www.healthychurch.net.