

Dialogues: The David Zwirner Podcast
David Zwirner
What we talk about when we talk about art. Exceptional makers and thinkers across art, literature, film, fashion, music, and more come together to talk about what it means to make things today.
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Mar 25, 2020 • 47min
Episode 17 | Mamma Andersson and Jockum Nordström
A rare conversation between artists who have stayed together for over three decades. The Swedish artist Karin “Mamma” Andersson and her husband Jockum Nordström’s story—of two young artists leaning on each other as their family grew; of uncertainty and insecurity and figuring out how to be different but together; of the pleasure of getting completely lost in one’s work—feels especially potent in these uncertain times.Andersson’s recent exhibition at David Zwirner’s New York gallery, The Lost Paradise, was cut short due to the escalating spread of COVID-19, but you can explore the show here.

Mar 19, 2020 • 30min
Jeff Koons Redux
In uncertain and even scary times, host Lucas Zwirner revisits the first episode of Dialogues, in which Jeff Koons and the curator Luke Syson turn to art as a way of connecting and communicating through making something—an ethos that feels even more important now. Soon Dialogues will return with even more episodes to stay in touch with our audience. Stay tuned for much more.

Feb 26, 2020 • 29min
Episode 16 | Doug Wheeler and Vija Celmins
In this episode, the artists Doug Wheeler and Vija Celmins revisit their years in Venice Beach, California in the late 1960s, a scene crowded with figures like Charles Bukowski, Allen Ginsberg, Robert Irwin, and James Turrell. Wheeler and Celmins—old friends and visionaries of their medium—gossip, rehash, map, and even correct this vital piece of art history, while tackling a central question of art along the way: How to impress your sensibility upon the world through your work.Vija Celmins was the subject of a recent, critically-beloved retrospective at the Met Breuer and SFMOMA. Doug Wheeler currently has an exhibition at David Zwirner in New York through March 21, 2020; a definitive monograph of his career was recently published.

Feb 19, 2020 • 29sec
Dialogues Trailer
Dialogues is a podcast from David Zwirner Gallery and has included guests like Doug Wheeler, Vija Celmins, Tyler Mitchell, Helen Molesworth, Kahlil Joseph, R. Crumb, and Luc Tuymans.

Dec 12, 2019 • 35min
Episode 15 | Thom Browne and Michael Glover
The designer Thom Browne and the poet and critic Michael Glover talk about the history of the codpiece in art. Glover has written a book (Thrust) on the topic and Browne's collections often include codpieces.Show Notes:
Thom Browne
Thrust: A Spasmodic Pictorial History of the Codpiece in Art (Michael Glover, David Zwirner Books)
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Dec 4, 2019 • 34min
Episode 14 | Eileen Myles and Flavin Judd
Eileen Myles talks to Flavin Judd about Marfa past and present, a "mammoth" new novel, and Donald Judd's life and work.Show Notes
Donald Judd Interviews (David Zwirner Books, 2019, edited by Flavin Judd and Caitlin Murray)
"MoMA Announces Donald Judd Retrospective" (March 1 -July 11, 2020 at the Museum of Modern Art)
Judd Foundation

Nov 20, 2019 • 35min
Episode 13 | Oscar Murillo and Charles Henry Rowell
This episode pairs artist Oscar Murillo with the editor Charles Henry Rowell for a conversation about class, race, art, and the African cultural diaspora that is one part history lesson and one part personal history. Murillo is short-listed for the 2019 Turner Prize and Rowell is the founder and editor of Callalloo, the longest continuously running African-American literary journal. The Turner Prize exhibition runs through January 12, 2020, at Turner Contemporary in Margate, UK. (The winner will be announced on December 3.) Read more about Callaloo here.

Nov 7, 2019 • 23min
Episode 12 | The Yayoi Kusama Phenomenon
This episode is all about Yayoi Kusama and art in the Instagram age. JiaJia Fei, a digital guru for institutions like the Jewish Museum and the Guggenheim, and Christian Luiten, founder of the popular digital art platform Avant Arte, come together to talk authenticity vs. influence, high vs. low, art vs. accessibility, narrative vs. myth—and to diagnose the unabating online fanaticism for all things Kusama, an Instagram icon who isn’t on Instagram.

Oct 23, 2019 • 25min
Episode 11 | Chris Ofili and Emily Wilson
An epic live episode of Dialogues. In journeying deep into Homer’s Odyssey in front of an audience at David Zwirner’s 69th Street gallery in New York, artist Chris Ofili and classicist Emily Wilson encounter religion, art, personal history, gender issues, Trinidad, Greece, truth, lies. Featuring a live reading from Wilson, the first woman to translate The Odyssey into English and a 2019 MacArthur Fellow

Oct 9, 2019 • 46min
Episode 10 | Alex Da Corte and Charlie Fox
When the artist Alex Da Corte and the writer Charlie Fox talk about Edward Scissorhands, Frankenstein, Hercules, Michael Myers, A Clockwork Orange, Scar from The Lion King, they’re also talking about beauty and body anxiety and disability and sexual attraction and queerness—the anxieties of existing physically in the world every day. Da Corte, whose elaborate videos, sculptures, and installations critically re-stage pop culture, art history, and his own life, and Fox, whose recent book This Young Monster celebrates beautiful misfits and freaks across all walks of culture, go deep on how they live—in their minds and in their work—far from what they call normative behavior. Visit Da Corte’s solo exhibition in New York at Karma through November 3 and his work at the Venice Biennale through November 24, in the main exhibition May You Live in Interesting Times. Buy Fox’s book This Young Monster here.


