

Catching Foxes
Luke and Gomer
Luke and Gomer became friends Freshman year at the Franciscan University of Steubenville and 14 years later they started a podcast. The show oscillates between a conversation between just the two of us and interviews that we do together of other, fancier people. Sometimes we get explicit either by being too honest or by being too stupid. Either way, it's fun!
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Oct 14, 2016 • 1h 29min
Episode 64: 64 Believe the Victim with Emily Navarro
Our first family member on the show, Luke's sister Emily shares the pain, embarrassment, and isolation from being a victim of sexual assault. She shares with us the struggle of being ignored or blamed instead of loved. She also shares how this crap is still going on in her life with a previous employer at a billion dollar company.Also, every time Luke and Emily walk down memory lane, I play "The Girl from Ipanema" elevator song. So yeah, you're going to love that song by the end of the show.Finally, Trumps comments from 11 years ago are disgusting, but what is even more disgusting is the way people are defending those comments. I have to delete my Facebook account. This is too much. And yes, I'm a bear.
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Oct 7, 2016 • 1h 23min
Episode 63: 63 Under the Table with a Syro-Phoenician Woman
We are the Syro-Phoenician Woman. You are the scraps that fall from the Master's table. Wait. This sounded better in my head a minute ago. In this episode we talk COMMUNITY GROUPS! ...or Life Groups... or Cell Groups, or House Church Groups, or Small Faith Groups, or 242 Groups or Connect Groups or Discipleship Groups or ...whatever.Then Gomer tells Luke he is done with his need for approval from people at the parish. He's ready to take it to the next level, job be damned! (but pleeeease don't let it be damned! I love working there.)
session one// The Gospel.pdf
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Sep 30, 2016 • 1h 30min
Episode 62: 62 Exacerbating Angels with Jackie and Bobby
This is a fun episode with two moderately decent people. Jackie is a famous Catholic musician and speaker, who performs for groups large and small. Bobby is a Catholic School teacher, a bearded gentleman, and a lover of Mumford and Sons. This episode is light-hearted, except that Gomer drank a few beers and started dominating the conversation.
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Sep 23, 2016 • 1h 6min
Episode 61: 61 Sexual Addiction with Joey Joe Joe Shabadoo
Sexual addiction is more than just the acting out, yet we tend to focus almost exclusively on the external results of an internal wound (or wounds). Like many people who talk about their sexual addiction, such as Audrey Assad, a lot of this starts with family of origin issues. The man we interview, whom we respectfully call Joey Joe Joe Shabadoo, started attending Sex Addicts Anonymous when he was 19 years old. He was living a double life and hated it: giving a theology of the body talk in the evening, and then meeting strangers for sexual hookups in dangerous places. This is a powerful interview.
Before coming to Sex Addicts Anonymous, many of us never knew that our problem had a name. All we knew was that we couldn’t control our sexual behavior. For us, sex was a consuming way of life. Although the details of our stories were different, our problem was the same. We were addicted to sexual behaviors that we returned to over and over, despite the consequences.
— Sex Addicts Anonymous, p. 3
John Paul II Healing CenterTheology of the Body InstituteIs SAA right for you? Do you have a Sexual Addiction?
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Sep 17, 2016 • 1h 11min
Episode 60: 60 #This Catfish Girl
Catholic Twitter was delivered a crushing blow by one of its own members. Turns out, dozens of people, especially a college student and author named Chad, were catfished, which means essentially that you form a relationship with someone via social media and the whole time they are only pretending to be that person. (Here's an actual Catholic News Agency article on it.)Luke finds it hilarious. I do too, but only because I wasn't involved and am not really a part of Catholic Twitter, being too busy watching the Apple Keynote a few dozen times. But Luke masterfully connects this incident of catfishing to a wider issue, the ANIMA TECHNICA VACUA.Also, Luke is annoyed somewhat that people are taking this waaaay too seriously. For example: "As I consider ThisCatholicGirl in light of Exaltation of the Holy Cross, I am going to be honest—this is a conversation I am hesitant to have, because behind the public personas of the handle and Chase’s blog," (Marina Olson, Patheos Eating Peaches blog, emphasis mine)Also, there some South Park references and a whole slew of "tiny penis" jokes, but I can neither confirm nor deny their validity.Finally, Matt Fradd is apparently catfishing all of us. The real person behind the mask? An actual catfish named Whiskers. Also, buy his book, Pints with Aquinas. Also, OUR APOLOGIES TO RAYMOND ARROYO FOR THE INCORRECT INSINUATION.
