
Dialogues: The David Zwirner Podcast
What we talk about when we talk about art. Exceptional makers and thinkers across art, literature, film, fashion, music, and more come together to talk about what it means to make things today.
Latest episodes

Mar 15, 2023 • 50min
Episode 55 | Nicholson Baker
Helen talks to writer Nicholson Baker about how history is written, and the continued relevance of his World War II book Human Smoke (2008). Baker is the author of numerous books, including Vox (1992) and The Mezzanine (1988) and was the recipient of the National Book Critics Circle Award in 2001.

Mar 8, 2023 • 47min
Rirkrit Tiravanija and Elizabeth Peyton (Re-run from Season 6)
We revisit one of the most popular episodes of Season 6, a conversation with the artists Rirkrit Tiravanija and Elizabeth Petyon, on the occasion of their recently announced solo debuts with the gallery. Rirkrit’s show The Shop opens at David Zwirner Hong Kong March 20th, 2023, and Elizabeth’s show Angel opens at David Zwirner London on June 7th, 2023

Mar 1, 2023 • 43min
Episode 54 | Jonathan Anderson
Creative Director of LOEWE and founder of JW Anderson, Jonathan Anderson, speaks with Helen about his innovative approach to fashion, from collections that are equal parts cultural commentary and artistic play, to pushing gender boundaries and materiality, to redefining the word “luxury.” Jonathan and Helen sit down to break open the divisions between craft and art, creation and appropriation, and high and low culture.

Feb 22, 2023 • 46min
Episode 53 | Cecilia Alemani
A post-mortem on the 59th Venice Biennale, The Milk of Dreams, with curator Cecilia Alemani. Cecilia and Helen Molesworth discuss the unique challenges of mounting an exhibition at scale in the COVID era and what it was like being the first Italian woman to curate a Biennale.

Feb 15, 2023 • 44min
Episode 52 | Sarah Schulman
The novelist, playwright, activist, and AIDS historian Sarah Schulman discusses her most recent book, Let the Record Show, A Political History of ACT UP New York [1987-1993], a landmark document of the activist response to the AIDS crisis. Schulman describes the triumphs, challenges, and simultaneous histories of ACT UP, and what they teach us about movements in general.

Feb 8, 2023 • 31min
Episode 51 | Jon Gray (Ghetto Gastro)
Jon Gray, co-founder of the Bronx-based collective Ghetto Gastro, talks to Helen Molesworth about the collective’s work at the intersection of the culinary world, hip-hop, fashion, art, activism, and community building.

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Feb 1, 2023 • 43min
Episode 50 | Why You Do What You Do with Brendan Dugan, Johanna Fateman and Ebony L. Haynes
Host Helen Molesworth calls art writer Johanna Fateman (Le Tigre), gallerist Brendan Dugan (Karma Gallery) and the curator,and writer Ebony L. Haynes (Senior Director of 52 Walker) to discuss how they carved their unique paths in the art world and what continues to inspire them.

Jan 25, 2023 • 46min
Episode 49 | Luca Guadagnino and Michaël Borremans
A conversation between the Academy award-nominated writer, producer, and director Luca Guadagnino and the Belgian painter Michaël Borremans on the relationship between painting and film. They muse on the specificity of light to their mediums, the role of the uncanny, and paintings and films as a mirror of who we imagine ourselves to be.Guadagnino’s most recent film Bones and All debuted to critical acclaim last Fall. Michaël Borremans held his seventh solo exhibition at David Zwirner, The Acrobat, in Spring of 2022.

Dec 14, 2022 • 52min
Best of 2022 | With Helen Molesworth
As we close out the year, Helen calls up her dear friend Steve Locke to carry on the tried and true tradition of end-of-year lists. It turns out there was a lot to love in 2022.Mentions: -Lynne Tillman, Mothercare -Craig Drennen at Freight and Volume-Marlene Dumas at the Palazzo Grassi in Venice -Bob Thompson at Colby College and the Hammer Museum-Milk of Dreams (Venice Biennale)-Mira Schor's instagram account-Ruth Erickson’s A Place for Me at the ICA Boston-Cauleen Smith at Moran Moran gallery in LA

Dec 7, 2022 • 36min
What Does Art Have to Do with Climate Change? | With Helen Molesworth
In this episode, Helen Molesworth calls an old friend, the painter Alexis Rockman, to try and understand the art world’s reaction to recent acts of museum vandalism perpetrated by Just Stop Oil, putting them in context with theories on environmental activism and the harsh reality of the climate crisis. Alexis Rockman is a painter whose realist landscapes imagine the future effects of the anthropocene on the natural world, and was one of the first artists to investigate global warming in his work.Stay tuned for Helen’s next episode, which takes stock of the very best art exhibitions of 2022.Mentions:-Just Stop Oil on Instagram-Climate Emergency Fund-Alexis Rockman, Manifest Destiny in the Smithsonian Museum -Reluctant Radical by Ken Ward