The Discerning Leader Podcast

Nicholas Rowe, a seasoned professor in leadership with a focus on reconciliation, and Sheila Wise Rowe, a counselor and author dedicated to trauma healing, delve into the intricacies of leadership trauma. They discuss the emotional burdens leaders face and the importance of spiritual discernment in navigating these challenges. Listeners are introduced to concepts like big-T and small-t trauma, gospel-centered conflict resolution, and practical steps for healing and racial reconciliation, offering hope and tools for transformative leadership.

In a captivating conversation, Dave Ripper, lead pastor of Crossway Christian Church and author of ‘Experiencing Scripture as a Disciple of Jesus,’ shares insights about spiritual formation and the power of engaging with Scripture. He discusses Dallas Willard’s approach to reading the Bible, emphasizing transformative encounters with God through personal stories. Ripper also highlights the importance of nurturing faith within families and the value of childlike trust and openness. Listeners will find practical methods for deepening their spiritual reflection and connection.

Host: Steve Macchia, Guest: Suz Skinner “Our prayer is that our eyes will be open, our ears will be attentive, and our hearts will receive the gift of the parables of Jesus.” - Steve Macchia  Season 36 begins with a conversation between Steve Macchia and Suz Skinner. They share about their soon-to-release book, Praying the Parables of Jesus, an immersive encounter with the teachings of Jesus. Using the spiritual practices of Lectio and Visio Divina, readers can connect more deeply with the teachings of Jesus as they prayerfully discern God’s invitation in the parables.   Join the conversation about spiritual discernment as a way of life at www.LeadershipTransformations.org and consider participation in our online and in-person program offerings. Additional LTI spiritual formation resources can be found at www.SpiritualFormationStore.com and www.ruleoflife.com and www.healthychurch.net.

Host: Steve Macchia, Guest: Gordon Macdonald  This episode originally aired on May 5, 2022 as Episode 6 of Season 18  “Expect to reorganize your interior life every 7-10 years.” –Gordon MacDonald  Gordon Macdonald joins Steve Macchia again for the conclusion of this 2-part conversation around his book “The View from Eighty.” Sharing the final 8 insights that make for success or failure in ministry, this REWIND episode will encourage you to live modestly, remain humble and devote time to building and reorganizing your interior life.  Join the conversation about spiritual discernment as a way of life at www.LeadershipTransformations.org and consider participation in our online and in-person program offerings. Additional LTI spiritual formation resources can be found at www.SpiritualFormationStore.com and www.ruleoflife.com and www.healthychurch.net.

Host: Steve Macchia, Guest: Gordon Macdonald  This episode originally aired on April 28, 2022 as Episode 5 of Season 18  “Your number one priority in the Lord’s work is your family.” –Gordon MacDonald  Gordon Macdonald joins Steve Macchia for the first of two conversations, drawing from his book “The View from Eighty.” A summary of 15 things that make for success or failure in ministry, Gordon and Steve explore the first 7 insights that come from 6 decades of ministry experience. This REWIND episode will encourage you to prioritize your most important relationships and maintain a healthy spiritual life.   Join the conversation about spiritual discernment as a way of life at www.LeadershipTransformations.org and consider participation in our online and in-person program offerings. Additional LTI spiritual formation resources can be found at www.SpiritualFormationStore.com and www.ruleoflife.com and www.healthychurch.net.

Host: Steve Macchia, Guest: Eric Peterson  This episode originally aired on April 7, 2022 as Episode 2 of Season 18  “God is in everything, in all the details of life, and not just the pleasant ones.” – Eric Peterson  In this REWIND episode, Eric Peterson joins Steve Macchia to reflect upon the luminous trail of spiritual discernment. Using the metaphors of mountain climbing and hiking, Eric and Steve explore how spiritual friendships are like headlamps that shine on the pathway of life. Tune into this rich conversation between Eric and Steve as they offer insights around how each of us can live a life of illumination and spiritual discernment.  Join the conversation about spiritual discernment as a way of life at www.LeadershipTransformations.org and consider participation in our online and in-person program offerings. Additional LTI spiritual formation resources can be found at www.SpiritualFormationStore.com and www.ruleoflife.com and www.healthychurch.net.

Host: Steve Macchia, Guest: Carolyn Arends  This episode originally aired on October 13, 2022 as Episode 2 of Season 22  “The promise we always have is not no pain – it’s no wasted pain. There’s nothing that He can’t redeem.” – Carolyn Arends  Carolyn Arends joins Steve Macchia to share watershed moments of her life story. Highlighting several major turning points and milestones, she offers personal anecdotes on how to cultivate a discerning life. In this REWIND episode, Carolyn shares how the formation required to cultivate a life of discernment is similar to that which makes a great writer or artist.  Join the conversation about spiritual discernment as a way of life at www.LeadershipTransformations.org and consider participation in our online and in-person program offerings. Additional LTI spiritual formation resources can be found at www.SpiritualFormationStore.com and www.ruleoflife.com and www.healthychurch.net.  

Host: Steve Macchia, Guests: Bill and Kristi Gaultiere  This episode originally aired on November 10, 2022 as Episode 6 of Season 22  “Ohh, I need to do some more inner journey work. This is an invitation.” –Kristi Gaultiere  Bill and Kristi Gaultiere join Steve for a rich conversation about spiritual practices, discernment and soul care. In their book Journey of the Soul, they reflect on more than 70,000 hours of therapy and spiritual direction with people. In this REWIND episode of The Discerning Leader podcast, Bill and Kristi share six stages of spiritual growth and different walls that we experience. These walls start as periods of disorientation but become transition times to a more Christ-centered way of being. Listen as they share personal stories and offer a map to help every person through their own journey of the soul.  Join the conversation about spiritual discernment as a way of life at www.LeadershipTransformations.org and consider participation in our online and in-person program offerings. Additional LTI spiritual formation resources can be found at www.SpiritualFormationStore.com and www.ruleoflife.com and www.healthychurch.net.

Host: Steve Macchia, Guest: James Bryan Smith  This episode originally aired on November 3, 2022 as Episode 5 of Season 22  “Every need that my soul has, Jesus meets them – every single one of them.” – James Bryan Smith  James Bryan Smith joins Steve for a conversation about how our view of God transforms our understanding and experience of spiritual disciplines. In this REWIND episode of The Discerning Leader podcast, James explores the harm of having a legalistic approach to spiritual practices and a toxic view of God. On the other hand, a right perspective of the spiritual disciplines offers us the gift of intimacy with God.   Join the conversation about spiritual discernment as a way of life at www.LeadershipTransformations.org and consider participation in our online and in-person program offerings. Additional LTI spiritual formation resources can be found at www.SpiritualFormationStore.com and www.ruleoflife.com and www.healthychurch.net.

Host: Steve Macchia, Guest: Nathan Foster  This episode originally aired on April 14, 2022 as Episode 3 of Season 18  “The Jesus way is clear: hang out with 12 nobodies and then give them the keys.” –Nathan Foster  Nate Foster joins Steve Macchia for a conversation about our awareness of God and quiet reflection. In this REWIND episode, Nate invites us to consider how God often fills in the gaps after times of quiet discernment and prayer. Viewing spiritual practices as what we do in the ordinary parts of life, this conversation welcomes us to experience renewed joy in the wonderfully ordinary, and grace-filled moments of life.   Join the conversation about spiritual discernment as a way of life at www.LeadershipTransformations.org and consider participation in our online and in-person program offerings. Additional LTI spiritual formation resources can be found at www.SpiritualFormationStore.com and www.ruleoflife.com and www.healthychurch.net.