

Dialogues: The David Zwirner Podcast
David Zwirner
What we talk about when we talk about art. Exceptional makers and thinkers across art, literature, film, fashion, music, and more come together to talk about what it means to make things today.
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Mar 26, 2025 • 26min
Candy Darling, More Than a Warhol Superstar
A revealing look into the real life behind the icon and Warhol Superstar Candy Darling. Cynthia Carr, author of the acclaimed Fire in the Belly: The Life and Times of David Wojnarowicz discusses her newest biography: Candy Darling: Dreamer, Icon, Superstar. Carr is joined by MacArthur Fellow, singer-songwriter, and actor Vivian Bond, who narrated the audiobook.Cynthia Carr is a New York-based writer and author of Fire in the Belly: The Life and Times of David Wojnarowicz and Candy Darling: Dreamer, Icon, Superstar. Vivian Bond is the recipient of an Obie, a Bessie, The Lambda Literary award for best transgender non-fiction for their memoir “Tango: My Childhood Backwards and in High Heels,” a Tony nomination for “Kiki and Herb: Alive on Broadway,”and was recently awarded a 2024 MacArthur Fellowship. Bond has a series of upcoming shows May 6-11 at Joe’s Pub.

Mar 19, 2025 • 26min
The Untold Story of Black Mountain College
The history of a radical cooperative farm at Black Mountain College that defined both daily life and pedagogy at the birthplace of American art education. David Silver, an expert on the farm at Black Mountain college, tells the story of how Black Mountain students collaborated in order to survive. David Silver is a professor of environmental studies and urban agriculture at the University of San Francisco and the author of the newly released book, The Farm at Black Mountain College.

Mar 11, 2025 • 48min
Anni Albers: Her Life, Her Work, Her Words
Helen Molesworth explores the life and work of Anni Albers in the artist’s own words, with rare archival interviews with Albers and insights from artists Kristine Woods and Diedrick Bracken and art historian Julia Bryan-Wilson. Affinities: Anni Albers, Josef Albers, Paul Klee, a group show curated by Nicholas Fox Weber, director of the Josef and Anni Albers Foundation, will be on view at David Zwirner 20th street gallery in New York from March 13–April 19. Weber is also the author of a biography on Anni Albers, forthcoming from Yale University Press in early 2026.Kirstine Woods is an artist based in Brooklyn and professor at the Maryland Institute College of Art.Diedrick Brackens is an artist based in Los Angeles, known for his woven tapestries that explore allegory and narrative through the artist’s autobiography, broader themes of African American and queer identity, and American history.Julia Bryan-Wilson is Professor of Art History and LGBTQ Studies at Columbia University. She is organizing an exhibition called GUTSY: On Feminist Infrastructure that will open in November 2025 at the Museum of Modern Art, Warsaw, Poland.

Mar 5, 2025 • 39min
From DAS MINSK: The Sound of Noah Davis
A conversation about the late artist Noah Davis, the sounds he left behind, and the ones he imagined.
Join podcaster and curator Helen Molesworth, professor and writer Tina M. Campt, pianist and artist Jason Moran, and director and curator Paola Malavassi for a mix of sound, music, and ideas inspired by Davis’s paintings.
The Sound of Noah Davis was commissioned by DAS MINSK Kunsthaus in Potsdam and produced by Besyv and FilmTone on the occasion of the exhibition Noah Davis. Special thanks to Karon Davis and the Estate of Noah Davis.
The exhibition Noah Davis, originally on view at DAS MINSK, Potsdam in Fall 2024, is currently on view at the Hammer Museum, Los Angeles.
Credits:
With: Helen Molesworth, Tina M. Campt, Jason Moran, and Paola Malavassi
A podcast commissioned by DAS MINSK Kunsthaus in Potsdam on the occasion of the exhibition Noah Davis, 2024–25
Idea: Paola Malavassi and Helen Molesworth
Production: Besyv and FilmTone, Denmark
Producer: Mathilde Schytz Marvit
Interviews: Mathilde Schytz Marvit, Alexandra Kristjansen, and Bobby Salomon Hess
Editor: Alexandra Kristjansen
Sound Design: Bobby Salomon Hess
Music: Sofia Rønde Storck, Jonas Yagoubi, and Laurits Quist Bilén
Archival Audio: Noah Davis, lecture at the Corcoran School of the Arts and Design, 2011
Piano: Jason Moran live in his studio
Thanks to: Karon Davis and the Estate of Noah Davis

Feb 26, 2025 • 45min
The Art of Rivalry with Wesley Morris
Pulitzer Prize-winning New York Times critic Wesley Morris comes on the podcast to unpack the long history and current state of artistic rivalries, from Leonardo daVinci and Michelangelo to Drake and Kendrick Lamar.

Feb 19, 2025 • 38min
The Unconstitutional War on Trans People
Helen Molesworth hosts a special episode, starting with a conversation with leading ACLU lawyer Chase Strangio and followed by an interview with artist Laurie Simmons and activist Maryhope Howland.Chase Strangio is the Co-Director of the LGBTQ & HIV Project at the American Civil Liberties Union (ACLU). Laurie Simmons is an artist and filmmaker who lives and works in Connecticut and New York City and a member of Families United for Trans Rights.Maryhope Howland is a social psychologist, design researcher, and co-founder of Families United for Trans Rights.Families United for Trans Rights (FUTR, www.ourfutr.org) is a volunteer-run organization dedicated to securing the rights of trans Americans.

Dec 18, 2024 • 41min
The Best Art Exhibitions of The Century (So Far) | with Steve Locke
As we turn the page on a quarter century, Helen Molesworth and the artist Steve Locke look back with a highly opinionated list of their favorite art shows of the last 25 years.

Dec 4, 2024 • 47min
Has Contemporary Art Lost Its Edge? | With Dean Kissick
Helen Molesworth speaks to Dean Kissick, author of The Painted Protest, a polemic piece on the state of contemporary art in this month’s Harper’s Magazine that has had a lot in the art world talking.Dean Kissick is a writer, contributing editor of Spike Art Magazine, and a director of Earth.

Nov 21, 2024 • 57min
Special Episode | On Richard Serra with Hal Foster
Art historian and critic Hal Foster joins Helen for a live conversation on Richard Serra (1938–2024) at David Zwirner New York. They discuss Foster’s decades-long engagement with Serra’s work and the artist’s enduring legacy.This conversation was taped in Every Which Way, a major Richard Serra installation from 2015, on view at David Zwirner’s 20th Street gallery in New York from November 8–December 14, 2024.

Nov 15, 2024 • 46min
Re-release | Luc Tuymans and Timothy Snyder
We revisit an episode from Season 5, a conversation between artist Luc Tuymans and the eminent Yale Historian Timothy Snyder. The two discuss history, truth, and lies, and art’s singular ability to live between them all. Timothy Snyder is the author of the books On Tyranny and The Road to Unfreedom, among others, and Luc Tuymans is an artist who has been interrogating the power of images for decades. Tuymans is also the subject of a major solo retrospective, called The Past, on view at the UCCA Center for Contemporary Art in Beijing through February 16, 2025.


