Modest Conversations - The Information
Sam Lessin
The Information presents Modest Conversations hosted by Sam Lessin, who writes the site's regular 'Modest Conversations' column. Modest Conversations are short conversations with interesting people about technology, culture, politics, and whatever else strikes our fancy.
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Feb 10, 2019 • 31min
On Income Sharing Agreements with Erik Torenberg
Sam and Erik discuss ISAs / and the future of equity investing in people / personal income vs. debt financing.

Nov 19, 2017 • 1h 4min
30 - Runaway Objective Functions & Human Agency - Tim O’Reilly
Tim and I discuss some of the thinking around his new book WTF - What’s The Future and Why It’s Up To Us. We talk in particular about our world of runaway objective functions, and the role human agency must play to manage to a future we want vs. one we do not.

Nov 5, 2017 • 56min
29 - Attention and Addiction & What To Actually Do About It - Tristan Harris Fmr. Google
Tristan Harris, former Google design ethicist and critic of the attention economy, discusses modern persuasive design and digital addiction. He explains how immersion, social persuasion, AI personalization, and device defaults amplify attention capture. They explore harms to shared reality, risks for kids, and bold fixes like attention taxes, humane defaults, and conversational interfaces.

Oct 30, 2017 • 21min
28 - Lines - Waiting For Work To Be Done & Work To Do - Andrew Kortina co-founder Fin & Venmo
Kortina and I discuss how much of modern life is about lines.
As consumers we wait on line for restaurants, takeoff windows, and countless other experiences. As producers many of us - not just ER doctors - spend a good percentage of our 'working' time waiting for work to do and under-utilized.
We discuss how technology and technology design is impacted by and impacts the nature of lines and waiting on them for producers and consumers.

Oct 15, 2017 • 50min
27 - The Human Side of Tech & Growth Mindset - Blake Barnes Director of Product at Instagram
Blake joins to discuss the human side of technology - growth mindset, failure, and success. How do the people who build technology, and the ways they collaborate on teams, and the culture of tech companies define the products that come out?

Oct 8, 2017 • 33min
26 - Homo Deus in Short - Erik Torenberg, ProductHunt & co-founder Village Global VC
Erik and I discuss the ins-and-outs of Homo Deus, which has become extremely popular in Silicon Valley. What is the thesis? What is the appeal? What makes sense and what is a stretch?

Oct 1, 2017 • 41min
25 - Making of the Tree of Ténéré at Burning Man - Zach Smith, Founder of The Project
Zach Smith joins for a Modest Conversation on the making of the Tree of Ténéré at Burning Man. Where the project came from, trials and travails of getting it done, and thoughts on doing large scale art projects at Burning Man

Sep 18, 2017 • 31min
24 - The Golden Age of Oncology - Racquel Bracken of Venrock
Racquel joins to talk about all that is changing in the world of oncology, and why she things we are entering the golden age of oncology.

Sep 10, 2017 • 33min
23 - The Environment - Alyssa Ravasio of Hipcamp
Alyssa joins for a modest conversation about technology is changing how we relate to nature, the environment, climate change, extinction, and more.

Aug 6, 2017 • 33min
22 - On Bitcoin Cash & New Ways Crypto-Projects Move Forward - Alexia Bonatsos - Fmr Techcrunch
Alexia and I discuss the last week in Crypto and Bitcoin Cash. What does it look like when there is a pattern for faster innovation without 'consensus' in the cyrpto world? How does it change the power and importance of exchanges?