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Sep 9, 2016 • 1h 22min
Episode 59: 59 You Keep Using That Word with Everett Fritz
Everett Fritz likes to lob grenades at our presuppositions regarding large group ministry. He took a long, hard look at his youth group and realized only 10% or less were actually following Jesus Christ. Those that were following Christ were not just youth group attendees, but also personally mentored by him or others. That's when he realized discipleship isn't a program or an event. It's getting involved in people's lives and letting them get involved in yours on a personal level. And that cannot be done for the crowds.Discipleship matters. He even wrote a book about breaking free from pornography through his discipleship approach. His book Freedom: Battle Strategies for Conquering Temptation looks at victory over porn and masturbation addiction through the lens of following Christ. It's written for men because those are the people he mentors.This episode has some controversial stuff born out of a frustrations and also out of love. Just give it a listen, take a breath, and snag whatever insight you can. Also be on the lookout for his next book on discipleship in Catholic youth ministry, which should be out by November.Then there is this... The Big M by Lust Control Support Catching Foxes

Sep 2, 2016 • 1h 1min
Episode 58: 58 The Return of 10 Minute Topics!
So the regular host, Matt Fradd, couldn't be here today. So we had to drag Luke back out from the freezer, thaw him out, and unleash him on AMERICA'S FAVORITE PODCAST THEME: 10 MINUTE TOPICS!And we don't really stay to 10 minutes on any of them.Thanks to BenSound.com for the show music. Also, thanks to YouTube for letting me fair use the crap out of the Stranger Things Main Title song!
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Aug 29, 2016 • 54min
Episode 57: 57 Don't Be A Jerk with Matt Fradd
Gomer gets to interview Matt Fradd, America's Favorite Austrailian, for the show. I thought we would talk about his amazing new book, Pints With Aquinas: 50+ Deep Thoughts from the Angelic Doctor, the entire time, but it turns out he wanted to talk about how to argue philosophically without being a jerk. Only slightly choice language in this episode.http://mattfradd.com/http://theporneffect.com/http://integrityrestored.com/PINTS WITH AQUINASPints with Aquinas the book: http://amzn.to/2ckAuoVPints with Aquinas the podcast: http://mattfradd.com/new-book/pints-with-aquinas/
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Aug 19, 2016 • 1h 13min
Episode 56: 56 The NewlyWed Game Show
Americans divorce most often at 18 months and at 8 years. Luke is coming up on 18 months and I just rounded by 7th year, so we take stock and reflect on our marriages. WARNING: sexy questions and occasional sexy answer ahead. Please do not listen in the presence of a minor, the elderly, and without a glass of alcohol in your hands!
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Aug 12, 2016 • 59min
Episode 55: 55 Thank You. Smiley Face. with Fr James Martin
The editor-at-large for America Magazine and author of numerous books on the faith, we interview Fr James Martin, SJ. From corporation living to Jesuit Order, he tells us why he left the world of finance for p;overty, chastity and obedience. We also dives into what the 12 years of Jesuit formation is like, which is crazy fascinating and sounds exhausting.Then we break into the topic of Pope Francis. We talk about his Jesuitness, what it did for the Jesuits internally, and his relationship to the last two popes. This leads us into a great discussion of a common theme here on Catching Foxes: the division of Catholics into Conservative and Progressive, Right and Left, blah blah blah.Finally, we talk about haters on Twitter who call him a heretic for his more controversial tweets, and how he deals with it. ("I can't come to Compline, there's someone wrong on the Internet!")
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Where you can find him onlinehttps://twitter.com/JamesMartinSJhttps://www.facebook.com/FrJamesMartinhttp://jamesmartin.hc.com/Some Books of his that we mention...Jesus: A PilgrimageMy Life with the SaintsIn Good Company: The Fast Track from the Corporate World to Poverty, Chastity, and ObedienceLourdes DiaryThis Our ExileSupport Catching Foxes


